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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 07:16 AM
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Omaha Steve: Have the Republicans pulled the wool over our eyes ???

Something Marta and I have talked about a couple of times. IF you were a Republican who wasn't sure your party could continue in power after the 06 elections, what would you do to win? If you don't have an early strong candidate, you push the Dems that have baggage issues to the front of the media. You even perhaps give $ to these candidates to pump them up.

The luggage:

The Honorable Senator from New York, Hillary Rodham Clinton. A blue state. Lived in the White house for eight years. Fought for socialized health care. Her YouTube selection should have been Stand by Your Man. But a lot of people in the county don't realize the successful womens suffrage movement meant women could now hold the highest office. She didn't push for labor while on the Walmart board. Her other carry-on suitcase is a decade and a half of anti-Hillary press and slams from the right.

The Honorable Senator Barack Obama, freshman Senator for Illinois. Intelligent, worked in the right places, and rocked the house when he was on stage at the 04 convention. Now they (whoever THEY are) whisper he is only half black, so he isn't a real black candidate. Huh??? We have come so far since our country waged war on itself to make all men (and now women) equal. At least the term is half black, not the N word. Progress I guess.

I said before Marta and I voted for Jesse Jackson in the year of the STOP Jesse wave. We both voted with a ticket that included former member of the U.S. House of Representatives, Geraldine Ferraro. We Democrats can judge candidates by the "content of their character".

Senator John Edwards couldn't deliver on the South in 04. But Dem's lost the Solid South when President Johnson did the right thing and pushed through the comprehensive civil rights bill. Senator Edwards also was tied to a campaign that didn't fight for every vote. He is also way behind the leaders in most polls and in cash. The only current candidate I've met and shaken hands with.

Senator Al Gore could be the 900 pound gorilla if he enters before Labor Day.

The lower tier candidates all have things in their favor IF they ever get the attention to display it. Since I chose Edwards a little over a month ago, I have taken several looks at the lower tier. I could see voting for any of them should they come to the front row of the class.

Have the Republicans pulled the wool over our eyes by getting the baggage handlers out front early? Have they pushed us toward candidates they think they will have an easier time beating come November 08? Only time will tell. With all the earlier than normal primaries and caucuses, we might not have time to sort things out for our real winner.

Omaha Steve

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chemp Donating Member (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 07:27 AM
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1. I've been saying that from the start
The only reason the MSM calls Hillary the front runner, and talk radio beats repeatedly about what Hillary would do in office (Bill on the supreme court)
is because she has the most baggage, and more people claim they would NEVER vote for her than would.Despite her ideas., claims, and actions they see her as a liability.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 07:38 AM
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2. and many Dems are playing right into the Repug card game by declaring that
they would never vote for Hil Clinton.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 07:48 AM
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4. My problems are how she voted for Bush's war.
I'd still vote for her, but me not liking her has nothing to do with how the media or the right thinks. I guess it's easier for a Hillary supporter to blame the media - oh well.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 08:03 AM
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7. I am not blaming the media-If push comes to shove and she is our nominee, I will
show up and vote. The SC is at stake.
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4dsc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 07:56 AM
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5. Keep repeating that MEME!!!
The current MEME that you shouldn't be repeating is that Hillary is not electable!!
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Perry Logan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 07:39 AM
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3. When you find yourself hypothesizing that Republicans are brilliant...
Edited on Sat Jul-28-07 07:40 AM by Perry Logan
...you need to lie down. Turn off your computer. Breathe slowly. Read a book.
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 07:59 AM
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6. FOX has been promoting Hillary/Obama for years.
I've always felt our best chance to win is Edwards, but the only time he's on the air is after a haircut. Yes, we are being manipulated.
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 08:58 AM
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8. Republicans always financially support the lefty candidate that will keep Dems from the presidency
Let's not forget who was supporting Nader to stay in the presidential race, BOTH TIMES that GW Bush ran.

I suspect that the Dems employed by the Dem candidates being supported by GOPers DO NOT want to lose their jobs and are therefore forging on ahead supporting their candidate despite the obvious weaknesses of their candidate.

AND SO it's up to the rest of us. WE must think for ourselves, decide which candidates the GOP can most easily mangle. WE CANNOT AFFORD ANOTHER REPUGNICAN PRESIDENT.

Oh, and this first paragraph of your post said it all:

IF you were a Republican who wasn't sure your party could continue in power after the 06 elections, what would you do to win? If you don't have an early strong candidate, you push the Dems that have baggage issues to the front of the media. You even perhaps give $ to these candidates to pump them up.
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PurityOfEssence Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 03:07 PM
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9. Could it be any more obvious?
No wonder there are so many laws to try and keep con artists at bay: the human being is so suckerable it's hard to believe.

Barring extreme events, she'd get beaten like a carpet at spring cleaning.

Can you imagine the howling horse shit on February 6th after her de-facto coronation? I can, and it makes me wanna barf. We're going to hear about her shady commodities success, an endless barrage about Vince Foster's "murder" and more nastiness than Tom DeLay on a spree.

It's just beyond ridiculous.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 03:14 PM
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10. Excepting that the South did vote for the Republican en masse
until 1994 and still re-elected Clinton in 1996.

Too bad people keep repeated "conventional" history.
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Omaha Steve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-28-07 06:25 PM
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11. All I can think of is...

Steve Martin's common knowledge!!!!

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