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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 08:53 AM
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Rookie Mistake? Not So Fast (Obama)
Rookie Mistake? Not So Fast
By Ruben Navarrette

The conventional thinking -- especially in Washington -- is that Barack Obama is flunking foreign policy. But this is one case where conventional thinking may be too closely tied to convention and not all that well thought out.

Yes, we've had a glimpse of the world according to Obama. And it doesn't look half bad.

Not the world itself, which is as dangerous and unpredictable as ever -- full of petty tyrants, enemies posing as friends, and rogue states in search of nuclear weapons.

I'm talking about the worldview of the junior senator from Illinois. What seemed like a rookie mistake -- i.e., suggesting that, as president, he'd meet with dictators from countries such as Cuba, Iran or North Korea-- may actually wind up serving Obama well.

First, it let him draw a distinction between himself and the front-runner. Hillary Clinton helped the cause when she blasted Obama's comments as "irresponsible and frankly naive."

That's baby boomer code for "young and immature." The 46-year-old Obama stresses the fact that he's of a different generation than his opponents. This was Clinton pushing back. She might as well have sent the whippersnapper to his room without dessert. After all, Clinton lectured, the president of the United States must be careful not to be used "for propaganda purposes."

But the idea of talking to rogue states such as Iran and Syria has been suggested before, most recently by the Iraq Study Group. Obama's critics insist that there's a difference between diplomatic envoys and a presidential visit. But that distinction may be lost on many Americans, who will embrace the larger point that Obama is making -- that presidents shouldn't just meet with people who always agree with them and tell them what they want to hear.

more...

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/08/rookie_mistake_not_so_fast.html
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 08:59 AM
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1. Like the world is watching his every word.
Don't they know a politition will say anything to get elected. It's all BS.
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Dawgs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 09:24 AM
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3. So, why are you here if you think everything politicians do is BS?
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 09:21 AM
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2. Hillary sounds like Bush--nuke fearmongering and "We don't need this kind of talk" admonishments
Long ago Ari Fleischer and continuing this year, Bush administration lackeys continue to warn Democrats to be "careful about what they say." This is exactly what Hillary Clinton did last night. Unfortunately for her, the crowd picked up on it and booed her (NBC, you will not be surprised to learn, cut the booing out of their segment of this exchange this morning).

TPM has the video of the entire exchange. Hillary Clinton response begins at about 2:17 in the tape.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2007/08/dems_strike_each_other_over_pa.php
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 09:28 AM
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4. A repeat is on now on CSPAN, if anyone wants to watch it.
Thanks for that info; MSNBC cut out the booing? The media is twisting the truth? :wow:
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 09:33 AM
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5. Thanks! Indeed they did cut out the booing. Chip Reid did the segment which was repeated on MSNBC.
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