Clinton gains respect at gathering of bloggers (SF Chronicle)

[Eugene]

Source: San Fransisco Chronicle

Clinton gains respect at gathering of bloggers
Top Dem candidates debate to win favor of the 'netroots'

Joe Garofoli, Chronicle Staff Writer

Sunday, August 5, 2007

(08-05) 04:00 PDT Chicago -- Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton
faced a convention Saturday of 1,400 politically influential
online activists who don't particularly like her. Yet she emerged
from the presidential forum here at the Yearly Kos convention
with a little more respect - if not love - from the liberal bloggers.

It helps that the first thing Clinton did was thank them. In a
meeting with about 350 activists before a debate with six other
Democratic challengers, Clinton praised the bloggers for helping
to create a "modern progressive movement" and for standing up
"against a right-wing noise machine."

"I only wish we had this active and fighting a blogosphere 15
years ago," when her husband, Bill, was president, Clinton said.
She got a laugh by joking that a faulty microphone was the work
of "a vast right-wing conspiracy."

Clinton's appearance Saturday and the relatively small amount of
hostile reaction she got underscore two points: Clinton knows
that online activists have won a seat at the liberal power table,
and the "netroots" are willing to at least listen to the candidate
leading most Democratic polls.

-snip-

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2007/08/05/MNS6RD3Q01.DTL

[spotbird]

1. I will not vote for any Republican,

including Hillary Clinton. No amount of propaganda will change my mind.

You can put lipstick on a pig and call it Lucy...

[wyldwolf]

2. Why would you call her a Republican? Just makes those who say that look..

...really naive.

[Totally Committed]

4. If it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck...

Oh, please.... naive? Get real.

TC

[wyldwolf]

6. it is you who needs to get real

List, with sources and links, what makes someone "Democrat" as opposed to "Republican." Next, demonstrate how Clinton alone among the Democratic field meets the "Republican" qualifications.

Why waste our time if the above request cannot be met?

[Totally Committed]

10. Here are just a FEW examples of those who agree with me...

Posted here this morning, just one forum, just a sample:

We no longer have a representative government
by Lerkfish

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3427525

Capitulation by Democrats in name only
by rjones2818

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3427490

I'm worried about the Dems & I'm a good progressive... Here's why:
by WTF cubed

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=1515010&mesg_id=1515010

Vichy Dem Bush enablers- the list for primary challenges
by Fiendish Thingy

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3427423

Something for all you 'we don't have to votes' types
sampsonblk

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3426804

one last, final screw you and the elephant you rode in on to the DLC/Dinos
by Lerkfish

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3427541

Thank these 16 Democrats for giving Bush expanded authority to eavesdrop without a warrant.
by ProSense

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3425605&mesg_id=3425605

I have good days and bad days...today is a bad day!
by jackbourassa

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3426296&mesg_id=3426296

What Was The Dems' Excuse For Legislating Warrantless Wiretapping?
by MannyGoldstein

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3426112&mesg_id=3426112

Reposting list of Blue Dogs and House New Democrats...keeping track of votes.
by madfloridian

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3426414

It's time progressives go for progressives!
by rjones2818

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3426930

Dear Rep. Jay Inslee. Were you going to impeach? Sorry we just gave Gozo new powers. Is that ok?
by kansasblue

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3427073

Idealism and dealism
by lwcon

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3427619

Candidates on the Political compass
byLWolf

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3426799

No matter how big the crimes of bush/Cheney impeachment is now dead
by Botany

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3427577

Time to replace Harry Reid?
by Meldread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3427161

List of Dem/Senators voting yes on FISA:
by partylessinOhio

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3427177

GOD BLESS AMERICA, HOME OF THE SHEEP, STAND BESIDE HER, AND GUIDE HER,
by givemebackmycountry

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3427104

Rep. Louise M. Slaughter(D) New York: “They have got us in a vise”
by dajoki

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3427157&mesg_id=3427157


People are wising up to all this DINO bullsh*t. I'm not alone here, and you know it.

TC

[wyldwolf]

12. I didn't ask who on DU agreed with you. So I'l assume you have no clue in regards to what I asked.

[Totally Committed]

18. I want links. (You get links) No, not those links, stupid! I wanted different links...

Okay, so these weren't the links you meant or wanted or demanded or whatever. They're links... take 'em or leave 'em.

But, if you checked out any of the links you might have found this one:

Candidates on the Political compass
by LWolf



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3426799


As you can see, we (sadly) as a Party, only find RW Authoritarians "electable"... Oh! Ditto, the Republicans! Imagine that! And, wait! --- Isn't that Mrs. Clinton I see further to the right than any other Democrat? -- Oops! My bad, she's equal with Bill Richardson... another DLC-er. But, they are both pretty far right! Almost as right as the Republicans... doesn't MAKE them Republicans, I guess, but it sure does make them DINO's -- at least in my book.

TC

[wyldwolf]

19. You ridicule calls for proof of dubious claims?

Interesting... :rofl:

Now I know what your name means.

[Clintonista2]

15. How do DU opinions make her republican/Democratic?

Think for yourself.

[wyldwolf]

20. there is a mindset among a few here that there are smarter than the rest of us

[Changenow]

11. If Rupert Murdoch and Bush Rangers'

bet their money on her...it's naive to think they spend their dollars foolishly.

[Clintonista2]

17. Notice how they don't even respond to the article?

The article shows how progressive bloggers (a group that HATES her), found her to be... not what they expected, in a very good way. So what's the first response? "I'll never vote for her." It's a very defensive reply, because the real Hillary is much different than that poster, and many anti-Clinton posters here on DU, try to make her out as.

[Totally Committed]

3. I agree with you!

Some days it gets knee-deep in here, doesn't it?

I assume these were the same "bloggers" who booed her when she defended Lobbyists and their $$$. NOw they "respect" her? The media wants her to be the nominee BAD. What a load of happy horsesh*t.

And, those who knowingly vote for her even though she DOES mimic a Republican most days are worse then naive.

She'll never get my vote.

TC

[Adelante]

5. Referring to Democratic candidates as Repukes

is simply unacceptable name-calling on a Democratic discussion board. IMHO

[wyldwolf]

7. In my opinion, too. It shows severe lack of knowledge on the subject

[Peregrine Took]

9. DLC = rethuglican lite. I can never forgive her for that Bankruptcy Bill vote.

Nor any Dem who voted for it. Everyone knows the main reason people have to file bankruptcy is due to medical expenses that put them over the top and for a Democrat to make it harder to do so is unthinkable

[wyldwolf]

13. what vote?

[Clintonista2]

14. Close your eyes, plug your ears and repeat: LALALALALALA

[ruggerson]

16. Your post should be deleted

n/t

[saltpoint]

8. I like that she showed up. I like that she thanked those gathered.

I like that for the most part they listened respectfully to her remarks.

The whole thing is a snapshot picture of how it's done.

Good on everybody there gathered.

[laugle]

21. Hillary learned about charm from the

"Master," her husband!! People who don't think she is warm and fuzzy are wrong. I think in her un-serious moments she is very likable.

It's hard being female and running for office, woman are held to a much higher standard.

People on DU have said that she was unemotional in the last debate, hell, they never say that about a man! Does anyone think Kucinich came off that way?

[saltpoint]

22. Hi, laugle.

I bet you're right on HClinton. She is likely a lot more relaxed and fun when she's not "on" and in front of the media-connected lights & microphones.

And as for Dennis Kucinich, I think he's awfully brainy and genuinely dedicated to his principles, and that THAT is what frightens people. Very frankly I don't think that many U.S. citizens are as keen a citizen as Dennis is. They can't see themselves voting for him because they can't perceive themselves as that dedicated, that involved, that intense.

[laugle]

23. Yeah, I too like Kucinich but I don't think he has

a prayer of winning.

About Hillary, she charmed the pants off of Letterman when she ran for the Senate. He was all set to embarrass her like he does with many guests, O'Reilly comes to mind, but I could tell he really liked her!

Oh well....time will tell if people will warm-up to her. Personally, I don't vote based on looks or charm. I know she is very capable and I also think she can win.

Of course, having the Big Dawg doesn't hurt either.

Please keep an open mind, as I respect your opinion. Thanks