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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 02:59 PM
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DoJ Makes It Official: Contempt Stops in Congress
The Justice Department sent a letter yesterday to the House Judiciary Committee that made the administration's position official: a U.S. attorney will not enforce a citation of contempt, should it pass the House.

Or as the letter (you can read it here), sent to the committee yesterday by Principal Deputy Assistant Attorney General Brian A. Benczkowski, put it:

"As it considers the contempt resolutions, we think it is important that the Committee appreciate fully the longstanding Department of Justice position, articulated during Administrations of both parties, that "the criminal contempt of Congress statute does not apply to the President or presidential subordinates who assert executive privilege."


That last quote is indeed from a 1995 opinion from Clinton's Justice Department, which The Washington Post reported on this weekend. As the Clinton-era DoJ officials behind that memo told the Post, they didn't think that Congress could force the U.S. attorney to prosecute, but did think that the president's assertion of executive privilege should be heard in court.

http://www.rawstory.com/showoutarticle.php?src=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tpmmuckraker.com%2Farchives%2F003779.php

Ummmmmmmmm...did anyone expect the loyal Bushie DOJ to do the right thing? Fuck them...fuck them all. IMO, of course.
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emulatorloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 03:02 PM
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1. Bushco has pretty much rigged the system -- Congress is gonna have to keep on pushing and pushing
hard.

I am writing my Repub Senator today -- this is fairly outrageous, and most sensible people are going to see it as such.

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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 03:12 PM
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8. Republicans need to feel real fear. Go for it.
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loyalkydem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 03:02 PM
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2. Bush knew
Bush knew this shit was coming, he planned this all along. What course of action can the house take to show they mean business?
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 03:06 PM
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3. I think...but am not sure...than and INHERENT contempt...
...would get past the obstacle of the DOJ refusing to handle the case. I am not up on this issue too much...so I hope someone with some info and knowledge will add to a discussion of this.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 03:06 PM
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4. Impeachment
Start with Gonzales. He has committed perjury most decidedly.
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Wapsie B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 03:06 PM
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5. That's what I would like to know.
Contempt means just that, no matter who's involved....well, normally anyway.
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BlackHawk706867 Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 03:08 PM
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6. They can still pursue this with Inherent Contempt charges.... Just
try them right in Congress/Senate. So the WH might try this, but Congress can send out the Sargent At Arms to do the arresting of these thugs...

ww
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 03:10 PM
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7. I have been reading about this process...
...and that is about all I have read that is really, really specific: The Sgt at Arms can do the arresting.

What I think I know about this process also is: That the CJ of the SOTUS is the trial judge...and it kind of sounds like how an impeachment goes forth procedurally ~~ but I am not real sure on this.

If anyone has a good link to something which explains this process in full, please post! TIA!
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BlackHawk706867 Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 03:24 PM
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10. This explanation comes from our own DU....
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 03:27 PM
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11. Thank you...
...when in doubt...ask DU! :hi:
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BlackHawk706867 Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 03:28 PM
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12. There is a bit of a caveat here... The person that may be imprisoned..
cannot be held beyond Congress's adjournment date... hmmmmm bummer..

ww
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 05:04 PM
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13. Could they then just not adjourn?
I 'spose they could skip a few vacations for a really good cause???
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-26-07 03:14 PM
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9. Sounds like the Courts never tested that long standing position...
DOJ opinions don't really mean more than Senate opinions in a balance of powers fight.
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