Dodd and Biden are assholes for supporting Hillary, against Obama

[Nimrod2005]

Heard Randi Rhoades talk about it first, saying Biden and Dodd know they are not going to win...etc. but kissing up to Hillary for a position in her administration if she goes all the way. Then it was discussed on one of the talk shows on TV tonight.

I have nothing against Hillary at all, but these two assholes, playing a game like this is, makes them typical filthy politicians...The punks have no principles, they are typical low life average politicians, and why should we be surprised? both of them have held office for a 1000 years, a record like this is not impressive, it just shows what kind of people they are. It takes a much different person to run for president to better the lives of many Americans and help build a better future for our kids...

Aiming for a potential cabinet position over having a real debate about a fucking war, about the worst disaster our country has ever faced, is criminal.

I fucking hate them for doing this...FUCK ALL POLITICIANS!!!

This is not in defense of Obama either, but compared to these two low lives, both Obama and Hillary (and Edwards) are a breath of fresh air!!! No wonder they are leading.:rant:

[MonkeyFunk]

1. Do you want a cookie now?

[Nimrod2005]

4. A tequila?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

2. Any evidence this is happening besides what Randi Rhodes said?

Sometimes Randi exaggerates and jumps to conclusions. I'd like to have some better proof than some radio talk show host's allegations. Not that I'm a Biden/Dodd fan -- I'm not -- but I need more than this before I'll jump all over them for "kissing up" to Hillary. If they are, I sure haven't seen it.

[Nimrod2005]

6. The people I saw on my TV tonight all pretty much agreed, not becasue

Randi said, but it was also their opinion...Noticed (I agree too) that both Biden adn Dodd just refuse to go after her in any way or shape...If they really want to win, why are they not going after her since she is leading?...etc. That kind of analysis which makes sense...IMO.

[msongs]

3. maybe you should blame randi rhodes - SHE is the one saying this, just her opinion nt

[Nimrod2005]

7. No, others had the same observation

unrelated to Randi's view...And I agree.

[AtomicKitten]

5. I've heard this from several pundits.

They are calling the race from where they sit. Doesn't mean anything more than opinion.

The ebb and flow dynamics of politics is fascinating.

[MADem]

8. There are always politicians who run for other jobs in the Prez races.

Why does this surprise you? Hell, why didn't you criticize Richardson too? He's running against BIDEN for SECSTATE, if he doesn't get his first choice job, VP.

You need to take a reality pill if that gets you upset, frankly. You haven't learned the rules of the game.

[Nimrod2005]

9. Richardson is not attacking Obama and acting all kissup to Hillary

He is staying out of it...Them two asses are defending her...etc.

[MADem]

14. His button hasn't been pushed yet. Give 'em time. They all do it. NT

[journalist3072]

10. Deep, cleansing breathes, please. And let's have a reality check

Just because Randi Rhodes and the MSM said that Dodd and Biden were kissing Hillary's a&s so they could audition for Veep, doesn't make it so.

It's quite possible that they agree with her on some of the major issues, and they wer simply validating some of her statements during the debate. And there's nothing wrong with that.

Just because they were agreeing with her, doesn't mean they want to end up on her short list for Veep, should she end up the Democratic nominee.

[Zensea]

11. Maybe they really do agree with her?

Hey, it's a possibility.
They may not have any principles, but that is a different issue.

[rodeodance]

12. they have an opinion on foreign policy sim. to Hil. That does not make them

* holes for pete's sake.

[MasonJar]

13. Why would a cabinet position be favorable to a seat in the US Senate,

where both are long time senators?

[Like It Is]

15. You're about a half a bubble off with that theory.

And that's all that it is, a theory. Theories are a dime a dozen.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

16. Biden and Dodd are only supporting Biden and Dodd

Notice that Biden also went after Edwards? Every "second-tier" candidate (with Richardson being in a tier by himself between the top 3 and rest) has attacked BO directly in the past two debates. Biden attacked Edwards in the last debate and Kucinich attacked him, albeit indirectly at YearlyKos. It makes sense for them to go after the tier above them right now. There is no point in them attacking HRC at this stage, especially since Edwards-Obama are doing it anyway.

[Like It Is]

17. I'm with you D/M/C. Some of these other people have vivid imaginations.

Biden & Dodd are trying to remove some of the deadwood in their path.

[calteacherguy]

18. I didn't realize deadwood could move deadwood. nt

[Like It Is]

42. Back to your one liners, I see.

I suppose you are really enthusiastic in electing Wall street's candidates, Hillary or Obama.

[Clintonista2]

44. Hey, at least he writes his own material. nt.

[calteacherguy]

49. Um....no.

Trying to get more enthusiastic about Obama, but he's made some mistakes lately that will be used against him. One of the troubles with Biden is he also lets things slip that the media grabs a hold on as well. Hillary is the most disciplined candiate, but hardly inspiring.

[Tellurian]

26. Factor in talking heads need to create wedge issues worthy of increasing ratings...

If the media doesn't hop-skip to their owners, they're pink slipped

[Major Hogwash]

19. And they're all from the Northeast!!

I didn't hear one word from Biden against Hillary during the debate.
Nor one word from Dodd against Hillary during the debate.

Instead I heard a lot of this -
"Joe is right" - from Hillary
"Chris is right" - from Hillary
"Hillary is right" - from both Biden and Dodd.

Go back and read the transcript at the NYT if anyone here doesn't believe me.

I don't listen to Randi Rhoades - I saw the same thing she described though.
Why?
Because it was that obvious!

[Nimrod2005]

20. Thank you!

[mrigirl]

21. What's wrong w/ being from the NorthEast?

And personally I saw Hillary appearing to kiss Biden's ass by mentioning HIS name in HER replies. It seemed to me that she wants Joe in her Admin. Joe has already said that he wants to be Pres and not VP many times. If Hillary wins and wants Biden then what's wrong w/ that? Biden is playing his own game right now for Pres but believe me if he gets VP or SOS he'll take it! We need him. He'll make a difference. The man knows his shit!

[Major Hogwash]

24. First of all, those 3 all think it will take 2 years to get our troops out of Iraq.

Biden disagreed with Richardson during the YouTube debate 2 weeks ago and said it would take 2 years to get our troops out of Iraq after Richardson promised that he would pull our troops out of Iraq in the first 6 months if he were elected President.

Hillary chimed in and sounded like she didn't even know how many troops are in Iraq today.

Dodd then stated that he would take the advice of the Generals in Iraq, but that he too thought that making claims of pulling our troops out in just 6 months was too optimistic and that it was premature to make such claims.

Most of our troops were pulled out of Vietnam in less than 6 months!

Now who sounds "naive and inexperienced"?

[Nimrod2005]

43. Are all three DLC?

[elizm]

27. And don't forget Hillary's 'wink' to Dodd. n/t

[Nimrod2005]

29. I saw that, not many commented on this?

[themaguffin]

22. Get a FUCKING CLUE

Biden was lucky he got to even speak. Dodd got some time to speak and just because they are making points from their experience.

Damn, people grow the fuck up.

[Nimrod2005]

30. Dodd and Biden need to get out of the race, bastards crooks

And filthy politicians

[murbley40]

34. ????

What is your problem? Even if they were willing to settle for cabinet positions; what about this makes them bastard crooks. Seems to me it would be one hell of a cabinet!!

[murbley40]

35. Gee,

I wonder who you support? yea I wonder?

[LittleClarkie]

48. So is that your ulterior motive for starting this thread

You just don't like these guys, and so you're ranting over someone's opinion, and calling them crooks because of it?

[Name removed]

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[Adelante]

23. They take positions - they are candidates in a primary race

What's the prob?

[mrgorth]

25. I like Biden

but it's obvious what they're doing.

[AnotherGreenWorld]

28. I think that's what Dodd is doing. Not sure about Biden.

Biden did point out that Obama's supposedly extreme ideas regarding Pakistan are actually current US policy. Maybe I was misinterpreting him.

[Nimrod2005]

31. Biden may be the slimiest Democrat in the Senate

He needs to drop out

[mrigirl]

32. Are you serious?!

[murbley40]

37. yep,

he is the slimiest ,okay,that's why we Delawareans keep electing him.:sarcasm:

[themaguffin]

40. Damn Biden & his actual PLAN for Iraq

[jillan]

54. Damn Biden for trying to get secret prisons closed and

how dare him try to help the people in Darfur?

[murbley40]

33. It is amazing:

how some people hear something said and because some blithering idiot news person or talk show host says it: they believe it to be the gospel!

SENATOR BIDEN HAS MADE IT PERFECTLY CLEAR SEVERAL TIMES,MOST RECENTLY LAST EVENING, THAT HE IS NOT CAMPAIGNING FOR ANYTHING BUT PRESIDENT. HIS REASONING: IF HE ACTUALLY WANTED TO BE SOS,HE WOULD BE BETTER OFF NOT TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT, BECAUSE HE WILL BEGIN TO TAKE SHARPER EXCEPTION TO HIS COLLEAGUES POSITIONS AND THAT DOES NOT GIVE WELL TO BEING OFFERED SOS,ETC. I do not know what Dodd id doing ,but I do know he does not deserve to be called all these names any more than Senator Biden does,even if they were going for SOS. :smoke:

[ToeBot]

36. Biden should content himself with the little fief BankAmerica bequeaths to its loyal retainers

The last thing this country needs is a Joe Biden with executive power and executive unaccountability.

[mrigirl]

38. What?????

You wanna talk unaccountability just look at the monkey now in office!!!! Biden is 100% accountable for all his actions, including why he voted for the supplemental funding to the troops. He has said many times if he loses the election over his vote it was well worth it. He is more accountable than anyone.

[Like It Is]

47. Go cast your vote on a video game.

[oasis]

39. The world's fed up with America's cowboy diplomacy. Dodd, Biden and Clinton

all understand that.

Facts are facts. Obama was wrong to throw down the gauntlet at one of our allies. Dodd and Biden rightfully cautioned the junior senator against using reckless language.

[ripple]

41. Richardson did the same over the Geffen flap n/t

[jillan]

45. Omg - do you really think that???

I thought it was obvious what they were doing.

They know Hillary is going to be the frontrunner.
They see support for Obama going down.
They are trying to break out of the 2nd tier.


Get it? Or do I have to explain it further?

[BenDavid]

50. Gee, maybe they agree with HRC

because what she says is correct. Just because you are running against someone does not mean you cannot agree with that person when they say something that is about as close as what you would say.
I do thank you
Ben David

[Nimrod2005]

51. Please tell Biden to shut the fuck up, come and talk to us when you get above the 1%

[Cameron27]

52. That's absurd, let's tell everyone but the popular guys to shut up.

Biden did go after Hillary a few weeks ago, if I can find the article, I'll post it.

[jillan]

53. So you are saying you are against Freedom of Speech?

Were you hoping Bsh takes that away from us too?
Sounds like it.

[jillan]

55. Why is it always about Hillary?

Everything anyone does is about Hillary?????

It couldn't be that Biden and Dodd are trying to move up in the polls by questioning someone in the top tier?
No! That would only happen when someone is running for President.

Wake up people. Not everything is about Hillary!