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ariesgem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 03:34 PM
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Clinton woos the outsourcers feared by U.S. workers
BUFFALO, N.Y. — To many labor unions and high-tech workers, the Indian giant Tata Consultancy Services is a serious threat — a company that has helped move U.S. jobs to India while sending thousands of foreign workers on temporary visas to the United States.

So when Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) came to this struggling city to announce some good news, her choice of partners was something of a surprise.

Joining Tata Consultancy's chief executive at a downtown hotel, Clinton announced that the company would open a software development office in Buffalo and form a research partnership with a local university. Tata told a newspaper that it might hire as many as 200 people.

The 2003 announcement had clear benefits for the senator and the company: Tata received good press, and Clinton burnished her credentials as a champion for New York's depressed upstate region.

But less noticed was how the event signaled that Clinton, who portrays herself as a fighter for American workers, had aligned herself with Indian American business leaders and Indian companies feared by the labor movement.

Now, as Clinton runs for president, that signal is echoing loudly.



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Some U.S. worker organizations say Clinton cannot claim to support American workers if she is also helping Indian outsourcing companies and proposing more worker visas.

"It's just two-faced," said John Miano, founder of the Programmers Guild, one of several high-tech worker organizations that have sprung up as outsourcing has expanded. "We see her undermining U.S. workers and helping the offshoring business, and then she comes back to the U.S. and says, 'I'm concerned about your pain.' "


http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-buffalo30jul30,0,6816044.story?coll=la-home-center
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 03:36 PM
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1. Well, I know I'd like an answer to that.
Outsourcing is not a small issue.
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Jensen Donating Member (866 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 03:41 PM
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3. It is not a small issue and a growing issue as Americans loose good paying jobs
for service type jobs that only pay minimum wages and no medical benefits!
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 03:41 PM
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2. This kind of issue is the greatest reason for NOT supporting HRC........
and her quest for the Democratic Presidential Nomination. Remember WHO promoted and installed the NAFTA disaster. Move on to other candidates!
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 03:46 PM
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4. She Supported Permanent 'Free' Trade Status For China
And NAFTA, of course.

She votes in favor of Labor for lots of little things - then she backs the Predator Class on the enormous issues - so she can say that she supports Labor on most votes, but she can also tell the Predator Class that she did what they really needed.

Nice.
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Rydz777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 04:09 PM
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6. This is a dilemma for me, because I think she will get the
nomination and I will vote for her (given whatever Republican alternative.) However, I agree with you completely in your analysis. NAFTA and the other "free trade" pacts are the acid test for politicians as to whether they really care about the fate of American workers.
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 04:21 PM
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7. This Is Why We Have To Work Fiercely For The Primaries
This is really make-or-break time.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 06:21 PM
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10. How did she support NAFTA?
"She votes in favor of Labor for lots of little things"

Her ratings from labor organizations are good.

2006 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Service Employees International Union 94 percent in 2006.

2005-2006 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers 75 percent in 2005-2006.

2005 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the International Brotherhood of Boilermakers 100 percent in 2005.

2005 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Service Employees International Union 100 percent in 2005.

2005 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the United Auto Workers 93 percent in 2005.

2005 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the AFL-CIO 93 percent in 2005.

2005 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the United Electrical Radio and Machine Workers 84 percent in 2005.

2005 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Worker 100 percent in 2005.

2005 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the American Federation of State, County & Municipal Employees 88 percent in 2005.

2005 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the American Federation of Government Employees 83 percent in 2005.

2004 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the AFL-CIO 100 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the American Postal Workers Union 100 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the United Auto Workers 110 percent in 2004.

2004 On the votes that the International Brotherhood of Boilermakers considered to be the most important in 2004, Senator Clinton voted their preferred position 100 percent of the time.

2004 On the votes that the Service Employees International Union considered to be the most important in 2004, Senator Clinton voted their preferred position 100 percent of the time.

2004 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Communications Workers of America 100 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the United Electrical Radio and Machine Workers 33 percent in 2004.

2004 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Worker 100 percent in 2004.

2003-2004 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the American Federation of State, County & Municipal Employees 100 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 On the votes that the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers considered to be the most important in 2003-2004, Senator Clinton voted their preferred position 79 percent of the time.

2003-2004 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Bakery, Confectionary, Tobacco Workers and Grain Millers Int 62 percent in 2003-2004.

2003-2004 On the votes that the National Association for the Self-Employed considered to be the most important in 2003-2004, Senator Clinton voted their preferred position 0 percent of the time.

2003-2004 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the American Federation of Government Employees 100 percent in 2003-2004.

2003 On the votes that the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers considered to be the most important in 2003, Senator Clinton voted their preferred position 73 percent of the time.

2003 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Transportation Communications Union 100 percent in 2003.

2003 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the United Auto Workers 92 percent in 2003. Those who supported or provided other assistance in connection with a UAW organizing drive are given an extra 10% bonus.

2003 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the AFL-CIO 85 percent in 2003.

2003 On the votes that the International Brotherhood of Boilermakers considered to be the most important in 2003, Senator Clinton voted their preferred position 71 percent of the time.

2003 On the votes that the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Worker considered to be the most important in 2003, Senator Clinton voted their preferred position 100 percent of the time.

2003 On the votes that the United Electrical Radio and Machine Workers considered to be the most important in 2003, Senator Clinton voted their preferred position 67 percent of the time.

2003 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the American Federation of State, County & Municipal Employees 100 percent in 2003.

2003 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Workplace Fairness 80 percent in 2003.

2003 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Service Employees International Union 100 percent in 2003.

2002 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Transportation Communications Union 100 percent in 2002.

2002 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the American Federation of Government Employees 100 percent in 2002.

2002 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the American Federation of State, County & Municipal Employees 100 percent in 2002.

2002 On the votes that the International Brotherhood of Boilermakers considered to be the most important in 2002, Senator Clinton voted their preferred position 50 percent of the time.

2002 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Communications Workers of America 86 percent in 2002.

2002 On the votes that the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Worker considered to be the most important in 2002, Senator Clinton voted their preferred position 100 percent of the time.

2002 On the votes that the United Electrical Radio and Machine Workers considered to be the most important in 2002, Senator Clinton voted their preferred position 72 percent of the time.

2002 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the AFL-CIO 92 percent in 2002.

2002 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the United Auto Workers 102 percent in 2002.

2002 On the votes that the Service Employees International Union considered to be the most important in 2002, Senator Clinton voted their preferred position 100 percent of the time.

2002 On the votes that the Pennsylvania State Nurses Association considered to be the most important in 2002, Senator Clinton voted their preferred position 100 percent of the time.

2001-2002 On the votes that the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers considered to be the most important in 2001-2002, Senator Clinton voted their preferred position 92 percent of the time.

2001-2002 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the American Postal Workers Union 100 percent in 2001-2002.

2001 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the American Federation of State, County & Municipal Employees 100 percent in 2001.

2001 On the votes that the International Brotherhood of Boilermakers considered to be the most important in 2001, Senator Clinton voted their preferred position 100 percent of the time.

2001 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the Transportation Communications Union 100 percent in 2001.

2001 On the votes that the United Electrical Radio and Machine Workers considered to be the most important in 2001, Senator Clinton voted their preferred position 72 percent of the time.

2001 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the American Federation of Government Employees 100 percent in 2001.

2001 On the votes that the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Worker considered to be the most important in 2001, Senator Clinton voted their preferred position 100 percent of the time.

2001 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the United Auto Workers 93 percent in 2001.

2001 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the United Food & Commercial Workers 100 percent in 2001.

2001 On the votes that the Service Employees International Union considered to be the most important in 2001, Senator Clinton voted their preferred position 100 percent of the time.

2001 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the AFL-CIO 100 percent in 2001.

2001 Senator Clinton supported the interests of the American Benefits Council 0 percent in 2001.
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 04:08 PM
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5. Just say TaTa to your jobs, eh ? nt
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bellasgrams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 05:07 PM
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8. You guys sure add fuel to the fire for the newcons n/t
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Larkspur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 06:13 PM
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9. No, it's Hillary adding fuel to the fire for the neocons
They'll slam her for this even though they support outsourcing too.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-30-07 06:36 PM
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11. Well then,if she's nominated we'll have to make sure the people know their positions as well.
:)
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