Hillary the Heavyweight

[rinsd]

By Irene Tsikitas, NationalJournal.com
Updated: 4:44 a.m. PT Aug 15, 2007

WASHINGTON - In a little more than a year, Democrats will gather in Denver to nominate their presidential candidate for the 2008 White House race. Conventional wisdom has been that the nominating contest is wide open, it's still "too soon to tell" who the party will rally behind next year, and Democrats are notoriously fickle anyway. But national polls paint a different picture: Hillary Rodham Clinton is increasingly looking like the undisputed front-runner.

The New York senator has a 20-point lead over second-place Barack Obama among registered Democrats responding to the latest CNN/Opinion Research Corporation poll. Her edge over Obama rose an impressive 8 points after the Illinois senator appeared to be gaining on her earlier this summer.

But Clinton's steady lead in primary matchup polling has been well established. What's perhaps more telling is another CNN/ORC release from the same poll showing Clinton head and shoulders above Obama and third-place contender John Edwards on a number of key indicators. The results suggest Clinton's strategy of keeping one eye on the primary and another on the general may be appealing to primary voters hungry for a Democratic win after eight years of GOP rule.

A strong 55-percent majority of registered Democrats named Clinton the most likely to beat the Republican nominee in next year's election, and a whopping 72 percent said that, if nominated, she could beat the GOP nominee next year. Perhaps less surprising were the nearly six in 10 respondents who said Clinton had the "right experience to be president." On that measure, one-term former Sen. Edwards and first-term Sen. Obama were named by only 11 percent and 9 percent of Democratic respondents, respectively."

More at the link - http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/20275799/

[Alamom]

1. Thanks for posting. eom

[obnoxiousdrunk]

2. But all

the pundits on DU say she can't win. How so ?

[saracat]

3. MSM promoting their favorite agin.What a surprise!

[beastieboy]

7. They shouldn't publish anything unless it's bad for Hillary?

I don't understand why the media is being blamed for her popularity.

[saracat]

16. For the same reasons the media is being blamed for the Iraq War and Bush's election!

It is NOT an accident that Hillary is endorsed by Rupert Murdoch and Fox News! Haven't you heard Hannity and his continuous "praise" of Hillary? This is an orchestrated effort by the corporate controlled media to get Hillary the nomination. She is their favorite Democrat.

[AnotherGreenWorld]

21. They build her up just to put her down--in the GE.

[saracat]

31. I wouldn't be so sure!

[ronnykmarshall]

10. and the Hillary bashers using the same "MSM" line ..

what a surprise.

[Captain Hilts]

4. Polls about speculative impressions. Ignore. nt

[Colobo]

5. She is doing quite well. It will take a very strong effort by Obama or Edwards to beat her.

[RaleighNCDUer]

6. Clinton had the "right experience to be president."

What experience is that?

She's a 1 term senator, just like them. Just because we've been aware of her for longer, it doesn't mean she has more experience!

[beastieboy]

8. Actually this is her second term, but whatever...

[Virginia Dare]

9. I'm guessing she's including her eight years as First Lady..

and de facto adviser and confidante to her husband?..:shrug: It's unconventional, but I suppose it would count.

[Colobo]

11. Laura Bush should run then.

[ElizabethDC]

14. I think Laura Bush's role as first lady differs somewhat from Sen. Clinton's n/t

[Virginia Dare]

19. I'd be hard pressed to find many similarities at all..

between the Clinton and Bush Presidencies. The both lived in the White House, sort of?...:shrug:

[Virginia Dare]

18. I'd actually love to see that..

:D

[William769]

12. Well when you put up lightweights against a heavyweight, what do you expect?

BTW K&R!

[Colobo]

23. Who is a lightweight?

[William769]

25. All of them but Edwards. NT

[Colobo]

29. Wow... I guess Edwards has to be very frustrated to see the lightweight Obama

outfunding and outpolling him every single time. What a skilled lightweight! :)

[William769]

30. Thats about to change my friend.

:)

[emilyg]

13. Thank you.

[Capn Sunshine]

15. Funny That. Dean was 20 points up before Iowa as well w fundraising supremacy

We saw how those polls translated into primary wins.
Can we expect the same MSM torpedo of HRH?

[rinsd]

17. Except Dean wasn't up 20 points before IA.

In the CBS poll taken 1/12 to 1/15, Dean was at 24% with Clark @ 12% and 15% undecided.

In a FoxNews/Opinion Dynamics Poll taken 1/7 to 1/9, he was at 20%, Clark at 11% and not sure was at 27%.

CNN/USA Today/Gallup on 1/9 to 1/11 had Dean with a 6 point lead over Clark.

Time/CNN taken 1/14 to 1/15 had Dean with a 5 pt lead over Clark.

Newsweek on 1/8-1/9 has him with a 12 pt lead on Clark.

The numbers over and over again point to at best a 12 pt lead (averaging probably around an 8 pt lead) over Wes Clark in the national polls prior to IA.

The difference between Dean and Hillary is that Hillary has gone over 40% and had 20+ pt lead in a wide vareity of polls for more than a single instance. Even at his very peak of popularity Dean was not able to do that.

http://www.pollingreport.com/wh04dem.htm

[Balbus]

20. Butt out!

No one asked for any of your goddamn facts! We got a hate-thing we're trying to get rolling and you're throwing speed-bumps in the way.

[Cameron27]

24. Ah I love you lol.

I'm so glad you keep all those pesky polling facts handy because I never do. I hate them, but I sure like it when someone breaks them down and explains what the hell they all mean.

[William769]

22. And Dean is no Hillary.

your statistics mean nothing when you are comparing apples to oranges.

[losthills]

26. Hilary the anchor

is more like it.

Nominating Broomhilda is the same as handing the presidency to the'Pugs....

[billyoc]

27. I wouldn't underestimate Hillary.

But she couldn't even manage 2nd place in the California straw poll.

Yes, THAT California...

[ChiciB1]

28. Oh My, More Hillary? Think I'll Pass, I'm Stuffed & Couldn't Eat Another Bite! n/t