booley
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Tue Aug-07-07 10:44 PM
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Bush: President for Life?! Please tell me this is a joke |
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Please, somebody tell me this is a joke and I just didn't get it. The inadequacy of Democracy, rule by the majority, is undeniable – for it demands adopting ideas because they are popular, rather than because they are wise. This means that any man chosen to act as an agent of the people is placed in an invidious position: if he commits folly because it is popular, then he will be held responsible for the inevitable result. If he refuses to commit folly, then he will be detested by most citizens because he is frustrating their demands.
When faced with the possible threat that the Iraqis might be amassing terrible weapons that could be used to slay millions of citizens of Western Civilization, President Bush took the only action prudence demanded and the electorate allowed: he conquered Iraq with an army. This dangerous and expensive act did destroy the Iraqi regime, but left an American army without any clear purpose in a hostile country and subject to attack. If the Army merely returns to its home, then the threat it ended would simply return. The wisest course would have been for President Bush to use his nuclear weapons to slaughter Iraqis until they complied with his demands, or until they were all dead. Then there would be little risk or expense and no American army would be left exposed. But if he did this, his cowardly electorate would have instantly ended his term of office, if not his freedom or his life. ............... The simple truth that modern weapons now mean a nation must practice genocide or commit suicide. Israel provides the perfect example. If the Israelis do not raze Iran, the Iranians will fulfill their boast and wipe Israel off the face of the earth. Yet Israel is not popular, and so is denied permission to defend itself. In the same vein, President Bush cannot do what is necessary for the survival of Americans. He cannot use the nation's powerful weapons. All he can do is try and discover a result that will be popular with Americans. .............. By elevating popular fancy over truth, Democracy is clearly an enemy of not just truth, but duty and justice, which makes it the worst form of government. President Bush must overcome not just the situation in Iraq, but democratic government. However, President Bush has a valuable historical example that he could choose to follow. When the ancient Roman general Julius Caesar was struggling to conquer ancient Gaul, he not only had to defeat the Gauls, but he also had to defeat his political enemies in Rome who would destroy him the moment his tenure as consul (president) ended. Caesar pacified Gaul by mass slaughter; he then used his successful army to crush all political opposition at home and establish himself as permanent ruler of ancient Rome. This brilliant action not only ended the personal threat to Caesar, but ended the civil chaos that was threatening anarchy in ancient Rome – thus marking the start of the ancient Roman Empire that gave peace and prosperity to the known world. ............. President Bush can fail in his duty to himself, his country, and his God, by becoming “ex-president” Bush or he can become “President-for-Life” Bush: the conqueror of Iraq, who brings sense to the Congress and sanity to the Supreme Court. Then who would be able to stop Bush from emulating Augustus Caesar and becoming ruler of the world? For only an America united under one ruler has the power to save humanity from the threat of a new Dark Age wrought by terrorists armed with nuclear weapons.http://familysecuritymatters.org/challenges.php?id=1208571I couldn't find the punchline. He seems serious. and this seems to be rather typical for the site it's on. Please tell me that cons aren't admitting that they want to overthrow our Democracy and replace it witha military junta.
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Tue Aug-07-07 10:45 PM
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Tue Aug-07-07 10:57 PM
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2. There is no punchline, |
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And they are quite serious. This is where the whole thing has been going, because empire abroad and freedom at home are incompatible.
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Tue Aug-07-07 10:58 PM
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3. Family Security Matters is a Freeper Wet Dream Site |
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Thanks for highlighting this site.
With all the bickering lately on DU, I think we need to look horrors like that in the face and realize that we are here to celebrate, organize and otherwise support some very important common causes. We need to make sure that opinions like this stay in the fringe where they belong. This article actually advocates genocide as the only rational course our country can take in Iraq.
If we don't get our act together and make sure that this ideology is beaten down in 2008 and 2010 and 2012 and as long as we can beat it down, then history will look unfavorably on us, the loyal opposition.
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Tue Aug-07-07 11:03 PM
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4. these people are scaring me |
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:scared: :scared:
looks like familysecuritymatters are Fox 'news' contributors too.
From their website: The ACT for America team is interviewed on national TV for its expert opinion!:
CNN The Brit Hume Show (FOXNews) The O'Reilly Factor (FOXNews) Fox and Friends (FOXNews) Fox and Friends (FOXNews) ~ August 17, 2005 Fox and Friends (FOXNews) ~ October 9, 2005 Fox and Friends (FOXNews) ~ February 20, 2006 C-Span Studio B With Shepard Smith (FOXNews) ~ August 23, 2005 Studio B With Shepard Smith (FOXNews) ~ September 16, 2005 Studio B With Shepard Smith (FOXNews) ~ March 10, 2006 Fox Live (FOXNews) ~ September 16, 2005 MSNBC Sunday Morning ~ October 9, 2005 WTAE-TV-Fred Honsberger Show-Pittsburgh, PA-June 2005 WTAE-TV-Fred Honsberger Show-Pittsburgh, PA ~June 22,2005 WTAE-TV-Fred Honsberger Show-Pittsburgh, PA ~ July 7,2005 WTAE-TV-Fred Honsberger Show-Pittsburgh, PA ~July 7,2005 WTAE-TV-Fred Honsberger Show-Pittsburgh, PA ~October 4, 2005 WTAE-TV-Fred Honsberger Show-Pittsburgh, PA ~December 30 4, 2005
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Tue Aug-07-07 11:06 PM
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5. It's not a joke, but it's not the future, either. It's... |
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just another bunch of whackjobs with a lot of funding and connections.
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Tue Aug-07-07 11:06 PM
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6. The website is an Elliott Abrams front... |
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Tue Aug-07-07 11:47 PM
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9. yep. the 2nd link is a list of many of our favorite neocons. |
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Tue Aug-07-07 11:29 PM
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7. Oh my fucking god damn... |
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Edited on Tue Aug-07-07 11:31 PM by TankLV
That guy and anyone who believes in this trash should be SHOT ON SITE.
I am fucking serious.
And BTW - these idiots are TRESSONOUS...
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Tue Aug-07-07 11:44 PM
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8. I kept looking for a punchline myself. |
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Tue Aug-07-07 11:51 PM
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10. You've certainly been around long enough to recognize this crap |
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for what it is and, unlike my dog, avoid dragging it back here to stink up the place.:hi:
How did you happen on to this particular batch of infection?
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Wed Aug-08-07 02:09 PM
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17. How can we talk about the right |
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and NOT stink up the place?
But keeping the stink away doesn't' actually get rid of the smell, does it?
This seems to be part of a growing evolution on the part of the right and their thought processes. At least it seemed so to me. This diatribe goes even further then most other right wingers known to be medication I have seen. And I wanted some perspective. And having shared this with others, I know know even more about the people who are behind this site.
Somebody on another forum showed it to me (with a dare to find a Democrat any where near as crazy. So far, no takers)
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Wed Aug-08-07 09:02 AM
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11. Say hello to the 25% folks! |
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It's scary but 25% of the people in the country probably agree!
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Wed Aug-08-07 10:13 AM
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12. I think they forgot to mention |
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In the end, Caesar was assasinated! Not to much brain power there.
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booley
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Wed Aug-08-07 10:53 AM
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13. Cons seem to be rather selective |
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Edited on Wed Aug-08-07 11:06 AM by booley
Selective in what they get outraged about.
Saddam torturing:so horrible we need to invade and kill iraqis to save them. Shrub torturing: What a great idea!!
Selective Morals.
Clinton cheating on his wife: Requires millions for a federal investigation. Republicans cheating: so what?
And Selective Memory.
Too many examples to go into.
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Wed Aug-08-07 12:44 PM
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need to be separated from society and sterilized. Or just put the mad dogs out of their misery.
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Wed Aug-08-07 01:06 PM
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He, and everyone associated with that site should be rounded up and sent to Guantanamo. Including board members like Laura Ingraham.
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booley
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Wed Aug-08-07 02:00 PM
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Since they haven't moved beyond the wishful thinking stage, isnt' it better to just make people aware that these gusy think this way?
Not really all into the "rounding people up" thing just yet.
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Wed Aug-08-07 03:18 PM
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Democracy is mob rule. We need a dictator/commander guy that knows best. We should commit genocide, in this case by nuclear war. We must kill our fellow citizens who disagree.
I'm sure this makes perfect sense to the blackwater crowd.
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