The N.Y. Times finally understands .... We are pissed off

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http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/09/washington/09dems.html?ei=5090&en=c5a6942bb34fed84&ex=1344312000&adxnnl=1&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&adxnnlx=1186659392-bMJ1Iy85ZV5q9Eye4XxEFw

The Blogs Are Alive With the Sound of Angry Democrats

By CARL HULSE
Published: August 9, 2007
WASHINGTON, Aug. 8 — Progressive and liberal groups and left-leaning blogs are furious, tossing around fighting
words like “spineless,” “craven” and “weak.”

So much for the hopes of Democratic leaders that they could avoid a withering political attack by clearing the way
for Congress to approve an expansion of the Bush administration’s terrorist surveillance program before the August recess.

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“Ultimately, it was the Democratic leadership on the Hill that rolled over to this demand,” said Caroline Fredrickson,
a top lobbyist for the American Civil Liberties Union. “Instead of standing strong and standing on principle, they
panicked and gave the administration not only what it has been asking for, but more.”

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“We should have stood our ground,” said Representative Jerrold Nadler, Democrat of New York. “We had a bill that
did everything they said was necessary for national security. I think we could defend that.”

Progressive bloggers agreed. “Cowards,” said the headline on a post Tuesday on the Daily Kos Web site, which
listed the 41 House Democrats and 16 Senate Democrats who sided with the White House and Republicans.

[Olney Blue]

1. But do our elected representatives understand our anger?

They don't seem to be listening.

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2. some do but sadly many don't

Steny Hoyer of MD is a good example .... he is against impeachment
because he thinks it will hurt in 2008. My thoughts are screw 2008
and let's try to hold thses thugs accountable for their crimes now and
force the repugs to defend the indefensible.

[HereSince1628]

3. Seems they believe we have more durable party loyalty than memory

I suspect they are betting that 14 months from now we will have forgotten all about this and are standing up praising the incumbents.

[MuseRider]

5. They don't seem

to care much either.

[Doctor_J]

4. Yes, once we started firing on Dems, we get some attention

When we're angry at Smirk we're invisible. I hate the MSM

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6. Does anyone here really think they give a horse's rosette WHAT we think?

I am now convinced there is a level of activity between our Party and the other side to which we are not privy. This was no normal capitulation. FISA actually removes our right to privacy. I amso pissed off at the Democrats who enabled that Bill, that I wan't them all GONE from this Party. If my rights are taken away by the Neo-cons, I want it to be over (figuatively) the dead bodies of the Democrats I elect to protect it. This was handed to Bush on a silver platter, and I don't give a sh*t WHEN it "sunsets", one day is too long without our Constitutional rights to be given away. PLUS, I don't trust ANY of them enough to believe we'll get them back when the Bill "sunsets" anyway.

I AM PISSED TO THE MAX. There is blood in the water now, and every single DINO who votes with the other side against our best interests and over our wishes get UN-elected so fast it will give them whiplash.

TC

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7. Is there a link to the list of 41 House 16 senate dems that voted

for this monstrosity?

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8. the list

Evan Bayh
Tom Carper
Bob Casey
Kent Conrad
Dianne Feinstein
Daniel Inouye
Amy Klobuchar
Mary Landrieu
Blanche Lincoln
Claire McCaskill
Barbara Mikulski
Bill Nelson
Ben Nelson
Mark Pryor
Ken Salazar
Jim Webb

House:

Jason Altmire (4th Pennsylvania)
John Barrow (12th Georgia)
Melissa Bean (8th Illinois)
Dan Boren (2nd Oklahoma)
Leonard Boswell (3rd Iowa)
Allen Boyd (2nd Florida)
Christopher Carney (10th Pennsylvania)
Ben Chandler (6th Kentucky)
Jim Cooper (5th Tennessee)
Jim Costa (20th California)
Bud Cramer (5th Alabama)
Henry Cuellar (28th Texas)
Artur Davis (7th Alabama)
Lincoln Davis (4th Tennessee)
Joe Donnelly (2nd Indiana)
Chet Edwards (17th Texas)
Brad Ellsworth (8th Indiana)
Bob Etheridge (North Carolina)
Bart Gordon (6th Tennessee)
Stephanie Herseth Sandlin (South Dakota)
Brian Higgins (27th New York)
Baron Hill (9th Indiana)
Nick Lampson (23rd Texas)
Daniel Lipinski (3rd Illinois)
Jim Marshall (8th Georgia)
Jim Matheson (2nd Utah)
Mike McIntyre (7th North Carolina)
Charlie Melancon (3rd Louisiana)
Harry Mitchell (5th Arizona)
Colin Peterson (7th Minnesota)
Earl Pomeroy (North Dakota)
Ciro Rodriguez (23rd Texas)
Mike Ross (4th Arkansas)
John Salazar (3rd Colorado)
Heath Shuler (11th North Carolina)
Vic Snyder (2nd Arkansas)
Zachary Space (18th Ohio)
John Tanner (8th Tennessee)
Gene Taylor (4th Mississippi)
Timothy Walz (1st Minnesota)
Charles A. Wilson (6th Ohio)

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9. K&R - Thanks