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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 12:41 PM
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Poll question: Re: Chicken Littles: The Sky is not falling ...really its not
Edited on Tue Aug-07-07 01:04 PM by Perky
I probably should have posted this over here initially and as a poll ... The General Discussion forum tends to be dominated by doom and gloomers.
The Death of American Democracy is greatly exaggerated.


Look, George Bush's actions are largely inexcusable. some would say impeachable they are not however not irreparable not even close. He has about 17 months left in office. They may well turn out to be insufferable. but we will suffer through them. We will survive these darkened skies.


I hold this truth to be self-evident: That the american experiment will endure and in fact be strengthen in this next generation rather than brought to its death.

Why?

Because the american people have overwhelming reservoir of good will, an overwhelming sense of justice. An intolerance for corruption. Are they slow to respond in the face of this egregious behavior? Yes.. but we must acknowledge that it is in large measure an overreaching in these unchartered waters post 9/11. America moves in cycles but we always ultimately wind up spiraling upwards.

We survived Gettysburg, we survived suffrage, we survived the Depression, we survived McCarthyism, We survived Jim Crow and Selma, We survived Vietnam and the loss of John and Bobby and Martin and Malcolm. We survived Chicago, We survived Kent State, We survived Watergate. We survived Reagan, We survived the 2000 election, We will survive this.

Maybe Pelosi is not your cup of tea....maybe you are pissed as hell at the seeming acquiescence to Bush's and Cheney's Strangelovian obsession.

But I am not worried. Why....not because it is not bad....but because it is all reversible.
One Democratic President, one stronger Democratic congress and we can undue every bit of what has been done. There is no Executive Order that can not be rescinded. There is no law that can not be repealed.No SIgning statement that can not be ignored.

We really ought have more faith that things will get better.

We have this going for us

A strong vibrant angry electorate.
A strong net-roots movement, if the energy can be channeled into the voting booth
A strong blogosphere which while fractured... rivals the MSM in accuracy and opinion.

We have seven strong presidential candidates actually talking and debating issues.

While the republican have something like what... 15?.... and most of their base is disgusted. While their great coalition builders: Reed, Armey, Falwell, Robertson and Delay are either, Discredited, indicted, retired or dead.

But while the GOP is on its back reeling and convulsing, we are throwing stones at our own leaders rather than working for greater majorities that could be easily be death blows to the other guys.

I think some time our expectations are too high and our visceral reaction to strident. We set ourselves up for disappointment and certainly dissatisfaction. We need to take the long view. We need to understand our history. We need to not give up hope so easily. We need positive energy to take the White House and strengthen our hold on Congress instead of trying to eviscerate fell democrats when they are trying their best to keep Bush locked down and get reelected so that we have the majorities we need


It is fully within our grasp to undo the harm of the past eight years. We can turn this ship around. This nation has done it many many many times. But we do not do that by declaring the death of Democracy and the death of the party.


The party...warts and all, is this nation's only hope...the more we tear down our leadership the more advantage we give to the other guys. Not saying you do not have the right to be pissed. But when you became so pissed that you are blind to the historical robustness of the Great Experiment; when you want to destroy it leadership in the hopes that it will somehow save democracy... You do us more damage than good.

When we seek to break down the best hope we have of righting these atrocious wrongs, we wind up undermining the very thing we proclaim it slipping from our grasp and we so called "Democrats' will be just as responsible for the demise of Democracy as are Bush, Cheney and the NeoCon Cabal.

Channel all your anger in to enthusiasm for a particular candidate: Channel it into getting people registered to vote and to the polls. But stop wasting it by sitting behind a keyboard proclaiming that Democracy is dying.
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nebenaube Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 12:47 PM
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1. psst...
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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 12:53 PM
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2. .
:kick:
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 12:56 PM
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3. A big kick and recomend!
:kick:

I swear some people are not happy unless they are unhappy.
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 01:02 PM
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4. thank you. eom
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ConservativeDemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 01:06 PM
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5. It ain't even close to cloudy...
Everything worked exactly as it should.

Nearly all Democrats voted against the wiretapping bill, but Blue Dog Democrats in vulnerable seats (combined with all Republicans) voted for it. This insures that: 1] Democrats are on record as largely against unneeded wiretapping, 2] Blue Dogs continue to hold seats in Republican leaning districts, 3] Republicans have nothing to attack Democrats over if and/or when there is a terror attack in the domestic United States.

(Oh, and of course, the bill utterly pisses off the Cindy Sheehan anti-Democrats in the D.U. But that's just an added bonus.)

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

p.s. Don't fool yourself into thinking you're important enough for anybody to waste time "spying" on your conversations. You're not.

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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 01:20 PM
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6. Pollyanna Lives!
We are in serious shit here. We MIGHT be able to turn this around, but not "as the nation has done it many many many times" - because not even during the civil war when we cheerfully murdered 600,000 of our fellow citizens was the constitution itself put under such strain. Not until we do something to limit the power of the international corporations which now dictate our policies will we begin to adress the real problem - and there is no indication that either side of the aisle has any intention of doing that.

This isn't about the harm of the past six years - it is the past 60 years. More than two generations of entrenched corruption - the evil that Ike warned us about has settled in to stay, and it may well take a revolution to root it out since few in either party seem to recognise how deep the roots have grown.

There is nothing in our history that can be compared to what is happening today. Those who don't see that are part of the problem, for how can you fight what you deny is there?

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Perky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 01:54 PM
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8. I have never siad there are no problems. I just believe that the only
way to fix it is to do everything possible to insure as many democratic elected officials as possible.
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Sadie4629 Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 01:35 PM
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7. Stop it! You're spoiling everybody's fun! n/t
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