I am a pro-drug war progressive. I was a pro- Iraq war progressive

[mdmc]

until the war became unpopular. I am a progressive that supports the DLC, Walmart, and Ruppret Murdock. I am not a :scared:liberal:scared:. I am a progressive

[Der Blaue Engel]

1. Um...congratulations? n/t

[roody]

2. Is this a joke? I don't get it.

[AntiFascist]

You have successfully taken over the drug trade n/t

[silverweb]

3. OH, I get it.

Your context was unclear and I was confused until I thought about it for a minute. You're talking about what Hillary said during the YouTube debate.

Good points.

[Mythsaje]

4. Pro drug-war?

Ick.

Might as well say "Pro-Stupidity."

I don't tend to think "progressive" is any worse a word to use than "liberal." I consider myself both. I believe in progress; socially, technologically, and politically. That makes me progressive. And we all know the definition of "liberal."

[Milo_Bloom]

5. Clinton, Edwards, Biden... describes so many of them.

[stray cat]

6. I'd rather having you voting democrat than republican

so even though I know where you are going with it - I would still say welcome if you were serious.

[SomeGuyInEagan]

7. Who is ... Hillary Clinton?

[polichick]

8. Yeah, go figure!

:puke:

[welshTerrier2]

9. you don't sound like a progressive ...

you sound more like what one might call a "modern progressive."

Modern progressives are characterized by their hawkish, corporatist orientation on most issues. You might think of the term "modern" in this context to mean "not."

[Ian David]

12. I think that either this is a cry for help...

or an attempt to see how many hints he can drop before someone notices he doesn't belong here.

[welshTerrier2]

13. i saw the post as satire ...

fwiw, i did not think the OP seriously held those positions ...

[Ian David]

16. I hope you're right. n/t

[mdmc]

22. this time next year there will be only 1 dem running for pres

and she will be holding all these positions. Suck it up man.

[Ian David]

23. I get it! It's like a Hillary-bashing fortune cookie! Well, it could be worse.

We could end up with Joe Biden as the nominee.

[mdmc]

24. not at all bashing - the next president will be much better

Gravel would be great. Biden and Hilldog will be good. Ghouliani will be a little bit better.
Are you really a Gravel supporter? If so, do you really think Biden would be worse then Hillary?
I am from NYS, so it would be local political suicide to oppose Hillary (unless you support Obama, who will most likely be veep).

Again, peace. Peace and low stress to you.

[Ian David]

25. Without Biden, there would have been no Gonzales, No Roberts, no Scalito. n/t

[mdmc]

27. thanks for the info

God Bless!

[mdmc]

26. okay, perhaps a little bashing of the use "progressive" instead of moderate

Any DU'er with Hilldog's positions would be considered a moderate democrat, not a progressive democrat.

[LWolf]

43. mdmc

has been here for years; at least as long as I, if not longer. It's true that some of us don't "fit" the newer, bigger, more "modern progressive" DU as comfortably as we did in earlier years.

I interpreted the OP to be a characterization of the kind of "progressives" in the top tier of the primary race, and perhaps of their supporters.

:shrug:

[mdmc]

45. God bless you lone wolf

:patriot:

[LWolf]

46. And same back to you.

:hi:

[Ian David]

10. Also...

:P

[mdmc]

11. doh! A pan!

thats gotta hurt!

peace and low stress my friend...

[killbotfactory]

14. You're a MODERN progressive

In other words, not a progressive at all.

[IndianaGreen]

15. My dear mdmc, stop it! You are channeling Hillary!

:-)

[dsc]

17. I am not in favor of the drug war

but I don't think that one isn't a liberal solely because they support it. It should be noted that Prohibition was supported by many liberals. Many people have personal experience with drugs that have colored them. That doesn't make them not a liberal.

[David__77]

18. She cannot claim that title.

I don't mind that she's trying, but she'll have to change to really lay claim to it.

[Oldenuff]

19. Pro-drug war?

Support WalMart..LOL,that's a good one :)

btw Those who are Pro-Drug war,are (knowingly,or unknowingly) Pro-Crime.Wonder how may Millionaires were actually created by running drugs?It'd probably surprise you.

I'm anti-drug war,but you might have guessed that.

[ShortnFiery]

20. Good. I'm a anti-govt in MY Business (no wars!) grass-roots LIBERAL, not a Corporate Progressive.

IMO, we need the DLC "Progressives" to go back to being what they truly are: Moderate Republicans. :shrug:

[Alexander]

21. The Drug War is racist. I hope you know what you're supporting.

[mdmc]

28. peace and low stress my friend

support!

[Alexander]

29. The Drug War is still racist - do you support racist drug policy?

[mdmc]

34. I am just getting ready for the inevitable

Right now I am supporting a non-drug war candidate - H. Dennis Kucinich.

But eventually, we will have to support a "pro-drug war progressive".

It is sad but true.

I don't support the drug war as much as I support the Democratic Party. I support the Democratic Party, not the drug war. The Democratic Party supports the drug war, not me.

Peace and low stress my friend.

[MiserableFailure]

30. Racism is not the main reason to oppose the drug war

But yes the drug war is racist. It's also classist. Very few If I bust someone for crack cocaine(high percentage of users are black AND poor), they're gonna get a much longer sentence on average than someone busted for powdered cocaine(high percentage of users are white AND rich).

So it's racist and classist, yes, but the main reason to oppose it is the fact that it's a victimless crime, just like prostitution. I used to drug bust at least once a week when I was on patrol, and I didn't like it. I hate that it's a part of a cop's job. I would prefer that cops would be able to spend all their time finding and helping prosecute people who are actually hurting people. Drugs are a health problem and not a criminal one. And legalizing them would put the gangbanging dealers out of business. It continues because prison guard unions are very strong, but a lot of cops don't like it. I'd say that a majority of the people I work with are in favor of at least marijuana legalization.

[mdmc]

39. I have many trooper friends that agree with you

You are correct on this issue my friend.

[ProudDad]

48. When I lived in Oakland, CA

I used to watch the daily phony "war on drugs" game. I couldn't help thinking that most of those cops out rousting Toyotas looking for a rock or two didn't get into the "Protect and Serve" game for that...

Thanks for reinforcing my opinion... :hi:

[Hell Hath No Fury]

31. So you are a Will Marshall "progressive"....

in other words?

Uh huh...

That is one of the things I hate the MOST about the DLC bunch -- their attempt to hijack the word "progressive". Progressive my sagging ASS. :eye:

[Bryn]

32. Hillary?

[leftist.]

33. Pro drug-war?

What a strange item to pin yourself to.

"I'm a Pro-CALEA Democrat that voted for Farm subsidy reform before deciding I needed to part my hair on the other side of my head".

[Jackpine Radical]

35. The Iraq war was a disaster, but I was right to vote for it

because I wasn't really voting for it, and anyway I had to vote to authorize it because there might have been WMDs. I'm for civil rights except for people who use drugs and others who don't deserve them. Liberals are weak like Rush says, but I'm strong, which is why I'm a progressive. Progressives are pretty much like liberals if the voter is a liberal but nothing at all like liberals if the voter dislikes liberals.

[Sapere aude]

36. No real progressive could have supported a war based on lies.

No real progressive would have believed the lies when consideration of the source is taken into account.

No I don't accept the idea that you are a progressive and supported the war.

[ProudDad]

49. No real Progressive DID support that war

And I believe the OP is :sarcasm: <Hillary>

[IndianaJones]

37. what does it mean to be pro drug war? nt.

[mdmc]

40. If you don't oppose the drug war, then you are for it.

:toast:

[leftofthedial]

38. have you suffered any sort of head injury recently?

[mdmc]

41. nope

:kick:

[PassingFair]

42. Howard Dean represents the Progressives in the Democratic Party.

You will have to find another classification for yourself.

Walmart, Murdock and the DLC?

Common decency prevents me from supplying you with
a list from which to choose.

[CANDO]

44. Jeopardy --- Who is Hillary Clinton!

Dingdingdingding!!! Correct!

[Hippo_Tron]

47. The drug war is a very unfortunate political reality

And it will likely take decades to overturn. At least a Democratic President will push for medical marijuana and treatment over prison time. A Republican President will push for another round of mandatory minimums.

[ProudDad]

50. Why?

"The drug war is a very unfortunate political reality"

Cowardly Dems mayhaps?

[Hippo_Tron]

52. Years and years of right wing persuasion, starting mostly with Raygun

The same kind of persuasion that makes middle class people believe that they don't have more money because of "welfare queens" and that they will have to pay the "death tax".

[calteacherguy]

51. You forgot the sarcasm tag...or have you been possesed by a DLC demon? nt

[mdmc]

53. kick