Bid to punish Bush aides may fail

[acmavm]

The House and Senate have escalated efforts in the US attorneys case, but the White House may delay a resolution.

By Gail Russell Chaddock | Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor
from the July 27, 2007 edition

http://www.csmonitor.com/2007/0727/p03s04-usju.html?s=hns

Washington - Congress is running out of time – but not options – in a standoff with the Bush White House over executive privilege.

In a rare move, the House Judiciary Committee voted along party lines this week to cite two top presidential aides with criminal contempt. And in an escalation of the standoff, the Senate Judiciary Committee on Thursday issued subpoenas to White House Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove and his deputy, J. Scott Jennings, to also testify under oath and provide documents on the firings of nine US attorneys last year.

The moves are part of an ongoing congressional probe into whether improper political influence was the motive for the firings.

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At issue is whether Congress can compel the president to allow top aides to answer questions under oath. The House Judiciary panel issued subpoenas for White House Chief of Staff Joshua Bolten and former White House counsel Harriet Miers to answer questions about last year's US attorney firings.

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We're talking about a matter that is at the heart of executive power: the president's ability to receive confidential advice on an executive power that is indisputably his," says Douglas Kmiec, a professor of constitutional law at Pepperdine University in Malibu, Calif., and former Reagan administration official. "But this constitutional principle has always existed in a quiet, untested tension with Congress's ability to investigate. If the law courts pronounce in a black-and-white fashion, they will advantage one side or another going into the future."

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[napi21]

1. I really believe it's time to go to the SCOTUS with the EP stuff!

Shrub is misusing it, and that opinion is shared by all the experts I've heard. It does however also apply to everybody is or ever will be POTUS! Even though Shrub tried to pack the SCOTUS with HIS BUDDIES, I tend to think even Roberts, Scalia and Alito are smart enough to recognize their decision would affect all future presidents too, and would hesitate to give ShrubCo total free reign.

[acmavm]

2. I believe that we need to go straight for impeachment. Nothing less will

save our poor country.

[napi21]

4. Here's the problem I see with impeachment.

I would LOVE to see Gonzo GONE! But although we wouldn't have a problem winning in the Hosue, I think the AH Pubs would stick together in the Senate and there would never be a conviction. I think THAT would just embolden Gonzo to do anything he damn well pleases KNOWING oone can stop him!

I see the same thing happening with Shrub/Cheney impeachment as well!

Remember BC became MORE POPULAR with the public AFTER the impeachment hearings and the non-conviction in the Senate! Other than an insertion about impeachment in the history books, I don't think it hurt BC at all!

[rodeodance]

3. I think both Roberts and Alito would expand the Exec powers.

[Cobalt-60]

5. It's still got to be tried

I seldom quote Stalin, but here's it's appropriate.
(though translation being what it is this is no doubt a paraphrase)
"You can't be afraid to fight the fascists".
Damn strait. They have to be opposed every step of the way.

[windbreeze]

6. I always understood that Congress WAS the checks and balances

end of Exe.Power/Privilege....so that ONE individual...was NOT given the ability to run this country totally off a cliff, single handed, like this man is doing....Does this mean, that we have been fooled all these years, and it just took a real asshole to make us understand that we and our Congress are powerless? Maybe we better be sure we know who we select to live in our house in DC!!

The more I think about all of what's going on, the more I read...the more I think I finally get it..This country as we know it, has to be totally destroyed..in order to force upon us, the NAU..our monetary system..our form of gov't...all of it...think I am kidding...well, sad to say, I'm not...There has to be a reason for what's been going on for a long time...there has to be something that none of us are paying attention too...there has to be a reason for *'s arrogance, and his disregard for the Constitution, Congress, the American people as a whole, there has to be a reason that the Congress is being pushed to the edge...(to show the American people how ineffective they have really been all along?)doesn't it strike anyone strange how the Mexican election was questionable, and how Harper? came to be elected in Canada...ask yourself why the recent exe orders about the military being used to quell protests were necessary(does someone expect big protests in the near future?)or the one stating they can take everything you own if you openly disagree with their plans for Iraq...the only thing that fits is...the NAU and tptb who have decided we, the people are going to be given NO choice in that matter...we are well on the way to one world government...

Check out all the candidates from both sides...see which ones belong to the CFR...Trilateral Commission....Bilderberger...see if any of them are talking about the NAU...and if NOT, WHY NOT? why is this being kept secret? IF candidates from both sides, belong to the same organizations, and those organizations have the same goals...then how can they be different, and how can we expect anything different from any of them??????????? IF the NAU is supposed to be an accomplished fact by 2010....someone better wake up...soon...(off rant)

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