Obama DID NOT change his opinion on use of nuclear weapons

[zulchzulu]

Someone on DU posted some blogtrash lie that Obama had changed his view on nuclear weapons and cited an article from the Kansas City Star, complete with a sophmoric nuclear bomb coming out of Obama's head with a question mark. The article then proceeded to tag with a reference that implied Obama was still a state senator:

http://www.kansascity.com/news/politics/story/217876.html

It looks like the only reason the pathetic "journalists" wanted to post the lie was to use the 5th grade Repug humor "O-bomb-a" as a subhead.

[Vincardog]

1. Question? When did it become the policy of the US government

that we would use Nukes FIRST?
I thought it was long standing US policy that we would NOT launch first.

If it was good enough for Saint RayGun why are you a pussy if you say it now?

[zulchzulu]

5. Someone posed the question to Obama about whether he'd use nukes...

...and he basically said "no f&*king way".

But then some candidate who had been First Lady running against him said it was careless to say we wouldn't use nukes. Then again, that's what they chalk up as "foreign policy experience". Human suicide...

[Vincardog]

6. Where did the woman who shall not be named get all that so called "Experience"?

[killbotfactory]

11. I think Bush changed that

His administration just loves the idea of "tactical" nukes.

[saltpoint]

2. I think someone like Barrack Obama will become a target for

both accomplished bigots and garden-variety yahoos on the Right.

He represents something they are not: an adaptable spirit in a complex world, a world which more and more is showing an interest in his potential contributions.

He's drawing fire, which strange to say, is a gauge of his merits.

If he were marginal and had no chance, I doubt if you'd hear a peep from his detractors.

But here he is with a fat wallet, considerable support, and one of the best minds to come along in ages, so kapow! -- his detractors try to whittle him down.

I think his gifts will prevail against their limitations.

[Forkboy]

4. Interesting points.

If he were marginal and had no chance, I doubt if you'd hear a peep from his detractors.

This is why Kucinich gets so little attention.His views are great,but because of his standing no one pays any attention.Politics...it's a funny ole world!

My own view is that Obama has very little that separates him from Hillary.To some that may be good.To me it isn't.I personally don't feel the hope thing from him at all,but I think it's cool that he does have that effect on some.Anything that inspires people towards left-leaning ideas is ok by me.

I don't see him as a big agent of change though,and I think his voting record would support that theory.The obvious big thing that is a change is his color.I think it would be awesome to have either a black man or a woman as President.To finally take that step and join the rest of the rational world that doesn't care about this crap would be super.I'm just not sure these two are the ones I want.

If nothing else though,Obama,like Deval Patrick,has opened a lot people's eyes to the idea of a black person in charge (I know Patrick isn't the only black person that's been elected,but it was a big thing here in Mass.We may be liberal,but there's always been an underlying current of racism around here that has never sat well with me).That alone is worthy of recognition,and I hope if nothing else Obama leads the way for more diversity in our government.

[saltpoint]

8. Hi, Forkboy. I join you in hoping that racism generally can be

diminished -- and diminished to practically nothing would be ideal.

I believe Obama is a huge help in that direction already.

The candidates are still hammering out some of the platform details, and I'm waiting to see how the Bush administration handles the ongoing failure in the Middle East. As bad as it is, I expect it to get worse.

That's going to put a new pressure on Bush. He's gotten most of the delays and stalls so far, but the public mood has now shifted dramatically against him. Out candidates are riding that wave.

This fall is going to be a wild one.

[Major Hogwash]

9. Submitted for your perusal, what if Obama prematurely announced that he wanted Clark as his Sec Def

Do you think it would help him or hurt him?

Note the Twilight Zone reference because I don't think it will happen, but I think it would help Obama gain momentum.

[saltpoint]

10. Well, I figure it would help any president to have expert

counsel.

Clark surely fits that criterion.

My guess, though, is that Clark will be on most of our candidates' shortlists for the vice presidential nomination.

Anyway, no matter how it shakes out exactly, I think it would be a plus.

[Forkboy]

3. That's what scares me.

;)

[illinoisprogressive]

7. the media is twisting everything he is says lately to swiftboat him