Dodd, Biden critical of Clinton-Obama duel

[draft_mario_cuomo]

Both likely score points for appearing above the fray, and notice Dodd's subtle jab at Obama and his "new kind of politics" theme.

Dodd

==Sen. Christopher J. Dodd (Conn.) deplored their argument as a "false debate," saying it "has become just another personal argument among politicians and that's lamentable given the stakes in this election.

"There is nothing new about this kind of politics and it certainly doesn't demonstrate a readiness to lead the nation when our reputation around the world is in tatters," Dodd said in a written statement.==

Biden

==Sen. Joseph R. Biden Jr. (Del.), chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee, dismissed the Clinton-Obama clash as a "squabble," criticizing both candidates for giving Republicans an opening to characterize Democrats as unable to present a united front on national security issues.

"Petty arguments about foreign policy credentials will not get mine-resistant vehicles in the field any faster and will not get our troops home any sooner. Already Republicans are seeking to divide Democrats on the one issue that they have no credibility on after 4 1/2 years of President Bush's failed policy in Iraq," Biden said.==

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[Like It Is]

1. They recognize foolishness when they see it.

Clinton and Obama are headed for a train wreck. neither one of them are capable of being president. They are both bought and paid for. Shillary is certainly "Bush lite". Obama is just lite.

[murbley40]

3. shillary /Obama

I agree with you LIKE IT IS; they are like children fighting in the school yard.

BIDEN 08!!

[Like It Is]

4. Alright!

[AliceWonderland]

8. I'm sick of the both of them, but I think the "Shillary" is rather unnecessary. n/t

[Like It Is]

25. She's a shill for Bill!

She's doing an end run around the two term rule! Man & Wife are like one. You can believe the Republicans will hit her with that if she wins the nomination.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

7. It seems the adult supervision has finally arrived nt

[wisteria]

2. I appreciate Dodd and Biden acting like responsible adults and thus proving

that they are more mature and wiser. Honestly, both of these men have more qualifications than Clinton and Obama- especially in the area of foreign relations.

[Like It Is]

5. The people with brains are speaking out.

It sure is good to hear from some responsible voters.

[Inuca]

10. Absolutely!

and God only knows how important foreign relations will be for the next president.

[karynnj]

6. Glad someone is making sense

[ellacott]

9. I'm glad they spoke up

[jillan]

11. Kudos to Biden for bringing the discussion back to where it belongs

on what is important.

[Jillian]

12. Proud to give this thread Rec #5

[draft_mario_cuomo]

14. Thanks nt

:hi:

[SIMPLYB1980]

13. Glad one of our canidates said what needed to be said.

You rock Dodd and Biden.:yourock:

[draft_mario_cuomo]

15. And Edwards made a similar statement today too nt

[jillan]

19. Matthews just reported on that! Along with Edwards being #1 in Iowa

And per usual, not one word about Biden or Dodd :(

[Like It Is]

26. That's because Chris Matthews is a piece of crap.

The MSNBC and NBC Media is dictated to by GE. They don't say anything without permission.

[goodgd_yall]

16. Sorry to sound so mean-spirited

but I'd like to see them squabble themselves both out of the running. I just looked at both of their top contributors and I'm thinking, why would I want either of them? Looking where the money comes from tells it all. Both are too business as usual for my taste.

[jillan]

17. Actually, that is what is happening.

imho they both look foolish.

[PurityOfEssence]

38. Shhh.

Maybe they won't catch on.

She can't ever lose, and he thinks he'll gain by flailing on her some more. They both look self-absorbed, petty and deceptive the more they persist.

With all the money they each have, you'd think there'd be SOMEONE in their respective camps who can talk some sense into them.

It's so grating that it's like they've become two torture devices: The Iron Maiden versus The Rack.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

18. self delete nt

[Doctor_J]

20. I think that's who Goodgod was talking about...

:shrug:

[draft_mario_cuomo]

21. Yes, my mistake. I assumed goodgood was talking about Biden and Dodd. Thanks for pointing that out

:hi:

[goodgd_yall]

23. Oh, thank you

I didn't read your post before I wrote my rebuttal.

[goodgd_yall]

22. I hope you understood my post

Or maybe you were reiterating. I KNOW Obama and Clintion have much of the support of investment firms and banks. That's who I was referring to.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

24. I understand. I misread it and thought you were referring to Dodd and Biden. My mistake

:hi:

[Like It Is]

27. You got it right!

Hillary and Obama are bought and paid for. The big money is buying a Democrat this time. They figure that Bush has killed the Republicans for the near future.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

28. I agree. Follow Wall Street's money

When one Democrat raises almost as much as McCain, Ghouliani, and Romney combined on Wall Street there is something that is not kosher in that candidate's stance toward corporate America...

[Colobo]

29. Chances of Dodd becoming the next president: Slim and None, and Slim is outta town.

[Like It Is]

36. I'll agree, Dodd has not caught on.

But it's unbelievable that he and Biden are not near the top of the pack. i think that right now it is all name recognition. The media just keeps Hillary, Obama and occasionally Edwards in the forefront. Biden and Dodd don't get a mention. It's disgraceful.

[demommom]

30. Hillary/Obama

:spank:
Ridiculous! But it sure kept them in the spotlight, maybe that was the intent. It makes me sick to think of either of them as our President. :silly:

[maximusveritas]

31. Looks like they jumped in the fray, not out of it

They're just trying to score cheap political points. This shows how desperate they are. By having this fight, Obama and Hillary are only further defining themselves as the frontrunners. The other candidates have become more and more irrelevant, which is why they're lashing out like this.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

33. Any politician would have done what Edwards, Biden, and Dodd did

You know Obama would have seized on this to make his "new kind of politics" spiel. ;) Obama and Clinton are only weakening themselves with this, not further defining themselves as the frontrunners. Look at the recent polls. Obama is actually losing ground to Edwards now (15 point national lead over JE a week ago, now only a 8 point lead). I think this is largely because of Edwards' strong debate performance and the fact that Obama always declines in the polls after a debate, but partly because of the name-calling between HRC and BO (which hurts Obama more, because part of his appeal is based on being viewed as a "different kind of politician").

[jillan]

34. I have to disagree - Biden tried to bring the conversation back to the issues

and he is actively going after Rudy....not Hilbama.

[Clintonista2]

32. Is that supposed to be surprising?

I can hardly imagine Biden, Dodd, or ANY OTHER candidate coming out and saying "It's great to see Obama and Hillary go at it"

[Like It Is]

35. Lets get real people, candidates slug it out in the primary.

And unite behind the winner for the General Election. That's the way it's played.

[IndianaGreen]

37. Translation: Dodd and Biden are jealous of the press that Hillary and Obama are getting.

Dodd's refusal to defund the war in Iraq and to support the impeachment of Gonzo and Cheney shows a lot more about his lack of "readiness to lead the nation when our reputation around the world is in tatters."

Biden's bizarre proposal to partition Iraq, without bothering to ask the Iraqi people, in order to make it easier to fulfill the war goals of turning Iraq's oil industry over to American oil companies shows Biden as one of those that are "unable to present a united front on national security issues."

[Like It Is]

39. If they were jealous of their press exposure could you blame them?

The Media is trying to dictate our election choices and I resent that. And you need to get your shit straight, Dodd voted to de-fund the war. Biden was the only one who voted to fund the troops. How do you know Biden didn't talk to the Iraqis about his plan?