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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 02:35 PM
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Edwards campaign manager David Bonior: "NAFTA worst decision of Clinton administration"
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 02:43 PM
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1. probably true. But someone should remind David Bonior..
1. Bill Clinton isn't running for president and, as people on DU who despise Hillary often say, Hillary ain't Bill.

2. Hillary has distanced herself from NAFTA and didn't support CAFTA:

http://nymag.com/news/politics/powergrid/34457/
http://www.truthabouttrade.org/article.asp?id=7777

3. In 2004, John Edwards would not advocate scraping NAFTA, but wanted to "fix" it.

4. In 1998, while running for Senate, Edwards would not debate NAFTA.
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 04:12 PM
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11. Hillary favors oursourcing good paying jobs to India and elsewhere
She didn't vote for CAFTA because she knew it would kill her in the Dem primary, not out of principle.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:46 PM
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17. So does the guy in your avatar... Howard Dean... must be official DNC policy
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jcrew2001 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:26 PM
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14. Hillary only wants Bill's good qualities but not the bad ones
But Hillary can't stand on one leg without Bill's help. Without Bill, she's nothing, just another liberal northern senator.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:47 PM
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18. and what does this have to do with Edwards?
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 02:53 PM
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2. Permanent "Free" Trade With China Was Worse
Edited on Tue Jul-24-07 03:04 PM by MannyGoldstein
Which Mr. Clinton drove through, Mrs. Clinton cheer-led, and Edwards voted for.
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corkhead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 03:17 PM
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3. I'll say one of the worst. I think the fairness doctorine bit the dust under his presidency as well
if we had responsible journalism, we might never have seen nafta
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Zodiak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 03:19 PM
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4. It was the Telecommunications Act of 1996
The Fairness Doctrine took a tanking during the Reagan administration. Put together, we have the vapid morass of propaganda, ommission, and made-up faces that we call the news media, now.

I agree, though....the loss of the media is probably his biggest mistake. The others are far more fixable than a lack of basic information to keep this demcoracy healthy enough to make good decisions.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 03:25 PM
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6. Why can't the public sue over the Telecommunications Act?
If I remember correctly, they claimed that it would expand our options because it would open up the field for cyber optics, but the fly in the ointment was that few companies actually built the infrastructure needed to improve the options?

Anyone have better info on the failures and success of the Act?
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 04:08 PM
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8. I also felt that the Telecomm Act should have been vetoed too!
But there was a lot of big money behind it. Only a few senators voted against it (Leahy, Feingold, Simon, McCain, and Wellstone). Where's Paul Wellstone when we need him now! :(
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:30 PM
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15. I believe the Welfare Reform Act was the "worst decision of Clinton administration".
Edited on Tue Jul-24-07 09:32 PM by GreenTea
That hurt and is still hurting many people, most of them children.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 01:25 AM
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20. Welfare act was very damaging, but Telecomm act is making it VERY hard to fix things now!
With the media so aligned against us, it is hurting us in so many areas now and preventing us from doing things like impeachment, addressing global warming, winning elections, election fraud reform, public campaign financing, etc.

Welfare Reform Act can be repaired later. With the media with so much control now, it will be VERY hard to repair that any time soon!
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Cookie wookie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 02:55 AM
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22. Agree too. That was a huge blunder. Don't even think the
impeachment debacle could have happened if he hadn't signed the Telecommunications Act.

We must free the media -- after all, it belongs to the American people not the corporations, even though the Republicans on the FCC have acted as if it belongs to the corps.
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ToeBot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 03:21 PM
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5. Followed closely by the DMCA and then Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Act. nt
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 03:28 PM
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7. I find it puzzling---Globalization and Trade Policy absent
from Debates. These issues affect all other issues--I would
say, Globalizataion and Trade will have profound effects
on the future of America. Yet, no discussion.
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cascadiance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 04:10 PM
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10. I might have missed threads on this topic, but where was the impeachment question?
Edited on Tue Jul-24-07 04:11 PM by calipendence
I didn't get a chance to watch the debates, but someone told me that this question wasn't asked, but those looking at the YouTube polls were noting that the impeachment question was one of two top vote getting questions. That would have been a good question to have answered and it seems like the polls said that was one that most people wanted to hear an answer to.
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 04:08 PM
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9. Right message, wrong messenger.
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 10:31 PM
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19. Why?
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 04:35 PM
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12. Telecommunications Act is pretty screwed up too
Letting Newt and The Boys in with the trouncing in 1994, partly caused by the Clintons, is certainly something that paved the way for the Bush administration.

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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:10 PM
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13. Kick (nt).
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R_M Donating Member (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-24-07 09:38 PM
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16. The Telecom Act of 1996 would be the worse one.
Edited on Tue Jul-24-07 09:38 PM by R_M
No question about that.
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windbreeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-25-07 02:35 AM
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21. The worst one, was the deregulation of the Telecom industry...
by a long mile....it set the stage for all the secrecy and complicity of the media for this admin...I simply don't know how you top that..I know there are others in competition...but this was the worst..
windbreeze
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