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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 05:55 PM
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I hate to say this but Rudy has a point on the experience factor with the top three democrats
Edited on Fri Aug-17-07 05:57 PM by bigdarryl
This guy is a scum but he has a point with our top three leading democrats http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3iW37AwWvo&mode=user&search=
YouTube - Rudy On Restoring The Oval Office
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 05:58 PM
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1. Listen to him? Fat chance.
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 06:00 PM
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4. whats that supposed to mean. the point is none of the top three have executive experience
that resonates with people maybe not hear on DU but in red state america its a problem. thats why i like GOVERNORS running
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 05:59 PM
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2. I refuse to watch what he said, but his experience is pretty pathetic and limited.
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Cameron27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 05:59 PM
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3. No thanks. I'll wait to read it...maybe
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 06:01 PM
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5. What are you a Guliani fan now JESUS!!!!!
eom
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 06:02 PM
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7. NOPE just stating the old saying HOUSTON WE HAVE A PROBLEM!!!
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liberalnurse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 06:07 PM
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12. Neither did John F. Kennedy
Edited on Fri Aug-17-07 06:12 PM by liberalnurse
hold an Executive Office or manage a city or state..................and he was elected by the people and did a good job as President. Hillary has been First lady of Arkansas and First Lady of the United States which is more responsibility experience than Mayor of New York City.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 06:01 PM
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6. What point does he have?
He claims they don't have "executive experience" because they haven't "run" a state, city, or business.

Ridiculous!! He's got nuthin'.
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bigdarryl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 06:03 PM
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8. OK but don't be surprise when i say I TOLD YOU SO
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 06:04 PM
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9. I don't know what you're even telling me.
:shrug: What is the point?
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Zensea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 06:06 PM
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11. I won't be
Folks that are in the habit of saying don't be surprised when I say I told you so usually find a way to say it even if the facts don't back them up.

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ruggerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 06:06 PM
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10. He's also got a problem
with far right Christian wackjobs staying home rather than voting for "the big city elitist who likes to get dressed up in wimmen's clothes."

And that's a good 20% of the Republican electorate.
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AnotherGreenWorld Donating Member (958 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 06:08 PM
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13. Not really.
About half of the people who have ever been president were Senators at one time.

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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 06:33 PM
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14. Bush had executive experience, too.
Look how well that turned out. I really don't want an uber-fascist getting anywhere near the WH. Hes turned into quite the whack-job. Barrack, Hilliary, or John would be light-years better than this clown at the helm.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 07:01 PM
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17. So did Rummy and Cheney, in a previous admininstration...
I trust the judgement of our top three far more than the whole Bush Administration put together.
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AX10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 06:35 PM
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15. IBTL.
Hopefully.
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FreakinDJ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 06:40 PM
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16. Quit drinking the Kool Aid friend
nt
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phillysuse Donating Member (683 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 07:07 PM
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18. He's right - we need Gore/Clark
to run - that's the experience factor - beats a lousy mayor, a Mormon MBA, a third rate actor and 4th rate Senator, a brain damaged elderly veteran, a formerly obese Born Again Thin Bap[tist minister, and the rest of the Seven Republican dwarfs.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 07:09 PM
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19. We need the experience that Cheney and Rumsfeld brought! Nixon too!
They all had lots and lots of experience.

:puke:

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Peregrine Took Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 07:11 PM
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20. No experience problem with Al Gore, our next president. Wait and see - it
will happen.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 07:14 PM
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21. I didn't watch, but I sincerely hope he tries to raise this issue during the campaign JESUS!!1
Clinton can slam that one out of the park. She's worked in the state house in Arkansas for twelve years, then in the White House for eight. Republicans in Arkansas and then in DC continuously whined about how much power she had, how much Bill relied on her when he was president, and how bad that was since she wasn't elected.

And poor little Rudi was a mayor.

That one's easy to handle. Giuliani's a fool if he's raising that one.
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SaveElmer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 07:24 PM
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22. Man, I think you are right JESUS!!!
eom
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 07:28 PM
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23. Wow...that's funny!
"She's worked in the state house in Arkansas for twelve years, then in the White House for eight."

AS A FIRST LADY!

How many laws did she pass while First Lady....got link?


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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 08:39 PM
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25. Alright, let me give you a primer, since you failed government.
Executives do not pass laws. They execute them. Or rather, they see that they are executed. That's the whole point of Giuliani's comment--that the top three candidates are Senators, thus they have plenty of experience passing laws, and none at being an executive and working to have the laws executed (See, that's why they call it the "executive" branch. Clever, huh?).

Now, having educated you on that, she was responsible for initiating much legislation, for instance the Child Health Insurance Program's passage in 97. She ran committees and task forces on health care, education, child immunization, asthma, Gulf War Syndrome, child welfare, adoption, breast cancer, prostate cancer, women's rights (Her speech before the Fourth World Conference on Women in Beijing is often listed as on of the most influential speeches of recent times), and on and on. She helped Janet Reno create the Office on Violence Against Women in the State Department.

In short, she initiated the passage of legislation, and was one of Bill Clinton's top advisers and top executives. She was a key employee in the daily running of the White House. She set up her office in the West Wing--the first "First Lady" to do that. Nothing on the resumes of Obama, Edwards, Giuliani, or any other Republican or Democrat running demonstrates as much executive experience.

Oh yeah, and she's also worked as a legislator, obviously, meaning she's got experience with both branches of government, again unlike Obama or Edwards. And more, since she's in her seventh year in office, and will have eight years experience as a senator by the election, meaning she's got more legislative experience than Obama, Edwards, or Giuliani, too. They're all lawyers, so they all have judicial experience, though none as judges. Hillary and Obama have both been law professors. Edwards and Hillary have both been partners in private legal practices. Giuliani, as far as I recall, is the only one with prosecutorial experience, for what that's worth.

You don't have to like her, you don't have to vote for her, you don't even have to say nice things about her, but learn what the fuck you are talking about JESUS!!!1
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 10:28 PM
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26. Thanks for the snide remark and the load of bullplop dribble
You are delusional if you think a First Lady has any experience with legislating laws, passing bills and such.

If you're counting her experience when she tried and failed miserably at working on healthcare reform, I'll let you brag about that experience. Funny thing how nothing happened after that, unless you're counting on the War on The Poor, I mean, "welfare reform", which left many single mothers in dire straights. You'd think as "a key employee in the daily running of the White House", she would have noticed her husband getting his wanker serviced in the White House...those were some fun times for all of us who believed her husband was telling the truth.

You are correct that Obama or Edwards do not have any experience as a First Lady.

In case you missed it, Obama served eight years as state senator and has almost three years as Senator. That's more than Hillary Clinton. Oh, but wait. State senators don't really do anything. I stole your next "talking point".

:rofl:






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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 07:33 PM
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24. My father always said,"You have point.Unfortunately it's the top of your head."
That's my motto for Rudy. :)
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Progressive Friend Donating Member (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-17-07 11:08 PM
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27. Here is a better video about Giuliani (from Bill Maher)!
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MasterDarkNinja Donating Member (139 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 12:16 AM
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28. I'd trust Hillary's experience as first lady more then Rudy's mayor experience
I mean come on, is running a huge city really comparable to being married to a guy who was the president for 8 years and obviously learning how he ran a lot of things while he was president? Sure Rudy may have served in the executive branch, but it was for such a tiny part of America that highly populated or not it's just not comparable to being president and governing over 300 million people.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 12:22 AM
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29. Rudy has somehow inspired Hate/Distrust/and a High Pissed Off Level w the FireFighters
Nuff said.

Those FFs can smell smoke...and its coming from Rudy who blows smoke a lot....
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trayted Donating Member (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-18-07 06:46 AM
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30. No, they don't have as much experience ruining government and screwing people as the GOP candidates
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