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mantis Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 07:38 PM
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Edwards lost!! Edwards Lost!!
Just wanted to say it before all the "experts" with tweety tell ya....which is what they usually say.
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 07:40 PM
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1. They just did.
:dem:
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 07:40 PM
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2. hahaha - just happened, as if on cue! LOL -eom
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mantis Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 07:40 PM
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4. hahahah
Clobama won! Edwards lost!
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Justitia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 07:41 PM
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9. quick! what are tonight's winning lottery numbers??? LOL -eom
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 07:40 PM
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3. Ha HA!
You beat them by like 2 seconds.

Edwards did fine.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 07:40 PM
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5. PLEASE SHOOT ME!!!
Tweety: Edwards didn't have a commanding presence. Is it because he's a small man? Seriously, he's a physically small man.

SHOOT ME SHOOT ME SHOOT ME
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mantis Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 07:42 PM
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10. this debate
will be devastating to his campaign. Will he even get the union vote now?? Did they say that yet?
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AnnieBW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 07:41 PM
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6. Puke-canan likes Kucinich
My head just exploded. :wow:
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AndreaCG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 07:41 PM
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7. Yup, that's what they're saying
And Pat Buchanan saying Kucinich was the best. Then he said Hillary won the debate. Typical crazy duplicitous doublespeak.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:00 PM
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27. He was.
First debate I've watched - admittedly because KO was hosting - and my honest, unbiased opinion is that the Kooch won.

I don't have a candidate; therefore, my opinion is about as fair as it can be.

Denny won. The China line threw him over the top.

Sometimes Patty-Pat gets it right.
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venable Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 07:41 PM
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8. it is so bizarre
the fact is Edwards has labor support.

he did just fine.

the msm can go to hell.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:02 PM
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29. Why does he have labor support?
He didn't do much for labor as a Senator from a Right to be Fired, I mean, Right to Work, state.

(And, yes, he did have some control over that, if nothing else but from the bully pulpit).
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 07:43 PM
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11. He's being "Goredeaned" Too bad,
Who are these pundits and why do they hate America.

:cry:
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 07:48 PM
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15. It's just ridiculous, all this scorekeeping
Who "won" this exchange, who "won" that exchange. It's maddening.

If only they'd questioned Bush this hard. If only they'd put down their pom-poms when it mattered.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:04 PM
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36. Although I disagree that they're GoreDeaning Edwards...
...I will agree that they don't have much of a finger on the pulse of the nation. More like they're giving us the finger.

:hi: Catch. Heard you thought "my guy if he would run" was a knockout at Yearly Kos. ;)
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 07:46 PM
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12. Watching Edwards tonight
Edited on Tue Aug-07-07 07:49 PM by insane_cratic_gal
Made me decide he's the one I'll vote for.

He moves me to tears, Dennis inspires my fighting side. I get an emotional reaction to both of them.

I feel like a dead fish every time Hilliary and Obama talk. They do nothing for me.

I don't know what that says about me, perhaps I'm just an emotional wreck?
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mantis Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 07:48 PM
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14. Well lets
Hope many people feel the same way you do...however the media is very powerful...they can sell us big macs and bush...they can also sell us clobama.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 07:56 PM
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20. this is what Yearly Kos was about....
are we going to let the media win? It's up to us now :patriot:
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 07:50 PM
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19. It's been a rough seven years
You have every right to feel emotional. I can barely hold it in myself.

:hug:
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 07:59 PM
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26. I watched that Man speak about his disability
His inability to provide health care for his family.

I cried!

I work in an ER, I see 200 + people a month come in who don't have health insurance. I see 200 plus of them with a similar story.
Who wait until their so sick, they have to be hospitalized to recover! Not lazy people, not irresponsible people, folks who can't afford health insurance because it costs on average 500 bucks a month. People who apologize and feel terrible that they don't have coverage. What makes it worse is sometimes they rationalize, better to pay a 1300 er bill then to pay 500 bucks a month only to be denied for the bill anyway. That's disgusting to me.

It's insanity, it has to stop!

Health care is a huge issue for me. Want to get me in a booth, talk to me about health care. Tell me what your going to do for those people who have choose between eating or paying for a insurance policy.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:04 PM
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35. There will be more tears before it's over
Health Care is the #1 concern of every American I speak too. You're right to cry... you're right to be sad... you're right to feel hopelessness at times.

That man was the best moment of the debate. Imagine if he popped up at a Republican one. He'd probably be mocked and scorned. :-(

It's easy, on days like this, to be proud, and to understand why, we're Democrats.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:06 PM
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39. I have to ask... and don't take this the wrong way, but
why would you vote for the guy that made you want to cry instead of the guy that made you want to fight?

I don't have a candidate, yet (I get tired of saying that, but it's true); however, if it were between those two deciding factors, I think I'd go for the guy who made me want to fight, not weep.

Do you get what I'm asking? I'm really not trying to be snide or anything.
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insane_cratic_gal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:12 PM
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42. I love both of them
Edited on Tue Aug-07-07 08:28 PM by insane_cratic_gal
I'd be happy to cast my vote for either one of them.

Dennis hasn't popped up on any election poll (polling well) except in our little neck of the woods over here in DU. That gives me a pause. Can he bleep himself on to the map? And how can we help him do that?

And for the record, John makes me cry and want to fight back. Not like I want to sit on the couch weeping. I want to make it right for all Americans, including those snots over at freepville who are so blinded by hatred they can't see past it to elect someone who would make this country better and safer.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:34 PM
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50. Well, if we'd all stop musing that Kooch couldn't win and just
vote for him, he might win.

;)

Thanks for answering. I just wondered. I'm ready to fight, not cry, myself, so I had to ask. :hi:
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:01 PM
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28. Thank YOU!
I love John Edwards. As I do ALL of the democratic candidate ..... can't say that for the various supporters 'round here ...... I didn't see the debate so I can't really judge. But I give John a hell of a lot of credit. He's been through a lot of pain with his wonderful wife's cancer and the ROBBED election of 2004. Yet he keeps on going. He's moving up in my choices. Granted, I'm for Hillary and I LOVE Obama, but JE will always be a favorite of mine. I'd be proud to work for him if he's the nominee.
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VolcanoJen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:02 PM
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30. I adore John
I'll admit to being undecided still... but John's pulling at my heart, just like he did in '04.

:hug: ronny :hug:
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 07:47 PM
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13. I missed the debate
I hope it's re-ran.
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MalloyLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 07:48 PM
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16. Guess what..they said exactly that. Like Willie Brown
is any kind of authority.

Funny how they ask two African Americans. Hmm, I wonder who they are uniting behind...could'nt be because OBama is African American. If ANYTHING, MSNBC is racist...
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mantis Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 07:50 PM
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18. nah
just remember, Edwards lost.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 07:57 PM
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24. Why do you hate America?
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 07:48 PM
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17. The corporate media ALWAYS says Clobama win. We need to be asking why they love Clobama so much nt
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 07:56 PM
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21. "Clobama?"
:shrug:
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:02 PM
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31. A combination of their last names to highlight the similarities between HRC and BO
Edited on Tue Aug-07-07 08:03 PM by draft_mario_cuomo
They are like Pepsi and Coke. Same concept, different marketing.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:03 PM
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33. You're desperate, dude.
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 09:55 PM
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51. I've been saying that for weeks. Why the sudden anger? nt
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:08 PM
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40. That's quite an insult to both of them.
They are two different people with two very different backgrounds.
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mantis Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:10 PM
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41. Well.....
I use the term "clobama" to refer to the media's love affair with clinton and Obama.
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 09:55 PM
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52. On policy they are indentical nt
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:04 PM
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37. Clintama
:shrug:

dp
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 07:57 PM
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22. President Obama will make you proud.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 07:59 PM
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25. I like Obama, but not for President....he couldn't even answer the Bonds question
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:03 PM
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32. That question was trivial and tricky
He answered well. He doesn't need to get involved in a freaking "Obama loves/hates Bonds" controversy.

I mean, it's alright that you think Obama is not qualified to be president, but don't tell me it is because the Bonds question.

By the way, President Obama will make you proud. You will love him and root for him in '12, I'm telling you.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:24 PM
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48. LOL...you're obviously not an MLB fan.
It's an important demographic too :hi:
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:32 PM
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49. I missed that one.
How'd he answer it?

I have two MLB fans in the house - but they're Bo-Sox fans, so their opinion of Bonds might be jaded. (Tee hee... I have to admit, when I first read that he'd been asked as question about Bonds, I thought it meant bonds as in "stocks and bonds." :rofl: )
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:12 PM
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43. Who cares about the "Bonds question?"
I'd think less of him if he'd answered it. It was a no-win.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:17 PM
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45. A simple "no" would have been understandable...
it was that easy.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:19 PM
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46. Do you realize the media would've jumped over that shit like crazy?
"Obama disses Bonds", "Obama thinks Bonds is on steroids", "Obama respects Aaron but not Bonds".
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:21 PM
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47. Bonds is still in the game, though.
If he makes his mark while the league considers him legitimate, would it be easy to deny him welcome at the WH? Or couldn't that be dissing the sport and the pros who make those decisions?
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:03 PM
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34. Obama already has
Edited on Tue Aug-07-07 08:04 PM by draft_mario_cuomo
I think 99% of minorities are proud that BO is up there contending for the nomination. :applause:
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:05 PM
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38. I like you, man. You are a good guy.
Keep in mind our disagreements are never personal.
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 09:57 PM
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53. Thanks, same here. Besides, we will all unite in 6-7 months
:)
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 07:57 PM
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23. I don't know who "lost," but I don't think Edwards helped himself.
Just my opinion.
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MalloyLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-07-07 08:15 PM
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44. Kinda hard when Clobama get all the time.
I thought Olbermann would be more fair, but apparently he has no control over the forum either.
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