Rasmusen poll: On diplomacy, 42% of Americans agree with Obama. 34% agree with Clinton

[antiimperialist]

Rasmussen has conducted a poll (July 25-26) asking respondents whether or not they believe a US president should meet leaders of countries such as NK, Iran, etc. without pre-conditions. These are the results:

Forty-two percent (42%) of Americans say that the next President should meet with the heads of nations such as Iran, Syria, and North Korea without setting any preconditions. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 34% disagree while 24% are not sure.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/public_divided_as_to_whether_new_president_should_meet_with_heads_of_iran_syria_north_korea

[draft_mario_cuomo]

1. Yes, but Obama has lost ground in Rass' poll since the debate

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3413145&mesg_id=3413145

[antiimperialist]

2. But not because of diplomacy

Which has been a hot cause for debate in this forum. Whatever gains Clinton made are due to other issues where she may have excelled during the debate.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

3. But why did Obama go down? It isn'[t just that HRC gained

I think people agree with his debate position but it reinforced the perception, whether fair or unfair, that he is too inexperienced and that, plus his attacks on HRC, which damaged his "different kind of politician" image, led to him declining in the polls.

[antiimperialist]

4. I have no idea

Polls can be confusing. Don't be surprised if Obama gains 5% tomorrow. Rasmussen has had inexplainable big swings from one day to the other.

[snowbear]

7. When the frost is on the pumpkin... we'll start paying attention to polls..

Until then dear buddy, I'm afraid it's just you, Elmer, and Chris Matthews who give a rat's ass..

[draft_mario_cuomo]

11. The polls show trends. The trend after the debate is Obama down, Clinton up

That suggests Clinton won the battle.

[TeamJordan23]

12. Can you back that up with non-Rasmussen polls?

[snowbear]

16. He couldn't back it up with a John Deere Backloader...

...

"meep, meep, meep, meep"

[draft_mario_cuomo]

20. I posted a thread on it. You were in that thread

:)

[draft_mario_cuomo]

18. No other national poll has been conducted since the debate

It will be interesting to see if other polls show the same trend Rass did.

[antiimperialist]

22. Which battle?

Nothing suggests Clinton won the diplomacy battle. The Survey USA poll and the Rasmussen tracking poll suggest that Clinton won the debate in general. We in the blogosphere are inundated with "Obama vs. Clinton on diplomacy" threads, which is not necessarily the case outside the internet. People care about other things; but focusing specifically on the diplomacy question, Obama is favored by more people than Hillary. Again, this seems not to be a very important issue in the minds of Americans.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

23. Great point

==The Survey USA poll and the Rasmussen tracking poll suggest that Clinton won the debate in general. We in the blogosphere are inundated with "Obama vs. Clinton on diplomacy" threads, which is not necessarily the case outside the internet.==

I don't think HRC won the diplomacy battle. She won the PR war thanks to Obama's attacks on her (especially the "Bush-Cheney-lite" one). It is almost as if she set a trap for him. Attack him, provoke a response, continue the flap and weaken his "different kind of politician" image, which is key to his appeal. However, what you say may be true. The poll numbers may just reflect HRC gaining and BO losing because of how their overall debate performances were viewed.

[TeamJordan23]

25. Most undecided focus groups picked Obama =). nm

[TeamJordan23]

6. You have started liking polls a lot more recently, didn't you think they were meaningless before? nm

[draft_mario_cuomo]

13. No. I've said the same thing about polls from the beginning

And unlike some I do not go into denial about the polls when my candidate does poorly in a poll. Edwards tanked in NH. I accepted it. Some others cannot accept it when their candidate tanks in an important early state. ;)

[TeamJordan23]

5. 55% to 22%, Dems back Obama on this. nm

[GreenTea]

8. These are our only candidates??? Fucking media!! Shoving these two

down my throat night and day....very little mention of the other Dem candidates because of this republican media bullshit....more than half the people don't even know who else is running...and the republicans want to keep it that way...They want a women or an African-American to run, ideally, the regups wet dream would be both on the same ticket...Prez & VP!

I wish the other Dem candidates would get some right-wing corporate media exposure so people would know more about others issues and be more informed about whom they are voting for and not just being served up to them by the corporate media, like apple pie, (media's got many believing they are making up their own informed choice, right, and ask ANY of the supporters of the two what the other Dem candidates besides their Hillary or Obama, platforms are, and I guarantee you most don't have a clue and couldn't tell you anything what each stands for, simply because they are being bombarded by the mainstream media every day...and they refuse to believe it or refuse to even cop to it). They are indeed being fed by the same republican corporate media, day after day after day...how much money has Obama made today, who's sending Hillary money....approval polls for Hillary and Obama...which one is on top which of the two is ahead Where each one took a dump today, etc. etc. etc.....There are other true progressive liberal ideas & platforms just being ignored in this Dem race, while the republican owned corporate media keeps pushing their two darlings every chance they get.

[antiimperialist]

14. That's not true. They mention Edwards

Every time he gets a haircut.

[GreenTea]

15. Your right...but never Bush's $12 thousand dollar suits! Or his HUGE spread in Crawford never

get mentioned or other candidates private jets, limos, tens of millions of dollar in donations, never seem to get the same attention. The republicans want Edwards out of the race ASAP!!

[illinoisprogressive]

9. Obama is getting way too much backing by the people on this that he is not losing ground.

[antiimperialist]

10. Most Democrats don't even know Obama and Clinton's position on diplomacy

According to the poll, only 34% of Democrats know that Obama is willing to meet with these leaders without pre-condition. What's even more surprising, 14% of Democrats mistakenly believe Clinton is who made such commitment.
Twenty-four percent (24%) know that Clinton refused to commit to such meetings while 7% believe that Obama was the candidate to do so.

This suggests that Clinton's widened lead in the latest tracking poll was probably not influenced by the diplomacy controversy.

[Hobbs]

17. He's losing ground

For a number of reasons. You can only sell hope for a short time and then you have to get specific.

Also he has gone negative. Calling the Clintons Bushlite is a no no.

[antiimperialist]

19. Bush went negative on Kerry and McCain and beat both

Believe me. Going negative is not a factor.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

21. It is if part of your appeal is being above negative attacks nt

[TeamJordan23]

24. Can you back that up, Hobbs?

[TeamJordan23]

26. When are highlighting differences in policy and judgment negative? nm