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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 01:42 PM
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Why the heck do some alleged candidate supporters enter threads dedicated to other candidates
and bash the candidate about whom the thread was started? Do they seriously think going from thread to thread bashing a candidate enhances the credibility of their chosen one? Why can't some posters just build up their own candidates instead of tearing down other Democrats? I just don't "get it"I understand "debating" the pluses and minus and comparing candidates but the bashing of opponents has gotten ridiculous! One of these people will be our nominee and some want to do the GOP's job for them and provide talking points!
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 01:46 PM
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1. couldn't that be said of all subjects? wouldn't that be a boring message board? nt
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patricia92243 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 01:46 PM
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2. I don't remember it being this bad during the last one. I wonder if we just have a lot more trolls
now than we had then. The good news is that are not allowed to do this after we get our nominee. Then they will have to take their knitting and go home.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 01:47 PM
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3. Because they can.
If you want this to be an echo chamber, I got news for ya, despite the freeper's myths, it ain't and never will be. Biggest failing of dems, we don't follow like sheep, we think for ourselves. Our greatest quality, we don't follow like sheep, we think for ourselves.

If there isn't one, start a group for your candidate and keep your discussions there if you don't want dissent or challenge.

It will only get worse before it gets better, the primaries are quite a bit away you know.

Peace :hi:

:hug:
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Az Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 01:47 PM
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4. Because of human nature
We learn by observing others and copying their actions and ideas. When we want to educate others (and we do) we seek them out and try to exchange our way of thinking with them via dialog and demonstration. There are social taboos against doing so uninvited. But sometimes the urgency of one's position overrides such social barriers and they attempt to impose their views out of a sense of need and a belief that there is some information that the other does not have. Sometimes the reaction to this crossing of boundaries can result in anger and resentment from the recipient and this causes an escalation of anger and attempts to force ideas onto one another. At this point however the ability to internalize the concepts of the other becomes occluded and the focus shifts from ideas to emotions and that leads to aggression and attempts to harm one another in order to return the sense of anger and frustration that one feels from such situations.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 01:57 PM
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5. I don't know
I think it reflects poorly on the person posting. When I go to a thread about someone other than my candidate, I try to say something positive about the candidate being discussed, or ask a question. I hope that I have never bashed a candidate (other than Republican ones!) , but I apologize if I did. It is not constructive.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 01:59 PM
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6. Hey, I don't have a candidate to push. But even if I did, ...
some candidates just deserve to be bashed.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 02:05 PM
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7. Do you AGREE with ALL of the positions of your chosen candidate?
Edited on Mon Jul-30-07 02:07 PM by Double T
Probably not, just like many others here on DU and in the Democratic Party. I think it is important to debate and discuss the good, bad and sometimes ugly positions of ALL the potential Presidential candidates because NONE of them are perfect and their positions on some of the issues are tough to accept. The ONLY thing that matters after the Primary Elections is that 'WE' support the Democratic Party's Candidate for President; it is past time for the neocon rethugs to go.
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 02:11 PM
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8. maybe people are more interested in discussion
Edited on Mon Jul-30-07 02:15 PM by AtomicKitten
than they are in cheerleading ...

:shrug:
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 05:39 PM
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12. Discussion and comparison are fine! It is the "bashing' and spouting the RW viewpoint I don't like.
We SHOULD be comparing candidates at this point in the season.Comparing is one thing .Bashing is another!
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tnlurker Donating Member (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 02:11 PM
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9. Human nature is to knock other down
In a way to lift yourself up.
People naturally gravitate to knocking the other candidate as a way to push their candidates stature.

In my opinion if you have to knock down the other person to lift yourself up then your ideas are not as good as they could be.

But this seems to be the nature of American Presidential Politics today.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 02:21 PM
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10. What's wrong with presenting an opposing viewpoint? If everyone's
lurving on Hillary, Edwards, or Obama, and you don't think they should be, why not say so? If I start a thread on someone or on some topic or opinion, I automatically expect some opposition. How will we win against Repubs if we're too weak to accommodate a variety of opinions in our own ranks?
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 05:38 PM
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11. I see your point but I just find it dispiriting to see some follow candidate supporters from thread
bashing certain candidates.I am in favor of debate.I am in favor of comparing candidates .But why do some have to bash? That is not constructive.Spewing RW talking points about any of our candidates is not constructive!
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Milo_Bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 05:50 PM
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13. Because a thread is a discussion.
If someone posts a thread on a candidate specific forum (aka cheering section), then, you are right, no one should storm in and disturb them.

However, when someone posts some propoganda piece in the political discussion forum about a specific candidate, they better be ready for comments both positive and negative. If they cannot defend their candidates position, they should return to the cheering section where no one with bother them with facts.

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