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Ethelk2044 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 12:43 PM
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HILL SUFFERS 2 BARACK POLL-AXES


http://www.nypost.com/seven/08012007/news/nationalnews/hill_suffers_2_barack_poll_axes_nationalnews_charles_hurt__bureau_chief.htm

August 1, 2007 -- WASHINGTON - Hillary Rodham Clinton has lost her commanding lead in two key states to Barack Obama, according to polls released yesterday.

In the past month, Obama has erased a 9-point deficit in New Hampshire to tie Clinton, and jumped 12 points in South Carolina to overtake her, according to the Democratic presidential polls by American Research Group.

On the Republican side, Rudy Giuliani's political fortunes have been markedly better, the polls show.

As support for Arizona Sen. John McCain continues to crumble, the former mayor has jumped 8 points in New Hampshire into a virtual tie with Mitt Romney. He has climbed 6 points in South Carolina.

Pollster Dick Bennett, who conducted the surveys, blamed Clinton's woes on her skirmish last week with Obama over comments he made during their latest debate.

Clinton had blasted Obama for agreeing to meet - without any preconditions - some of the world's most dangerous dictators during his first year in the White House. It showed Obama is "naive" and "inexperienced," Clinton said.

Obama fired back that her foreign policy is little different than President Bush's and Vice President Dick Cheney's. He called it "Bush-Cheney light" and that's what Democratic voters remembered, Bennett said.

"It really backfired on Clinton," said Bennett, citing interviews with voters that his firm polled.

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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 12:44 PM
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1. All of this may be re-nigged since the recent Pakistan thing...
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 12:47 PM
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3. I think the Pakistan stuff, cleavage, haircuts
and most other stories are bogus at this point.
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HERVEPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 12:54 PM
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5. I'm hoping that spelling in your Subject Line is accidental
but even if it is, it's an incorrect use of the word
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 12:59 PM
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6. What word is that? re-nigged? nt.
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ripple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 01:01 PM
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8. It has a similar meaning to 'reversed'
I don't think it's spelled that way, though. I think it's reneged.
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 02:29 PM
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10. it is reneged. and it means to break a promise.
Edited on Thu Aug-02-07 02:30 PM by enki23
also, and probably more commonly, it means to break a rule requiring you to follow suit while playing cards.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 03:39 PM
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15. Hum, MSM is playing the clip of what he said so
mainstream opinion won't be a warped as it has become. On NPR they played his clip and then played Hillary agreeing with him right afterward.

The fact is most Americans agree that if we have actionable intelligence on Osama that we should take care of him then and there.
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 04:36 PM
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18. Sense when does Pakistan have a say on Presidential candidates
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 12:45 PM
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2. Wait, someone at DU said "Obama is done"
So it must be true.
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NoodleBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 12:53 PM
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4. duh, don't you know all the hardworking activists who constantly post on DU are the backbone of the
grassroots Democratic Party?

they're the only reason we win anything, because whining on the internet helps out so much more than actual canvassing or phone banking, and the strategies they come up with are immediately implemented by the DNC.
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ripple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 12:59 PM
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7. LOL!
:spank:
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 03:02 PM
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12. Actually that was a Kos diary by an Obama supporter.
But hey what good is a fact when you can hurl and insult.
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 03:19 PM
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13. Someone posted that at DU.
But hey what good is a fact when you can hurl and insult.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 03:23 PM
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14. Your post: Wait, someone at DU said "Obama is done"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3421219

Subject line: Obama, It's Over (Daily kos diary)

"I thought this was a typical response I have seen while perusing some blogs. Evidently some people on the left are very upset about Obama's hawkish remarks.

This guy evidently was an Obama supporter but this seemed to have turned him away from Obama.

I don't agree with most of the diary but I found it interesting to read."

Why are people just incapable of telling the truth here when it comes to Hillary Clinton.

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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 03:41 PM
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16. You should look at yourself first.
Edited on Thu Aug-02-07 03:42 PM by Bleachers7
First of all, I didn't say "Obama, It's over". Second, the difference between "is done" and "it's over" is slim. Third, what I said was posted on DU.

You ask: "Why are people just incapable of telling the truth here when it comes to Hillary Clinton."

You should ask yourself first.

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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 04:29 PM
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17. Who is now a BIDEN supporter.
:hi:
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 01:38 PM
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9. IHNC, I just love the word "pollaxe." (nt)
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-02-07 02:38 PM
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11. Good stuff
We also need to hammer away at Tavis Smiley. Bill Bradley was on his program last night and praising Barack. What does Tavis do? Trots out the 'where's the meat' line. I sent an email and links to the urban speech and foreign policy speech, but I think some more folks need to school him.
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