OK folks...once and for all....

[Lucinda]

Clinton IS experienced - she has spent her entire adult life in public service, elected and otherwise, read her damn bio and stop spreading crap

EDWARDS IS capable of being an HONEST advocate for the poor, and understanding the real issues regardless of how much freakin money he has

OBAMA is...oh crap...surely you get the point...

SOME of you need to do your own damn research and stop spreading the cheap-shot talking points. FACTS are your friends.

Ok...flame away...just getting sick of the same old crap showing up on every thread.

I can't get good broadband where I am, and I'm tired wading through thread after thread polluted with all this inaccurate crap. It's OK to say you JUST DONT LIKE candidate A or B.

EOM

[Vadem]

1. Sponsoring a flag burning amendment with John McCain????....

This is what turned me off of Hillary--I will not vote for her in the primary--She is a panderer!

If she wins the primary, I will vote for our Democrat..... She will not get my vote in the primary!!!!!!

[kimmerspixelated]

2. okay, I'll admit ,

I don't like candidate A. She is too much like a rethug. for my taste.
Maybe because she IS an experienced politician works against her, ya think?

[durrrty libby]

3. So how much do you get paid to say something positive about Hillary?

[Lucinda]

6. $1.95

[Perry Logan]

4. And while you're at it, you can stop flaming Bill Clinton, the Democrats in Congress, etc.

[ronnykmarshall]

5. Bravo!

[Mutineer]

7. You know, I can't claim my partner's resume

when I apply for a job. If I have to hear her try to claim that she had a co-presidency with Bill one more time I'll :puke:

[Hekate]

8. That's how they framed their marriage in his first campaign for president, remember?

Remember?

I still have a button with four sparkly young faces on it with the words "The Dream Team". The faces were: Bill and Hillary Clinton and Al and Tipper Gore.

So yeah, she's probably entitled to a little of that now.

Hekate

[Muddy Waters Guitar]

17. Except that her one "major policy" in Clinton's first term was the 1994 disaster

of that health care reform attempt that blew up in her face, and all our faces-- to the point that Hillary has now pathetically waved a white flag and become a sycophant to the insurance companies. Not exactly a distinguished record for her. Furthermore, you should be wary of citing this notion of a "team presidency" in 1992-2000 for no other reason than that it bumps up against the 22nd Amendment-- the people elected Bill Clinton on the ballot in 1992 and 1996, not Hillary Clinton. At the very least, Bill had charm and charisma, which Hillary utterly lacks.

[Hekate]

9. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

:applause:

Hekate

[saltpoint]

10. I heard Chris Dodd keeps a harem in his basement.

Swear to god.

[Inuca]

11. LOL!!!

You are guilty of waking up and scaring my dog! He does not expect me to start out laughing hysterically when we have a quiet evening, just the two of us. He acts like a puppy, but is not so young anymore, and if he has heart problems as a consequence, please PM me with your address so I can send you the bill from the vet.

[saltpoint]

12. LOL! I'm not sure I can front that vet bill. Whoever's paying for

Scooter Libby's defense fund -- send the bill to that guy.

[Inuca]

14. Fred T?

Do you think he likes immature middle-aged springer spaniels?

[saltpoint]

32. Well, he might. He has a trophy wife. He might just as well have a trophy dog.

Because I think he's about to have an atropied campaign.

[Inuca]

34. Hey! Your bill just went up!

How dare you call my baby a trophy dog :mad: :-)?!?!? By the way, I also have a very handsome mixed breed, that just strayed in a couple of years ago obviously abandoned, and who adopted us.

[saltpoint]

49. I love the mixed breed dogs, and always did.

The smartest dog we ever had was a who-knows-what mixed, and wow do we miss her.

[liberalpress]

45. No, Chris Dodd keeps...

his HAIR in basement

[illinoisprogressive]

13. Okay. I loathe Hillary

[ruggerson]

15. And she says such nice things about you n/t

[ElizabethDC]

18. Really?! I'm so shocked to hear that! Oh, wait, never mind. n/t

[Forkboy]

20. Breaking News from the Bleedin' Obvious Department.

I suppose next you're going to tell us that the sun is hot.

[Lucinda]

23. Ya know....

I kinda figured that. :)

[Muddy Waters Guitar]

16. Experienced in what?

"she has spent her entire adult life in public service, elected and otherwise"

First of all, WTF does Hillary's prior job with her law firm have to do with public service?

Second, like Obama hasn't done this? Well before he was a Senator from Illinois, Barack Obama was in the trenches in the Illinois Statehouse, while Hillary Clinton was the First Lady-- not exactly much of a public service job. Moreover, the one thing for which she's renowned from her First Lady days is the 1994 health care reform fiasco, which the GOP is going to be hammering her about constantly if she's nominated. And even then, it's hard to give her much credit since she's converted into a sycophant of the insurance companies, as Michael Moore pointed out in Sicko.

Besides, Hillary's public experience was so valuable to her that she made the intelligent, courageous decision to, uh, give George W. Bush a blank check to start the Iraq War-- and continued to support that war for many more disastrous years.

Experience in itself is only valuable if it leads to intelligent decisions, which in Hillary's case it has not. In fact, two of our best Presidents in the 20th century-- JFK on our side, and Eisenhower on the GOP side-- were actually quite inexperienced in the political realm, but were inspiring and astute executives when they took office. I'd rather have a younger yet more astute person like Barack Obama, who was smart enough to foresee the Iraq disaster from 2002, then a blundering sycophant to corporations, the warmongers and the military-industrial complex like Hillary Rodham Clinton, who made a terrible decision in 2002 that has resulted in the violent killings and maimings of hundreds of thousands of people in Iraq (our own as well as our allies and the Iraqis), then compounded it by continuing to support that disastrous conflict.

[bpeale]

42. Obama

<<Besides, Hillary's public experience was so valuable to her that she made the intelligent, courageous decision to, uh, give George W. Bush a blank check to start the Iraq War-- and continued to support that war for many more disastrous years. >>

And Obama, after being against the war, votes to continue to fund it for years on end. And Hillary's first lady papers are now out of reach of anyone. She can make it up as she goes along. If she does not intend that those papers be available till after the 2008 election, then she has something to hide & I want to know what it is. Sorry, I don't trust Obama or Hillary.

[Hekate]

19. Someone posted a fantasy thread about DUers running the country....

The OP asked people to write what they thought would actually get done. I regret to say all I could think of was the hellacious amount of snarking and sniping that goes on here.

Oh yeah. My candidate walks on water and your candidate was vomited forth from the bowels of Hell. Way to unify the party and get things done.

Hekate

[Forkboy]

21. If someone posts that Jesus walked on water.....

you can be sure that someone will claim it's because he can't swim.

[Hekate]

22. rofl! Thank you for the laugh!

:rofl: :hi:

Hekate

[Cameron27]

47. That's the best !

:rofl:

[Lucinda]

26. I had the same reaction :)

[eridani]

24. Or maybe instead of saying that you don't like a candidate--

--explain what you don't like about his/her policy proposals. Oh, wait. At least some of the threads labeled as "bashing" do exactly that.

[snowbear]

25. You've been here just over a month and you're already dissing DU'ers?

Sheezuz freak'n Keyrist.

[Lucinda]

27. No darlin...I've been here for years

But I spent the last couple of them busy "not dying" so my id went away....

But even if I was new...doesnt take a genius to see the snarkiness...which you illustrate nicely, btw ;)

[Name removed]

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Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[Lucinda]

29. You're a real peach. :)

[snowbear]

30. It's "you're" ....

[Lucinda]

31. If you're going to correct spelling

it's best to post it BEFORE it's edited :)

EOM

[William769]

39. Yep sure is a peach!

[Lucinda]

46. Now thats just scary!

:D

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[Lucinda]

36. Hi GrovelBot!

You're such a cutie!

[beastieboy]

35. Great post!

[Lucinda]

37. :)

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[William769]

38. Great Post!

Thanks. :hi:

[UrbScotty]

40. *** KUCINICH WEARS EAU DE GROVELBOT PERFUME *** YES, PERFUME! ***

[Lucinda]

44. WD40?

I do LOVE the smells at the hardware store....maybe I need to look further at Kucinich? :D

[Dragonbreathp9d]

41. If you want to go for who has the most experience:

Richardson wins by alot. Not who I want, just thought I'd point that out.



Vote Kucinich!

[Lucinda]

43. I LOVED the first Richarson commercial

that aired here in EAST TN...The White House job Interview piece was great! Prior to that, I didnt really pay any attention to Richardson until one of the televised Kerry-Edwards events when Richardson spoke. So, I'm still learning about him...

I'm closest to Kucinich on a lot of the issues, but I'm still candidate shopping....which is part of the reason I'm so annoyed at all the crap posts...its hard to get real info when you're sorting through all the BS talking points. GOOD arguments i can handle...but the smear stuff is counter-productive...

[Dragonbreathp9d]

51. yeah, agreed

unless it is truly something important-ly bad. But yeah, all the Richardson camp commercials have been great - he's just really sucked hard in the debates. I like the man though, he's done a lot of good and would make a good pres. but like I said, not my top choice

[Lucinda]

52. Yeah...the debate definitely did not show him at his best

I'd like to see a fuller debate format, at THIS stage of the game, that provided more information than we are getting in these "sound-bite" answers...

[Cameron27]

48. Good post

:thumbsup:

[Lucinda]

50. :)