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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 01:29 AM
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CBC head vows to win over either Clinton or Obama to participate in the Faux Noise debate
For the record, Kucinich (who angrily denounced the front-runners for backing out of the debate), Gravel, and Biden are still slated to appear in the Faux Noise debate.

==WASHINGTON (NNPA) – The Democratic Presidential Campaigns of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are standing firm that they will not participate in a controversial FOX News Channel debate although former Congressional Black Caucus Chairman Elijah Cummings vows to win over one candidate in order to get the other.

“We’re going to get them,” says Cummings in a recent interview after the All-American Forum that focused on issues of importance to Black voters. “I think what we’re trying to do now is get one of the major candidates like Obama or Clinton and once one comes, the other comes.”==

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“We will only be participating in the upcoming six sanctioned DNC debates. Thank you,” says Clinton spokeswoman Traci Otey Blunt.

Obama’s campaign spokeswoman, Candice Tolliver, was slightly less firm, but still declining.

“At this juncture, the campaign has committed to six sanctioned DNC debates. At this point, we are standing by our earlier statement that we are only committing to the CBC Institute’s CNN debate in South Carolina in January,” says Tolliver.==

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rpannier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 01:55 AM
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1. If Obama backs down that would pretty much end any chance of my supporting him
The way faux has treated him, I would seriously question his judgement at that point.
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comtec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 02:37 AM
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2. NO Self respecting Dem would be cought DEAD on fixed news!
NO ONE with an OUNCE of credibility would be dead on faux.
I can't believe the CBC is actually taking fuxedup seriously?!
This is like . . . well like a gay voting republican! (I would point out there are M A N Y open gays who vote GoP, sexuality does not change the fundamentals of who a person is. conservative, is conservative!)

granted skin color should not color one's political aspirations/intentions either, but seriously, fuxkedup news?? That's like poking the lion, a lot, then saying, care to play chess? and THEN being surprised he BIT YOUR HEAD OFF! :rant:
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 03:12 AM
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3. I like a lot of what the CBC does, but what the fuck are they thinking here?
Edited on Thu Jul-26-07 03:15 AM by Hippo_Tron
An all-out boycott of Faux News should be organized by the Democratic Party. They are NOT a legitimate news organization, they are a propaganda machine for the Republic Party. The only way for people to realize that is to start calling them on it.

IMO, the next Democratic President should have their Press Secretary revoke Faux's credentials to the White House. I have no problem with The National Review, The Weekly Standard, and all of the other right wing sources because they make their bias well known. Faux disguises themselves as fair and balanced and their agenda is counter to everything that the Democratic Party is trying to accomplish.

And for those of you who say that we need to reach out to people who watch Faux, I don't agree. It is almost impossible for one's sole news source to be Faux News and also vote Democratic. It is possible that someone watches Faux but also watches or listens to or reads other news sources as well and votes Democratic. We should reach out to those voters through those other news sources NOT Faux.
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Help me help Earth Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 12:05 PM
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6. An all out boycott?
That sounds like a great way to mobilize conservatives against us. Cons are burnt out right now, and even the threat of President Hillary has done little to motivate them. I'm annoyed at anyone who doesn't plan to attend the debate. They are just playing into the stereotype of the cowardly or elitist liberal that cons love to toss around, instead of appearing on their TV's making arguments that are rational and that most Americans agree with.
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Hippo_Tron Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 04:28 PM
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10. You don't seem to get it, Democrats can't make effective arguments on Faux News
Because the minute the debate is over, the pundits will come on and trash them.
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Help me help Earth Donating Member (217 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 05:03 PM
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11. They do that anyway using clips from CNN.
There is no avoiding that, instead it has to be confronted by actually appearing to refute the BS.
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 01:03 PM
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8. I agree, great post
:applause:
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 03:20 AM
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4. Maybe Kucinich, Biden and Gravel should reconsider.
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AmandaRuth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 06:31 AM
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5. Wasn't it a faux news outlet that,
ahem, "accidentally" left Clinton's and Edward's mics on the other day resulting in a big ole brouhaha. which obviously was their plan.
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rhombus Donating Member (678 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 12:09 PM
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7. CBC eltite = DLC elite
One and the same. All the Dems snubbed the DLC convention taking place today. It's a no-brainer- none of them will attend the CBC/Faux noise-enabling 'debate'.
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 01:04 PM
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9. Kucinich, Biden, and Gravel have yet to withdraw from the Faux debate
There is no indication from them that they will not attend the debate.
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penguin7 Donating Member (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 05:15 PM
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12. I agree with their decision
Kucinich is getting totally screwed over by the MSM, now you want him to turn this chance to convey his message? Where is Edwards on the three way debate? I haven't heard anything.
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 05:56 PM
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13. Edwards was the first candidate to announce he wasn't attending the Faux debate
Edited on Thu Jul-26-07 05:57 PM by draft_mario_cuomo
It took Obama a few days before reaching the same conclusion and HRC a few more days than Obama.

As far as Kucinich's "challenge", Edwards accepted. However, Edwards does not want to exclude anyone (unlike, ironically, Kucinich who wants to exclude Obama, Richardson, Biden, Dodd, and Gravel). He has agreed to a debate so long as it was done in a way that allowed all 8 candidates to participate. Kucinich and HRC have yet to respond to Edwards' on this (more proof of Kucinich's faux outrage and grandstanding...).
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penguin7 Donating Member (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 07:00 PM
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14. What was Edwards whispering to Hillary about?
I thought he had some debating plan?

And Kucinich has not responded to what? He is ready to debate Edwards.
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