Clinton/Bayh?

[LBJDemocrat]

To those of you who are considering voting for Clinton in the primaries, please consider that, while she might appoint liberal justices to the Supreme Court, she is also more likely than the other frontrunners to pick a DLC Democrat like Evan Bayh as her VP. If anyone is likely to make the same mistake Gore made in 2000, it's Clinton. Are you comfortable with the idea of Evan Bayh running as the Democratic nominee in 2016, if all goes well? I remind you that Bayh was the chairman of the DLC when the DLC was no longer even that popular (during the 2004 elections).

There's a reason that he's not running for president right now, and part of it is that he probably has an arrangement with Clinton.

[IndianaJones]

1. Was Gore ever a "DLC Democrat"? nt.

[Tom Joad]

3. of course.

[Tom Joad]

2. clinton is dlc. corporate america is counting on her to carry on the tradition.

[SaveElmer]

4. Absolutely...was sorry Bayh dropped out...

Don't think that ticket will happen, but certainly wouldn't disappoint me if it was...

[durrrty libby]

5. I'm not worried about it. Hillary doesn't make pedestrian mistakes

[Alexander]

6. Bayh didn't run because he knew he was too far right for the base.

I'm sure given Bill Clinton's remarks about how he'd one day like to vote for Bayh, there probably is an arrangement worked out.

[RufusTFirefly]

7. Thanks!! I was searching for a synonym for "uninspiring"

And now I have one: Clinton/Bayh.

Much obliged.

[wyldwolf]

8. Completely 100% comfortable with Sen. Bayh

I remind you that Bayh was the chairman of the DLC when the DLC was no longer even that popular (during the 2004 elections).

When four members and one former member was in the Democratic primaries... uh huh.

[obnoxiousdrunk]

9. Not the

best ticket, but still OK. Me thinks Clinton will pick Obama as her VP>

[emilyg]

11. I do, too.

[Colobo]

10. Clinton/BAH!... I like it

Clinton/BAH!

[SaveElmer]

14. Clinton/ObamWAHHHH...

I like that one better! :-)

[Alexander]

15. You would like it. It sums up your infantile debate tactics.

[SaveElmer]

16. Gosh...

Why yell at me and not Katzen?

:cry:

[ronnykmarshall]

18. Selective memory?

[Alexander]

22. I don't see capitalized "WAAAH"s in anyone's posts except the Hillary fans'.

HAVING TO READ ALL CAPS IS QUITE ANNOYING, OR DIDN'T YOU REALIZE THAT?

[SaveElmer]

24. So I ask again...

Why didn't you yell at Katzen...

It's not fair!!!

:grr:

[Alexander]

27. Because one "BAH" is not nearly as annoying as 100 "WAAH"s.

Particularly given what "WAAAH" means, a blanket criticism of anyone who dares question St. Hillary, and the number of times I've seen it on DU (courtesy of Hillary fans and no one else).

[SaveElmer]

30. Well since you aren't gonna play fair...I have only one thing to say...

WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Name removed]

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[ronnykmarshall]

36. Sounds like a double standard.

[Alexander]

40. Not if you can count.

100 is greater than 1.

You must have been a real joy in math class.

[ronnykmarshall]

42. Actually I have a learning disability

and had major issues in school with math.

Thanks for asking.

[Alexander]

48. Apparently the major issues continue...

Since you can't tell that 100 is greater than 1.

Maybe you shouldn't comment if the subject matter gives you so much trouble.

[ronnykmarshall]

51. Oooooooo and yet ANOTHER personal insult.

Do you have any "retard" jokes too?

How PROGRESSIVE of you!

[Alexander]

53. And another dishonest statement! The hits keep coming...

You can dish it out but you can't take it.

Typical of the Hillary fanatics.

[wyldwolf]

23. don't you know WAHHH is way worse than BAH!?

[Alexander]

26. 100 times is worse than 1 time, yes.

I like being able to count. A skill you should try.

I offer you a challenge.

Give me a nickel for every annoying "WAAAH" on DU courtesy of a Hillary fan.

You'll be broke by Monday.

[dionysus]

29. don't forgot that zinger of a tactic

of posting a page of :rofl: smilies in response after your arguments get destroyed.

[rinsd]

12. I love it! Anti-Hillary people have nothing but ridiculous fear & smear tactics

[Alexander]

13. And the Hillary people have nothing but her "inevitability"

to shove down everyone's throats. :eyes:

[ronnykmarshall]

19. and once again another .... I know you are, but what am I moment!

TFIG!

[Alexander]

33. Can you dispute what I said? No, of course not.

So you attack the messenger, with childish tactics.

Typical.

[ronnykmarshall]

34. Just how so Hillary supporters "shove her down" ...

people's throats?

Post threads about her?

Defend her from attacks?

How different is that from supports of ANY candidate?

If reading a post about Hillary is getting it "shoved down your throat" .... here's a clue ... don't read the mother fuckers then!

It's real simple.

[Alexander]

38. How many "inevitable" and "Hillary is way ahead" posts are there?

Way too many, considering the very tiny group of people who continually post them.

"How different is that from supports of ANY candidate?"

Because most of the pro-Hillary posts capitalize on her poll numbers and ask us all to support her in the primaries with some bullshit excuse that not doing so would divide the Democratic Party.

Silly me, I thought that's what primaries were all about. Apparently they're just coronation ceremonies. :eyes:

"If reading a post about Hillary is getting it "shoved down your throat" .... here's a clue ... don't read the mother fuckers then!

It's real simple."

Kind of hard not to when all of GD: P and a good chunk of GD are saturated with these threads. From the same six people.

[ronnykmarshall]

41. Try the ignore feature if you get so upset.

I think that the Hillary haters like yourself go out of your way to get all pissed off about poll numbers and pro-Hillary posts.

I think it's all bullshit. Yeah HRC's number are good. So what? The mantra from the Hill-bashers is the same crap over and over. They all get sticks shoved up their asses and jump all over the Hillary supporters with the same tired lines you just mentioned.

WHERE have any of the "same six people" posted ANYTHING making the claim that the primaries are just coronation ceremonies. Please point out the threads you mention. I don't agree. I'm one of the biggest HRC supporters around here and there is NO WAY I think this is a slam shut deal she'll get the nomination.

So, am I one of the "gang of six"? If so, I'd like see ANY post where I've suggested that HRC is the going to be the nominee and everyone should just shut up. I'll wait.

[Alexander]

44. No thanks...I'm not as thin-skinned or dishonest as you.

"I think that the Hillary haters like yourself go out of your way to get all pissed off about poll numbers and pro-Hillary posts."

When you pull statements out of your ass like this one, you deserve whatever shit gets thrown at you.

Just because I don't want her to get the nomination means I'm one of the "Hillary haters"? Bullshit. I've made no secret of the fact that I will vote, canvas and donate money to the Democratic nominee, whomever it is.

It is dishonest people like yourself who turn the rest of DU off with your bullshit.

"I think it's all bullshit. Yeah HRC's number are good. So what? The mantra from the Hill-bashers is the same crap over and over. They all get sticks shoved up their asses and jump all over the Hillary supporters with the same tired lines you just mentioned."

I have yet to see a single coherent reason for supporting Hillary Clinton - other than that she's a woman, she's Bill's wife and that she's ahead in the polls.

The rest of us discuss substance while the Hillary fanatics can only discuss trivial aspects. None of the most steadfast supporters post regarding any other issues or anything else of importance. It's all-Hillary, all the time, and if these people had anything worthwhile to contribute, they'd discuss other issues in addition to supporting their candidate, like I do.

"WHERE have any of the "same six people" posted ANYTHING making the claim that the primaries are just coronation ceremonies."

Take my words out of context. Fine. You're only demonstrating that you have difficulty with reading.

"I'm one of the biggest HRC supporters around here and there is NO WAY I think this is a slam shut deal she'll get the nomination."

But unless we all support her right now, you'll call us "Hillary haters". You tried that bullshit with me and you'll surely push that crap on everyone else.

"So, am I one of the "gang of six"? If so, I'd like see ANY post where I've suggested that HRC is the going to be the nominee and everyone should just shut up. I'll wait."

Another tactic by this group is to paint anyone who doesn't support Hillary as a "hater", just like you did. Not only is that dishonest and creating straw men, it sounds exactly like the Bush mantra "you're with us or against us".

So if you continue making dishonest statements, offering nothing of substance and using broad-brush smears to define people, you will be well on your way towards being as obnoxious as the half-dozen Hillary fanatics here.

[ronnykmarshall]

45. Thanks hon ...

:loveya:

[Alexander]

52. If you don't want to take it, then don't dish it out in the first place.

Defeating you in debates has been such fun.

[rinsd]

20. Stalking me from thread to thread now.

Wasn't it bad enough the mods had delete our last fight?

[Alexander]

21. I was already posting in the thread...and you're not important enough to stalk.

Get over yourself.

[ronnykmarshall]

35. Yet you keep responding ....

someone needs attention.

[Alexander]

39. I was responding to rinsd, not you. Looks like you need the attention.

What's the matter? Your pro-Hillary buddies can't make decent arguments by themselves?

[ronnykmarshall]

43. You insulted rinsd ...

I jumped in. Deal with it.

[Alexander]

46. I was stating a fact. Deal with it.

I wasn't stalking rinsd and a simple glance upthread will show that I was, indeed, posting here before rinsd was.

You chimed in with your insults, which were uncalled for. Did Mommy and Daddy not love you enough or something?

Is it really too much to ask that you remain honest? I guess so. :shrug:

[ronnykmarshall]

49. Oh my ...

another personal insult.

Thanks again, hon!

[Alexander]

50. Another dishonest statement - personal insults are deleted here.

If I had really insulted you instead of stating facts, my post would have been deleted already.

Thanks again for the dishonesty!

[kmla]

54. *sigh*

I respect Ronny. He has a great sense of humor, and makes good arguments. Seems to have alot of fun with both real life, and life on DU.





You? Not so much.

[ronnykmarshall]

55. Ahhhh ..... you little charmer !!!

:hug: :loveya:

[FrenchieCat]

17. Bayh is pronounced Bye.........and so, based on the pun involved,

I doubt Hillary would be so dense as to want to hear "Clinton Bye" from the time she would select a VP. The GOP would have a field day with that.......as it would be a gift offered to them on a platter.

Just based on that, and the fact that Bayh reminds me much of Alfafa, I somehow doubt this is a ticket in the making!

[wyldwolf]

25. sort of like Clinton... GORE? or Reagan... BUSH?!

[FrenchieCat]

31. No......

sorta like Clinton

[zulchzulu]

47. What an awful name choice...

It would be bad enough to have the Repugs running easily against two Clintons, but to throw in the ticket where it would sound like "Clinton Bye" would just be too painful to endure...

Fortunately, she will not be the nominee anyway...

[dionysus]

28. oh jeebus

"Clinton\Bayh 08; we've got the milque and the toast"

[mod mom]

37. DLC NIGHTMARE. nt

[OHdem10]

56. Bayh would add nothing and may take away from ticket.

This party can really come up with questionable ideas.

Anything but winning seems to be their purpose.