The vitriol and paranoia are getting on my nerves.

[TheWraith]

I've just waded through a thread largely filled with the most inane sort of tripe and self-justifying paranoia that you'll ever find, and it's far from alone here on DU.

People, is it not enough to have opinions, that we have to heap scorn and/or paranoid conspiracy theory onto any other alternative? Is it really that hard to hold an belief where the other side is not strapped to absolute evil? Is it neccessary that realism and nuance submit to the impulses of an absolute yes/no, on/off, good/bad world view?

I don't support Hillary Clinton for the nomination, but that doesn't mean I have to think that there's some massive media/neocon/Illuminati conspiracy to annoint her as the chosen candidate. I'd love for the Bush/Cheney era to be over today, but that doesn't obligate me to jump up and down, holding my breath and demanding an impeachement that I know isn't likely to happen. I don't do or say certain things that I find distasteful, but this does not promote me to the level of ultimate moral arbiter.

I swear, sometimes you'd think that we were Freepers here, the kind of pack mentality that takes over on certain subjects.

[caligirl]

1. Common sense and a mai tai.

a sensiblew combinatipon when it all gets to be too much. We are all Americans yet we have such a variety of beliefs about the state of our nation.

[Writer]

2. ...

((points down at her sig line))

[LoZoccolo]

3. There are NONE SO BLIND as those who WON'T SEE.

Just kidding lol.

[PurityOfEssence]

24. Get back to Naderbashing, ya bum!

Jeez, you've got a calling: Pinto him up and rear-end him; time's a wastin'.

(A fine cause, might I add...)

[Dogmudgeon]

4. K-and-R

And I know all about jumping up and down and holding one's breath!

:nuke:

:evilgrin:

--p!

[ruggerson]

5. You got that right

n/t

[laugle]

6. Amen to that.......that's why we take breaks!

[babylonsister]

7. Some points; yours are somewhat justified, but...

#1: the other side IS strapped to absolute evil
#2: I'm not a Hillary fan either, yet, but will vote for her (if I have to)
#3: If you don't DEMAND an impeachment, when will it happen and why is the concept (that's about all that's left imo) there?

I wouldn't know about the pack mentality of freepers, because I've never hung out there.

What does this mean? "
I don't do or say certain things that I find distasteful, but this does not promote me to the level of ultimate moral arbiter."

Oh, and buy a star so we can revisit the tombs of DU!

[question everything]

8. It is not just Hillary

plus, we provide enough ammunition once we move to the general elections mode.

The other side will not even have to work hard to throw trash at our nominee - whoever he or she is.

[orleans]

9. link? n/t

[babylonsister]

14. The Wraith's thoughts don't need a link. It's great reading

other people's opinions.

[ruggerson]

17. Except when you disagree with them, right?

:)

[orleans]

26. actually, i was just requesting a link to the thread that was referenced

in the op

and i was requesting the link in a rather non-serious nature (some sarcasm with it--this good op and some jerk is requesting a fucking link! the idea struck me as ironic & amusing. so I was the jerk requesting it. )

[Lilith Velkor]

10. It's a Rovian plot to disrupt your nerves!!1!

Thank you for your CONCERN!!!@1

:P

[AtomicKitten]

11. it's full contact politics

don't forget to wear a cup

[quinnox]

12. It is going to keep getting worse

I'm afraid this is just the beginning. Iv'e already seen the Clinton's marriage questioned a few times, and I think we will be hearing about Whitewater, Vince Foster plots, and Monica Lewinsky before this thing is over, especially if Hillary continues to steamroll as she has been doing. One of her opponents seems to have a particulary um, extremely devoted group of supporters, and will pull out anything if it is negative on Hillary, regardless of source.

[emilyg]

16. Yes they do

over and over... :puke:

[ripple]

20. While you're already feeling sick

Check out some posts from a few particularly nasty Hillary supporters on here. As long as you're purging, I trust that you will purge them, as well. And tell them so.

[Forkboy]

25. Shhh....don't point out to Hillary supporters that many act the exact same way.

[liberalmuse]

13. Ummm, this is DU, right?

I've been in and out of here for several years and I've never known it NOT to be this way. This is a place where people can vent in a manner that may be deemed inappropriate in other areas of their lives. Let it be.

[babylonsister]

15. What an observant, smart observation. That about sums it up! nt

[Usrename]

18. We do have a despotic president.

If that sounds impolitic to you, there doesn't seem to be a pretty or bi-partisan way to say it.

Some folks think it is imperative for our future, for the future of the world, to rid ourselves of this menace.

Others, I don't know what they are thinking. That the threat isn't real, that nothing bad will happen if we continue on this path, that fascism isn't all that bad, I have no idea at all.

"I swear, sometimes you'd think that we were Freepers here..."

Speak for yourself...

[ruggerson]

19. I find many of the fanatics here on the "outer edges"

are just as puerile, anti-democratic and vicious as the religious rightwingers.

They are flip sides of the same three dollar bill.

[Usrename]

21. I see that kind of behavior all across the political spectrum.

Sure, the right-wing always attributes poor and unpopular behavior to those who disagree with them.

I don't think it has anything at all to do with ideology.

That claim is usually just used as an excuse to avoid or ignore the real question or issue.

edit> bad syntax

[Douglas Carpenter]

22. "but even paranoids have REAL enemies"

but yes you are quite right.

The Vitriol and sniping is just a bit too much.

Recommend # 5

[Behind the Aegis]

23. We have disagreed on more than one occasion, but...

...this post is "spot on!" KUDOS! Right to the point.

:applause:

[puebloknot]

27. "...jump up and down, holding my breath and demanding an impeachement ..."

Speaking of inane tripe!

Activism in favor of impeachment for crimes against the state and the people is not paramount to a temper tantrum. Although...if a people's tantrum will do the job, I'm in favor.

[GeorgeGist]

28. Just to put your post in perspective ...

How many people must die for you to realize that you are the ultimate arbiter of your morals? Holding your breath and waiting for someone else to do it for you is cowardly,futile and distasteful.

[Igel]

29. As soon as I wrap up a book

on the Sea Peoples, "A Bee in the Mouth" (Peter Wood) is on my non-fiction reading list. (Then Well's "Deep Ancestry".)


"Bee's" subtitle is something like "anger in America".