Many DUers following MSM's lead!

[superkia]

I havent been on this forum long but have quickly noticed the influence the MSM can have here. My first impression was a great one of the site, I noticed many people kind of banned together to help get the word out about the agenda driven media, corrupt politicians and the corporate ran government. It all seemed great that there was a place where all these people come together to help the Democratic party as well as the American publics future and freedoms.

Every since the MSM started flooding the television with coverage of our Democratic candidates discussing each others campaigns while not covering much of anything with importance pertaining to the Republican party, I have since noticed the increase in negative posts about our candidates? Now I realize its mainly Clinton and Obama that have been focused on but I sit here and wonder why? Most coverage I see, talks of negative things with the two I named above, they throw a small mention of Edwards, totally ignore someone like Kucinich who has been constantly talking about corrupt government and the tax scam which I would think would be important to DUers, and they always seem to end with some kind twist like but its inevitable that Clinton with her experience will most likely take it. ( That of course is for all the so called sheeple at home that will not look into anything but say Im voting for this person because of their experience)

Heres the fun part. First off, I do beleive the MSM is biased and controlled by an agenda, a not so good agenda at that. So before I even found the site, I was already trying to do my research to find out why Clinton was almost all I really saw ran on the news for the most part. Now I am trying to figure out why they would continue to show the constant replays of the Democratic party destroying each other while forgetting that any Republicans are even running? But now I see it, they have already got into our heads as we all sit and pick apart each others candidate.

If they can persuade us to destroy each other, I dont see how the average American looking to Fox could possibly have a chance.

If you also believe the MSM is biased, please keep that in mind when they run this kind of coverage, they have an agenda,what is it?

Instead of posting about what a candidate MIGHT do IF elected, post up why you support who, what it is they are for or against, help people like myself look at this site and come away with something that may help me vote FOR a candidate instead of why I shouldnt vote for any of the Democrats because from what Im seeing here with the bashing lately. 30% like Obama, 30% like Clinton, 25% like Edwards and 15% like the rest and I say the rest because their names are mentioned only 15% of the time.

I myself think Kucinich would be my vote as of now because he is STRONGLY against two things I am, corruption in Government and the tax scam.

Tell me what you think, who do you like or dislike and why? You can make positive comments about as many candidates as you like, it doesnt have to be only one. Remember, this is a free country for now, so speak while you can.

[radfringe]

1. too dang is my candidate

TOO DANG EARLY to decide.

[Deja Q]

2. By and large they have no agenda; they just point the cameras at the current popular freak show.

Indeed, so many look at the MSM here and call it "right wing"... go to a right-wing site and they spit on MSM, calling it "left wing"...

Though we'll all agree, FOX is right wing, but they're a category all to themselves.

Maybe there is some sort of conspiracy, but it's probably one that's done by the MSM to preserve their influence and profitability. Occam's razor.

[hijinx87]

5. the MSM will do whatever . . .

increases newspaper circulation, or TV ratings.

they (it?) really are quite predictable. but they (it?) can
be managed.

[MrRobotsHolyOrders]

17. Well

Reporters don't live on pixie dust, and when your circulation drops consistently every year, the advertisers pay you less, and you lose your job.

[AndyTiedye]

8. The MSM Absolutely Has an Agenda That is More Important to them than Ratings!

The war isn't popular. Bush** isn't popular. So why does the MSM continue to support the war and Bush**?

Why do they sacrifice the great ratings they could get by covering all the Repiglickin scandals?
Surely that would attract more viewers than "lost blond bimbo of the week".

Look to the parent corporations of the media companies.
General Electric makes billions off of the war. It may not be popular with their viewers, but it is popular with their CEO.
General Eectric purchased RCA so they could control the contents of NBC news. Jack Welch (then-CEO of GE) said so.

[MrRobotsHolyOrders]

15. No, they don't.

News divisions across the country are being cut because they're not profitable enough. If you're somehow under the assumption that "Repiglickin" (Clever!) scandals (like Ted Steven's accounting woes! sexy!) sell better than Lindsay Lohan's coke problem, then you don't know what you're talking about.

Most journalists would love to do hard news, and they could, if people cared. If you want to blame someone blame the consumer market.

[AndyTiedye]

19. Lobbyists Buying PROSTITUTES for Pols At the WATERGATE

Surely they should have been able to get some mileage on that. But for some reason they weren't interested.

[MrRobotsHolyOrders]

14. Exactly what I wanted to say.

And with a picture of one of the Golden Girls.

Fantastic.

[billyoc]

3. You're absolutely right.

You haven't been on this forum long.

[radfringe]

4. kool-aid comes in more than one flavor n/t

[Like It Is]

6. MSNBC & CNN try to dictate the candidates to us.

Ninety percent of the people have no idea who they intend to support. They can take their polls and stick them where the sun doesn't shine.

[Sarah Ibarruri]

9. We need to get a mail-writing campaign to them

We can ask them to stop being treating us like kids that don't know who they're going to vote for, and that we're going to ignore their propaganda.

[OHdem10]

7. My observations tell me the MSM's agenda at the moment

is peel away all the candidates except HRC(after all daily
they "show" us) she is the inevitable candidate for
Democrats. Get rid of the other Dem. Candidates.

They never cover GOP in same detail as Dem. Candidates.

The Overall Agenda has been and is A Presidential Race between
HRC and Guilliani. IMO, they are betting on Rudy.

[AndyTiedye]

10. They Want to Make Sure Hillary Clinton is the Democratic Candidate so the Repiglickins Win

They have been working to build up Hillary Clinton's negatives for 15 years.
They have been very successful.
51% say they would not vote for her no matter what.

She would probably make a good President, but the Mighty Slime Machine has made her unelectable.

[MrRobotsHolyOrders]

16. If you hate what journalists do to your favorite candidate...

Wait until you find out about the fillings they put in your teeth that READ YOUR MIND!

[thunder rising]

11. And the best thing that can happen is more free advertisement

of the blogs. It's good that Kos was selected for the uninitiated masses to visit the first time. DU is the basement of vile unwashed cynicism.

A new motto for the blogs, "It's the other thing you can do on the web"

You know after 5 or 6 hours of hard core porn I really like a little virtual conversation.

[MADem]

12. What you're noticing is SOP every election cycle. Partisans shitting on their candidate's opposition

It's par for the course. They'll use any source or cite.

If the late, unlamented Batboy-covering WEEKLY WORLD NEWS says that Candidate X likes to barbecue Baby Seal in the backyard, supporters for Candidates Y, Z, and 1,2 and 3 will leap all over that article, claiming it is "proof" that this candidate is bad and their candidate is so much better.

Kucinich will not get my vote, not because he's polling at close to zero, but because that "Department of Peace" bullshit, while a nice dream, is just not REAL WORLD, and would have to be accompanied by Chinese or Russian lessons for the entire population. Other than him and Gravel, who also doesn't live in a reality-based neighborhood, I am still undecided. I'd consider any one of the rest of the Democratic field. Unless Gore gets in, then I'm backing him.

I'm in no hurry at all to make up my mind. I like hearing from all of them--they make each other better with the different views they put forth. And any one of them is better than any of the GOP crew.

That MSM? They're owned by corporations who are heavily invested in the military-industrial-congressional-war complex. They make Billlions with a B from the government, and mere millions from their media arms. They use the media arms to shape public sentiment so they can make money off the government, see?

Example--Owners of the NBC/MSNBC/CNBC/Bravo/Telemundo..ETC. franchise? GE--We Bring Good Wars to Life!

[LWolf]

13. Don't be logical, lol.

If you believe that the msm has an agenda, and focuses on particular candidates over others, peel off the "top tier" that the msm spends all that air time on, and put focus and support else. Simple, isn't it?

Follow the money, as one candidate that gets no air time reminded us.

I, too, wish rank and file Democrats would reject what gets served up by the media, but I'm not holding my breath. Too many rank and file democrats jump aboard the candidates with the most money and the most air time. In other words, they support the process the msm uses to narrow down the field.

[AtomicKitten]

18. something about bread and circuses ....

The Media Heathers are doing what they always do, their impression of Joan Rivers cracking wise on the Red Carpet.

More crap, less filling.

[AndyTiedye]

20. But the Bread is Made With Contaminated Wheat Gluten from China

and the circus just isn't any fun anymore since they keep breaking away from the fun stuff to tell us how great war is all the time.

[KoKo]

21. Thanks for this post! What you say is what the MSM seem to be doing...and

it's what they seem to do best. Getting us fighting with each other while they almost never mention the Republican Front Runners (if there are any..identified, yet) and what their views or dust ups are.

Kucinich does seem to have principles and sticks to them without the spin. We have good candidates but they seem to fall into letting the MSM identify who they are. Edwards is trying to come back with some hard hitting good messages. Kucinich is still out there telling much truth.

I'm still waiting for Gore. His experience is excellent...he's been outside of the system and now knows how it looks to the average American out here too.

I hope he will come in this Fall.

[illinoisprogressive]

22. great post for a newbie, or even an old timer.

I agree it is toxic. I am guilty of posting anti Hillary. My reason is that the hillarybots got arrogant about 2 months ago and started to attack Sen. Obama, my candidate. I got sick of it as not just daily but all day long thing.
So, me being the competetive person I am, started to hit back with loads of pro Obama posts. That did not stop them so, I started to post anti Hillary things.
To be honest, I really do hate Hillary and I have many reasons. I tend to support the Edwards people and give a good rah to them when I can. and I like the other candidates.
But, it seems since the Hillarybots in her campaign started that Obama bashing blog, hillaryis44 they have become very arrogant and hateful on here./

[illinoisprogressive]

23. Oh. forgot to post about the msm

the msm has an agenda. it is a daily hillary cheerleading. They ignore the others except when they want to trash Edwards and Obama. And they spin for Hillary like crazy. They will not say one word of criticism about her and cover up anything that makes her look bad. They spin all the debates for Hillary though the people vote for someone else always. Everyday they have some fluff or pro Hillary story on. and talk her up like she is greater than Lincoln and Roosevelt rolled into one.
So, yes the msm is totally pushing their agenda and I feel they have no right to influence our primaries regardless the candidate. It is ours. We are the voters and to influence it so blatantly I find disgusting.