What did John Edwards do for Poverty during his term in the Senate?

[TeamJordan23]

I am not trying to start any flaming. I am just unaware of his contribution to the poverty issue while he was a senator. The reason for this is because I just don't know enough about his Senate record. Any input would be helpful.

Thanks.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

1. Apparently this is the new Team Obama talking point (Edwards is a hypocrite)

Methun read the memo before you did. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3412137&mesg_id=3412137

[bling bling]

2. Too bad the first thread never actually got an answer. And especially not from you.

Your obnoxious zipping around here and there and everywhere with nonsense distraction posts did nothing but make it a chaotic mess to try and sort through. And that was your whole mission.

I'm glad this question was asked again. Maybe someone who is a serious Edwards supporter will respond.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

5. It was a "when did Edwards stop beating his wife?" thread

You were there tarring Edwards as a hypocrite. Quit pretending that you had some noble purpose in that thread. :eyes:

[bling bling]

10. No. It was a simple question. And you did everything but answer it. How typical. n/t

[draft_mario_cuomo]

11. Simple question? So why didn't you answer the same question about Obama and Iraq?

I posted that thread to demonstrate the absurdity if your precious thread. Apparently you agree with me--but only when the same tactics are used regarding Obama.

[Catchawave]

8. You're certainly not helping Obama much here, are you?

Cut the crap.

[bling bling]

9. Oh whats this, bring up Obama's name to avoid the topic of Edwards. Shocker. n/t

[draft_mario_cuomo]

12. Catchawave is one the finest contributors to DU...

You are naive if you expect Edwards fans to respond to a "When did Edwards stop beating his wife?" thread--just as Obama fans like you did not respond to the similar thread about Obama...

[bling bling]

22. Wrong.

I really don't EVER expect the usual Edwards fans such as yourself to respond to a legitimate question about Edwards anymore. Few ever do. Most of you hijack the thread with "stop attacking Edwards" retorts. It's like ya'll got together and decided this would be your strategy or something. And you got some of the Clinton people on board too to just deflect any questions about your candidates and change the subject to Obama.

Disclaimer: This is not true of all Edwards supporters. But it is absolutely true of some of them.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

25. So why didn't you respond to my legitimate question about Obama?

Pot, meet kettle...

The vast majority of Clinton fans here are fantastic. Even when you criticize their candidate they are civil.

[TeamJordan23]

3. Thanks. I was unaware of a similar previous thread. nm

[draft_mario_cuomo]

6. You post before reading the front page here?

And you just happened to finally ask this question on the same day that another Obama fan did? Sure...

I am sure Camp Obama is proud. ;)

[TeamJordan23]

13. Go ahead and accuse me of doing it on purpose. I guess i must have missed it.

But I looked at the old thread and did not see any major initiatives started by Edwards during his term in the Senate. Maybe, I missed something.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

15. You've been posting here since Deember of 2006

And this question never popped in your head before? It just happened to come to mind on the same day another Obama fan posted the same thread, which was populated by Team Obama attacking Edwards? Yeah, just one big coincidence... :eyes:

p.s. So apparently this is what they teach at Camp Obama?

[TeamJordan23]

17. and today was the day for you to question Obama's record on the Iraq War. talk about Irony. nm

[draft_mario_cuomo]

19. Yes, I posted that thread to expose the hollowness of the Team Obama smear thread on Edwards nt

[jefferson_dem]

Team Obama?

Why so quick to reach for the conspiracy defense? Edwards is not the only candidate to be accused of hypocrisy.

It shouldn't be difficult to promote Edwards' record that establishes credibility on the poverty issue, eh.

[jefferson_dem]

28. Self delete. Sorry.

[ulysses]

4. no shit.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

7. Ah, the "smallness" of the "new kind of politics" nt

[TeamJordan23]

27. Yeah, run to that Team Clinton phrase line. This is about differnces in policy and judgment. nm

[wyldwolf]

14. What could a new Senator in a minority party do about poverty?

The question reveals something more than just a subtle swipe against John Edwards.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

16. Exactly. Thank you for your refreshing honesty

Even though you are not supporting Edwards you had the decency to call the OP (who was beaten to this by another member of the same team that attacks your candidate each day) on what he is doing.

[TeamJordan23]

18. How about some speeches, awareness. You have the platform as a Senator to make the public aware. nm

[draft_mario_cuomo]

20. Is that why Obama was silent on Iraq during the first 11 months of his senate term?

[TeamJordan23]

21. Nice try, everyone knew where Obama stood on the issue in 2002. nm

[draft_mario_cuomo]

23. Yes, and when he became a national figure he joined the Hillary wing of the party on Iraq

He sided with Hillary, not Murtha and his call for ending the war in 2005; he sided with Hillary and co. on Kerry-Feingold in 2006 (which would have ended the war this month); and he sided with Hillary and co. on not cutting off funding for the escalation in 2007. Obama is Hillary-lite. Hillary without the experience. Why not go for the real McCoy and not the new imitation?

[TeamJordan23]

24. Murtha was for immediate pullout. Obama was not for that. Sorry, but he had the deal with the mess

that many of the senators pushed this country into.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

26. Yes, like Hillary

So much for the "anti-war crusader" myth...

[TeamJordan23]

29. Yeah, I don't see Obama running around claiming to be an anti-war crusader.

It is stupid policy and judgment to just leave Iraq immediately. We do have some moral responsibility to the Iraqi people. Obama is not running around like Cindy Shaheen and calling for immediate withdrawl out of Iraq. But you must be unintelligent if you cannot realize the difference between Obama and HRC/Edwards on the Iraq War. Obama was against the WAR from the START. If we had more Obamas in the Senate in 2002, or more people with his judgment and courage, we WOULD HAVE NEVER GONE INTO IRAQ.

It really is not a difficult concept. If kids can pick it up, I'm sure you can also.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

32. He is marketed as such when he is actually closer to Hillary than to Kucinich

==It is stupid policy and judgment to just leave Iraq immediately. We do have some moral responsibility to the Iraqi people.==

The Iraqis wanted us out then. Apparently they did not see this sacred "moral responsibility." Murtha was right in 2005 but Hillary, Obama, and Obama's mentor Lieberman sided against him.

==if you cannot realize the difference between Obama and HRC/Edwards on the Iraq War. Obama was against the WAR from the START.==

He was not in the senate in 2002. Once he got in the senate he became Hillary-lite.

==If we had more Obamas in the Senate in 2002, or more people with his judgment and courage, we WOULD HAVE NEVER GONE INTO IRAQ.==

Obama himself has said he doesn't know how he would have voted if he was in Congress at the time. In other words, he doesn't know what he would have done if he actually had to vote instead of merely grandstand for David Axlerod.

[jefferson_dem]

33. It's only difficult for those who are not paying attention or want to mischaracterize his position.

Obama has never supported a precipitous withdrawal from Iraq at whatever cost. He's framed his position in terms of the need to be as careful and responsible in getting out of iraq as we were careless getting in.

There are all sorts of positions papers and speeches on this very issue for those who are really interested.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

34. Where?

Why did he oppose Kerry-Feingold? What does not funding the escalation have to do with getting out responsibly? The only way it can be tied to getting out responsibly is if you believe in the concept of the escalation. Obama spoke out against the escalation but then voted for it by voting to fund it.

[jefferson_dem]

36. As i said, Obama's position is clear. Edwards is the subject of the OP here.

I guess you've chosen to deflect rather than address the OP directly. That's ok.

[bling bling]

35. Or those who take any question about Edwards and turn it into an Obama thread.

Look at how DMC has managed to turn this question about Edwards and poverty into a thread where Obama supporters have to defend Obama's position on Iraq.

It's ludicrous. I'm just calling him out on it.

[smalll]

30. I'm guessing he "gave a stirring speech" or

did a good job of "acting like he gives a damn" or perhaps he "touted" a plan or something. Yep, touting: I imagine he's pretty good at that.

[otisjf24]

31. Children, please

Behave yourselves.

I am new to this site, and I am sure that there are others that are like me, looking for answers. If there isn't a good answer, say so. I would rather someone else that knows speak up than listen to this pointless bickering. You make yourselves look bad.

Furthermore, you make the candidate that DOES win the Democratic nomination look like they have false support by people doing nothing more than towing party lines.

Faux News has already spotted this site, how long before they point out the in-fighting and bickering on here? It's going to be difficult to argue black and white typed responses, comments, insults and the like.

Otis

[Skittles]

37. LOL

do you think we give a flying FUCK what FOX NEWS thinks of us?

[lynne]

38. Take a look at his Senate voting record -

- which can be found HERE > http://votesmart.org/voting_category.php?can_id=21107