Propaganda Victory and McCain agrees with Clinton.....

[illinoisprogressive]

24 Jul 2007 04:38 pm

When Nancy Pelosi went to Syria earlier this year, she got reamed for it in the conservative mediasphere and blogs. The Confederate Yankee labeled it "propaganda coup that will be used by Syria, the terrorists they sponsor, and Islamists worldwide." Michael Rubin writing in National Review Online wondered before the trip "if she will cede the Assad regime a propaganda victory, as did Sen. Arlen Specter?"

You remember the whole spiel. At the time, I think most liberals -- and, indeed, most Americans -- understood this to be both unfair and also reflective of a pretty weird and wrongheaded underlying worldview. And yet, this is pretty similar to what Hillary Clinton's saying in her criticism of Barack Obama. There's this similar notion that the US can be mortally wounded by perfidious leaders having their photos taken with important American politicians, or that engaging in high-level diplomacy with a country is a reward we offer for good behavior rather than a standard method of relating to the world.

UPDATE: John McCain agrees with Clinton.

http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/blog/electioncentral/2007/jul/24/anatomy_of_the_brawl_versus_hillary_and_obama

[applegrove]

1. I think Clinton had to deal with the issue when her husband was President.

That is why she answered the way she did. She just has more experience in what the routine is regarding foreign visits. I would imagine just about every country in the world would ask the USA to visit. Obviously serious consideration is given to only a few a year. That being said she didn't deny that she would visit if it made sense.

Her answer just showed her pertinent experience. Obama would act, in the end, exactly the same way no doubt. His point was he wouldn't shut diplomacy out as an option. That is what I got from his answer. He just didn't see the pitfall of his enthusiasm to paint himself as the opposite of the tragic * WH.

[rinsd]

2. LOL. In the same article they call out Obama's campaign team as Drudgy!

"UPDATE: John McCain agrees with Clinton."

I don't see that on the link.

Though I do find your attack hilarious since Obama's campaign team has decided that Reagan is their model for dealing with foreign leaders.

[Ethelk2044]

3. Guess who said this?

"I think it is a terrible mistake for our president to say he will not talk with bad people. You don't make peace with your friends -- you have to do the hard work of dealing with people you don't agree with," said Clinton, who is seeking the Democratic presidential nomination.

Opening talks with other countries doesn't mean the U.S. won't defend its interests whenever necessary, she said, "but what it means is that we should discuss other routes before we decide we're going to pursue military options.

"We cannot provide the leadership we need unless we are willing to try engage the other countries," she said,

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/local_story_112220939.html

[SaveElmer]

4. Continue the lie...nt

[rinsd]

5. Why that would be Hillary Clinton who said the SAME thing last night.

The preconditions part was the the little trick in the question and Obama missed it.

Not a big deal. It will be forgotten in a week.

His campaign comparing his foreign policy view to Nixon and Reaganb may come back to haunt him.