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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 06:30 PM
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Edwards problem with his campaign is
No one will give him coverage, especially CNN..tonight Kattie on CBS covered the man that ask the question of Edwards on Health care and pensions. If he had gotten 1/3 of the coverage that Hillary and Obama, he would be much higher than he is....There are some out there trying hard to pick the democrat candidate, thinking that the one they pick, can be defeated by their party.

Big business is going to do every thing they can to defeat Edwards, he is too straight to suit them.

To prove my point, in one of the Presidential debates when a young woman ask Bush the question, what can be done to help me with health care, remember he lied, no one called him on the lie, he lied when he told the young woman, that the reason her med were so high, was because of all of the expense in developing new drugs, to heck with him, our own government spends much on development of drugs, and many foundations do the research and help with making the drugs,while paying the cost.

First lie I caught him, caught it as he lied.

We need to play Nixon and cry to the media , until we get more coverage for Edwards...Frankly I am turning some of them off, I am taking score and I am not likely to loose the total, after the elections are over.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 06:38 PM
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1. Join Edwards' One Corps at his website.
I am going to an Edwards Meet-Up this week. If there aren't any in your area, maybe you can start a group. Get some handouts together and walk door to door in your neighborhood. See whether you can stand on the sidewalk at the entrance of the shopping mall with a sign and some handouts. You might have problems if you go inside unless the management gives you permission. Be prepared to tell people why you like Edwards. If they go into some Republican tirade, just smile and say well, I guess we will just have to agree to disagree - - and don't try to persuade a super-Republican. Work to get Democrats or people open to what you have to say informed about what Edwards stands for.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 06:43 PM
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3. I am a very old lady, but might consider when the weather cools
Thank you for asking, I do come here every night and copy and past favorable article on Edwards on other boards, I am almost eighty years of age.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 08:24 PM
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11. I'm glad to hear you are also on board with Edwards.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 06:57 PM
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7. I may contact you later,
I will watch for you when the weather cools a little, and if I am feeling well, I will most certainly hand out material for Edwards. Now it is really hot, and I have a Granddaughter getting married later this month. Thank you again, for asking
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 08:23 PM
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10. There is lots of time. It takes a while to get used to the idea.
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Peregrine Took Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 06:42 PM
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2. MSM is terrified of the populist message. He scares the bejazus out of them.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 06:47 PM
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5. You are right,
He is making big business afraid of what will happen if he wins the election, frankly, I have been around a long time and my dad was very much in to politics, that taught me lots, I think Edwards is the person that could win. He is squeaky clean, if a hair cut is all they can find to harp on, then we are in excellent shape.
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classof56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 07:02 PM
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8. Surfermaw, I like what you say!
I too support Edwards--recently contributed to his campaign and admire him immensely. Wishing him and Elizabeth all the best.

There was a time when I thought 80 was "very old" but the closer I get to it (I'm pushing 70) the younger it seems. My mom died a few years ago at 96, pretty sound of mind and body right up to the last. She was a die-hard right wing fundie, though, thought Bushie was God's man for the job. Argh! Needless to say, my conversations with her were pretty limited when it came to politics.

Blessings to you!

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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 08:25 PM
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12. How right you are.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 06:46 PM
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4. Before this whole campaign started, I was leaning toward Obama
I have now decided to vote for Edwards in the primaries. Not only do I believe he can be much more effective than the others, but he seems to recognize and learn from mistakes



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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 06:52 PM
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6. He is a fighter
i remember when he ran in North Carolina for Senator, I thought then he might go a long ways in politics, even mentioned this to some of my neighbors.

It was a great thing he did winning a seat, something that is almost impossible in North Carolina, remember the famous Governor Hunt, and Governor Sanford Governor of NOrth Carolina and President of Duke University, neither of them could win a U.S. Senate from North Carolina. I think Edwards is running ahead in North Carolina, it has been a few weeks since I have seen a poll.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 07:10 PM
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9. His biggest problem is what this thread is about, the media
They are of course trying to protect their corporate interests

I do think that Obama is going to fizzle out, and hopefully those votes will go to Edwards


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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 08:41 PM
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13. Tonight on Hardball , Chris Matthews spelled it out.
"Edwards is a small man" and like Gore many in Media do not like him.
This makes it almost impossible. Obama is the only alternative
to Hilary. Chris said someone like Al Gore could be the only
alternative to Hilary since her lead is so strong.

To the Media , it is my observation, they do not take politics
seriously. They are cynical and suffer the idea that it
really does not matter who is president. They see the Country
is Corporately run. Things are going to be a certain way
no matter who is president.

Issues, Intelligence, etc do not matter,. If the majority
of the people like the President that is all that matters.
After all they gave us GWB. They cheerleaded us to his war.

Image is everything.(how you are built, how you dress, do
you look "Macho") Edwards does not measure up here.

Note all the Republican Candidates. Big Men who look strong.
Image is their first criterior.




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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 10:07 PM
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16. is this motherfucker for real. talking about small men against Hillary Clinton what an insult
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 11:28 PM
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18. You are incorrect.Edwards DOES measure up! That is the problem.
His image is fine.He is goodlooking , rich and articulate.he has a fabulous wife and family.His back story rocks His message resonates...He scares the hell out of the media.They make crap up because they have nothing to get at.Chris Mathews calls Edwards a "small man" He is 6ft tall foe gods sake! Chris Matthews calls Bush , who is actually 5'10"larger than life".Edwards image is too good.He has to be squelched.And that is what MSM is trying to do.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 11:05 AM
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23. When Image is all that matters--- and the tough macho
Image is the Media's choice--think. Blank out everything
you know about Edwards. Block out everything you know about
Guilliani. Think Edwards standing next to next to Guilliani.

As a person not informed on Politics or Candidates. Guilliani
looks more strong and like a leader.

Do the same thing with Thompson.

TV is Image---the NewsMedia know this. Some Pundits have
bluntly asked why do the Democrats insist on running these
small skinny men. I am sure Kucinich has the same problem
but worse.

Issues are never discussed except related to Debates.

There is a theory that if one looks the part and the people
like him, then the Media can continue to be the mouthpiece
for the WH and whoever is President can like Bush do what
they darn please.

The Media Cheerleaded GWB to the Presidency. They hit a snag
when us Peskies got fed up with their blarney and his actions.

Image wise Hilary does well (looks and impressions are important
in our system.

Do we need to change the systen. Heck Yes.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 03:19 PM
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30. I disagree .Using your standards JFK or RFK would never have been elected to anything!
Guliani looks like an old sick man.Thompson has a certain gravitas from his TV and film roles but that is easily punctured.His young wife makes him look foolish not macho.As for your critique of Hillary, I disagree.She is somewhat harridan like. She is trying to soften her image with pastels but she still dresses poorly and doesn't emanate warmth.
And as for your theory of looking the part, when did Bush ever look Presidential during the campaign? I actually work in candidate development and PR and I do not think your observations are sound.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 05:10 PM
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32. I agree with you, R.G. looks like a worn out old man
He has so many wives ,he want have time for much else

Edwards stands 6 feet , what most moms will be satisfied with if her son reaches that height, My grandson is the same height 6 ft, and he was a heck of an Outside Linebacker... Edwards, was large enough to Quarterback a football team when he was in high school, in fact he even tried for a college team. And believe me, if he could load trucks for about 8 hours a night and then graduate from North Carolina and North Carolina State the two top schools in the North Carolina System then he is pretty special.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 11:29 PM
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19. what is it with Matthews and his mancrushes?
He thinks little twerps like Tancredo and Guiliani are macho? I could make a rude comment about contrasting "macho" with Guiliani's propensity for transvestitism, but out of respect for our GLBT members, I won't go down that road. The Republicans are all milquetoasts though.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 10:15 AM
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20. How would you claim a 6 footer to be small
I once thought he was small, then started looking when he was near another person and saw he wasn't tall, however he is active and isn't carrying any extra weight....Bush is shorter than Edwards...that didn't seem to matter. With all these over weight young people in the na tion, maybe he would be a good example for them.
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seashorelady Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 11:48 AM
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24. Edwards is very tall.
I stood next to him and would bet at least 6'2".
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 03:21 PM
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31. My DH and I have met with Edwards several times and he is 6ft.
My DH is exactly 6ft and their heads align in pix!
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 05:14 PM
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33. He is just tall and healthy looking
Tweetsy, I just bet has had trouble with weight control, he is a diabetic. Looks like to me he should have given Edwards a few compliments on how he had controlled his weight, even though he is on the campaign tail for a long time.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 08:41 PM
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14. The MSM could succeed in shutting Edwards out -- in which case the GOP will be in the race --
Edited on Wed Aug-08-07 08:42 PM by defendandprotect
because, IMO, neither Hillary nor Obama can win.

They will each bring out the nuts --

A Hillary campaign will be a rehashing of Bill Clinton's penis --

Even if the nation voted for Obama, the GOP will tell us that he lost because of racism . . .

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 08:43 PM
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15. It should be an Edwards ticket . . . Who for VP?
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 10:18 AM
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22.  He needs someone like Biden , just off the top of my head
Of course it still may turn out to be Gore and Edwards.
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goodgd_yall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 12:17 PM
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26. Why do you think Biden? n/t
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 06:18 PM
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35. Which would have been the kickass ticket of 2000.
Not many people realize Edwards was on the VP short list then, as was Kerry.

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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 12:28 PM
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27. Obama. IMHO an Edwards/Obama ticket would be unbeatable.
:hi:
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 06:08 PM
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34. The more I think of that
You may be right :hi:

But do you think America is ready for a Southern White Guy on the ticket...snark.
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bpeale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 12:38 PM
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28. Edwards/Richardson 2008! thats my ticket!
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vanboggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-08-07 10:22 PM
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17. There you have it
The Pukes want Hillary or Obama to win the nomination. It will give them a convenient excuse when they try to steal their third Prez election. Then they can say America was just not ready to elect a woman or a black man, blah blah blah...

I'm afraid they are going to "Howard Dean" Edwards, and that makes me sick since I would love to see him get the nomination. I think he's the real deal.
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surfermaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 10:17 AM
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21. You hit the nail on the head I don't think Hillary can win
And I am almost positive Oaboma can't win.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 12:12 PM
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25. The MSM is ignoring him so that we don't notice that they are
ignoring Kucinich. It is all a very clever conspiracy.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-09-07 12:43 PM
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29. Clever and corrupt and...
...completely undemocratic!

Many young people are used to getting their news from non-mainstream sources. I hope more Americans catch on ~ we need to put the msm out of business!
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