Even with Rudy, NY should be in the Democrats' bag

[rinsd]

"Among Democratic primary voters, Senator Hillary Clinton extended her commanding lead, garnering 48 percent in a primary match-up. Senator Barack Obama finished second with 14 percent. Among Republican primary voters, Rudy Giuliani still has a nearly three-to-one edge over Senator John McCain, 40-13 percent. Former Senator Fred Thompson, still undeclared, gets 11 percent.

In head-to-head general elections matchups, Clinton stretched her lead to 21 points over Giuliani and 34 points over Thompson. Obama has an 11 point lead over Giuliani and 31 points over Thompson.

"If Mayor Mike gets in the race as an independent, Hillary maintains a solid lead but falls below 50 percent," Greenberg said. "She has a comfortable 18 point lead (44-26 percent) over Rudy but Bloomberg is only four points behind Rudy, and beats him among Democrats and independents, as well as in New York City. With six months to the New York primary, the race is Hillary’s to lose.""

http://www.siena.edu/level2col.aspx?menu_id=562&id=7417

[baldguy]

1. ESPECIALLY with Rudy - NYers aren't stupid.

[jefferson_dem]

2. Our election victory starts with the two pillars of NY and CA...

Now...if we could only pry FL away from the Dark Side we would really be in business.

[aquart]

3. "Even with Rudy"?

Rudy can't carry NYC. NYC spits on Rudy.

[rinsd]

4. I meant as the home state candidate.

Obama now beats him soundly in NY too.

[saltpoint]

5. Dems carry New York state in 08 by a comfortable margin,

whether Rudy's the Thug nom or not.

BushCo strove to take the Empire State from the blue team but as the phrase goes, the Empire strikes back.

Democrats hold New York.

[saltpoint]

6. No matter who the Democratic nominee is, I don't believe Giuliani has

a chance.

In New York especially.

I expect the far-right GOP primary base to winnow America's Mayor out of the Republican pack. Mitt Romney is leading at the moment in both Iowa and New Hampshire.

If Giuliani isn't in the winner's circle in at least one of those 2 early states, I'm not seeing him surviving after February.