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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 11:50 AM
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2008 Democratic Race Rankings
, courtesy of Mark Abinder...

2008 Democratic Race Rankings
08 Aug 2007 09:55 am

NBC News political director Chuck Todd and I present our final Democratic rankings for August.

Hillary Rodham Clinton's command of the field is holding even as Barack Obama confronts her worldview and John Edwards gets angrier and angrier. There are signs, however, that some flux is right around the corner.

These rankings are ordered by likelihood of winning the Democratic Party primary and are based on a number of factors, including organization, money, buzz and polling. Click here for Republican
rankings.

Number 1 -- Hillary Clinton -- They'll never admit that their dust-up with Obama over meeting with rogue leaders was a minor setback. That said, a day doesn't go by that she doesn't look like a stronger general election candidate, mainly because of how she's always got her eye on the general when answering debate questions like the one in question. No member of the C.W. chattering class believed she'd be this strong in general election matchups this early in the process. She seems more unbeatable every day, which is why you should expect both Obama and Edwards to stop mincing words and take near-daily shots at the front-runner. She's on such a roll right now, one can't help but wonder if she's peaking too soon. Almanac Profile

2. Barack Obama -- The Clinton folks are convinced that the Obama campaign knows he made two gaffes in the last two weeks, but because they feared the "inexperienced" tag might take hold, they had no choice but to stand their ground based on what he said. We'll never know who's right, but the Obama camp does deserve credit for not being shy about taking on the Georgetown set on issues of foreign affairs. Six months ago, we thought Obama was dying to win the Georgetown primary; now, clearly, he doesn't care. And the recent Post-ABC poll showing him tied for the lead in Iowa shows that the campaign's early TV advertising may be having a desired effect.

3. John Edwards -- Meet Mr. Angry! He's not going to take it any more! Edwards gets better every day in the role of angry populist, but we can't help but wonder if eventually his "no more Mr. nice guy" routine is going to rub Iowa voters the wrong way. Edwards' strength in '04 was that everyone seemed to like the guy. Usually, voters don't like angry populists; they may respect them, but like? Not usually. Still, Edwards needs to keep the hot rhetoric up if only to make sure the press doesn't get too carried away with Clinton v. Obama. The real loser out of the Clinton-Obama spatwas Edwards. It showed how easily he could be ignored.

MORE HERE --> http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2007/08/2008_democratic_race_rankings.php
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 11:54 AM
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1. Sorry, Sen. Edwards. Abinder and Todd are correct
Angry populists don't get elected.
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bluethruandthru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 11:55 AM
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2. Sounds kinda like John Edwards
is getting "Howard Deaned" by the press.
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Bryan Buchan Donating Member (253 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 11:57 AM
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4. Exactly n/t
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 11:58 AM
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5. They're trying everything. Pretty boy. Gay. Now ANGRY POPULIST.
Guess what, corporate media - American voters are angry with this crap, too! We want somebody to clean it up.
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beastieboy Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 12:27 PM
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7. Perhaps it's that attacking other democrats is not becoming of him.
People are used to the gentleman, uniter type that we saw in 2004.
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 11:56 AM
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3. If you aren't angry, you aren't paying attention
Why shouldn't Edwards be angry? Aren't you? I sure am.
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bluethruandthru Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 11:59 AM
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6. Me too!
I want more anger from all democrats over what this bunch of crooks, affectionately known as the Bush Administration, have done to our country and our freedoms.
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Pyrzqxgl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:06 PM
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8. It seems to me that these guys don't read their history books?
Roosevelt was certainly a great populist candidate and he did pretty well. Truman's "Beat High Prices" campaign did
pretty well. Kennedy & Carter also counted populism in their mix. I remember Truman telling me at a speech in San Diego
in 1962 that if I voted for Nixon for Governor I was a Son of A Bitch. Truman was the original Mr. Angry! Go John Edwards!
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smalll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 05:21 PM
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9. Interesting -
Two reactions: One, about Hillary - you know I hadn't worried about the "peaking too soon" thing yet. They have a point, she's doing so well these days, you have to be concerned.

Two, that last point they made about Edwards is exactly right. I'd been thinking the same thing myself. It's no accident Edwards got so angry while Hillary and Obama had their little fight. He knows, they know, we all know the old rule about races with more than two candidates: you can't safely go negative on one opponent because any voters you drive away from him won't go to you, they'll go to someone else entirely. But at this point, it kind of really is a two-person race. Hillary and Obama could have the luxury of fighting with each other because Edwards is not really a viable threat any more. You can tell it got to Edwards.
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