Democratic Self-Appreciation Thread #5: President Hillary Clinton will be remembered for...

[Colobo]

Let's now assume Hillary Clinton wins the nomination and the presidency. After 4 or 8 years in the WH, what do you think will be the most positive aspect of her presidency that will be remembered?

I say a strong economy- I see President Clinton bringing some fiscal sanity and economic progress to our nation.

[SaveElmer]

1. She will end the Iraq war...and we will have sanity returned to the Supreme Court...

Among many other things...

[Colobo]

2. One thing. :)

[SaveElmer]

4. It was a two part answer... ;-)

[billyoc]

18. Better try to get rid of term limits now, then.

Clinton already said she'd keep the troops in Iraq through both of her terms.

[ElizabethDC]

20. You got a link to back that up? n/t

[JTFrog]

27. Well she has said it a couple of times,

although she always tries to backtrack and say that she really means to end the war and isn't for permanent occupation. 10 years isn't permanent I guess, but wouldn't it cover two terms?

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/23557

I've previously posted an msnbc link where she said she plans on keeping troops there for at least a decade. Asked how many troops would be left behind under her plan Clinton demurs, claiming that she would bow to “the advice of military officers.” Undoubtedly, however, these open-ended missions—securing Iraq’s borders, suppressing resistance, training its military and, above all, assuring control of its oil, not to mention protecting and supporting all those engaged in these activities—would require the permanent basing of tens of thousands of US soldiers and marines in an occupation that would last for decades.

[billyoc]

29. I'm surprised you haven't seen it already.

http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/?q=node/23557

[ElizabethDC]

32. Yes, I've seen that - it's based on hearsay from an unnamed source

it's not something she's said publicly, or that's been heard from more than one source, so I absolutely wouldn't believe that it's part of her plan unless I heard it from Hillary herself.

[JTFrog]

37. Well, from her own

website:

Hillary opposes permanent bases in Iraq. She believes we may need a vastly reduced residual force to train Iraqi troops, provide logistical support, and conduct counterterrorism operations. But that is not a permanent force, and she has been clear that she does not plan a permanent occupation.

Again, she may say she's against permanent bases, but these missions would require tens of thousands of US soldiers and marines and would last for decades. I guess that just leaves the word "permanent" up for interpretation.

[ccpup]

3. interesting experiment

I say she's remembered for bringing sanity and rational thought back to the White House and the US Government, for ending torture and rendition, for beginning the process of rebuilding our reputation back in the eyes of the World and for ending the financial bleeding our country has barely endured under the Republicans.

I also think she'll be remembered for being attacked more viciously than any other President. Some people just will never accept her winning (is she is the nominee and wins in the general election).

[FreakinDJ]

5. Remembered for LOSING the Election that couldn't be lost

n/t

[journalist3072]

7. You might want to learn to spell before attacking Sen. Clinton. eom

[durrrty libby]

10. TeeHee That type can't help themselves. Kind of sad

[FreakinDJ]

11. Lesser mistake then GIVING America to the republicans

because if anyone supports Hilary for nomination - THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE DOING

and to you think this country can take 4 more years of constitution shredding Neocons in power?

[ElizabethDC]

12. Evidently you can't spell her name correctly either. n/t

[FreakinDJ]

15. Still a lesser mistake then Hillary

n/t

[journalist3072]

16. Your post has absolutely no merit. eom

[jaysunb]

17. Don't worry about your spelling.

It's the thought that counts, and I'm thinking along the same lines as you. :thumbsup:

[Xipe Totec]

6. Evicting squatters from the White House nt

[FreakinDJ]

14. 54% OPPOSE her - FAT CHANCE OF THAT EVER HAPPENING

N/T

[Xipe Totec]

22. I'm impressed by your mastery of uppercase letters

It makes your statement somehow more convincing.

putting the pronoun in lower case is a nice touch too.

[emilyg]

23. Just answer the question - no lectures needed

[FreakinDJ]

40. What question ?????????????

Seems to me you need to ask it first

[avrdream]

8. Hard to limit it to one thing....

but I believe that the U.S. will have a much better reputation in the world as a consequence of her presidency.

[percussivemadness]

9. Giving Bill Clinton a Blow Job

and not getting impeached.....:)

Just some levity on the Saturday afternoon

Peace

[dsc]

13. Returning merit to government

After 8 years of crony capitalism Hillary will return merit to government. A FEMA which actually works, an Attorney General who will be the best lawyer in the country not some religious nut or incompetent hack.

[Colobo]

19. Obviously people don't understand this is NOT a thread to criticize our candidates

If you don't have anything positive to say about our candidates, STAY AWAY FROM THESE THREADS!

[billyoc]

34. If you don't want criticism, don't mention DLC candidates in the thread.

Or post them in the Hillary Clinton forum.

[Colobo]

38. They are called Democratic Self-Appreciation Threads

and they focus on our presidential candidates. They give a chance for all of us to show some appreciation to those that we like and to those we might not like but might wind up elected.

And, by the way, as an Obama supporter, I have no intention of posting anything on Hillary's forum.

[ruggerson]

21. Hopefully, Stevens, Ginsburg, Kennedy and Souter

will all resign the moment she's inaugurated, giving her four vacancies to fill, which she will promptly do with four very liberal 40 year olds.

Those 4 plus Breyer (he's still young enough, let him stay) will restore sanity to the court.

[jaysunb]

25. Why Souter ?

Don't quite understand that....

[ruggerson]

28. I want anyone on our side between sixty and death out of there

so they can be replaced with much younger judges. We need to replace as many as we can. We might only have the WH for four years.

[jaysunb]

30. OK , but...

could we keep him around til he's , say, 80. That's 12 years of good sound legal thought.

[ruggerson]

31. Ok

as long as you move in with him, keep him on multi vitamins, don't let him drive and if he so much as SNEEZES, call the White House immediately.

[jaysunb]

45. rofl !

n/t

[saracat]

24. Establishing a true "bipartisan" relationship with the GOP.

She is known for working well with the Republicans.The late Strom Thurmond loved Hillary.(And watch,this will be considered bashing).We actually need a good relationship with the other side in oder to pass legislation but whatever)

[depakid]

26. "fiscal sanity and economic progress to our nation."

Deregulation of the financial industry and media consolidation weren't exactly the sorts of things that the first Clinton administration should be proud of.

Much of what is coming to pass began with the sell out Dems of the 1990's.

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[Tellurian]

35. Universal Health Care...

I know, not good enough for some, but she definitely has challenged herself personally to find a way to make it happen. I believe she will and it will be the much vaunted historical moment of her presidency. Bringing the troops home is also another one of her priorities, not meaning to diminish the importance of accomplishing the task by placing it second. I think bringing the troops home is on the top of her list.

[Moderate Dem]

36. Fighting the war on terror

the way it should be fought.

[Perky]

39. Keeping a hostile Republican majority in Congress at bay for 8 years

Because if shwins the Nomnationnn the Country is going to want a Republican Congress.

[FlaxieB]

41. Her run for the Presidency which she lost in 2008 ans still married to Bill.

I guess she will be changing his bed pans in their old age just like Nancy Regan. There will be no Presidential library in her future.:thumbsdown:

[durrrty libby]

42. So inspirational...I could cry........sniffy. (I really love my sig. Check it out)

[emilyg]

43. Wouldn't you for your husband/wife?

[NoPasaran]

46. PWI?

Tsk, tsk.

[Dawgs]

44. Bill Clinton. That is all.

[seasat]

47. She'll be a great fiscal manager

One thing that Hillary has addressed that other top tier candidates haven't adequately addressed is the need to balance the budget and improve the efficiency of government. The Clinton/Gore reinventing government initiative did something that few executive branches has accomplished. They reduced the size of government and reduced bureaucratic inefficiencies. Hillary will restart that program which will be a relief after the mismanagement of the "MBA" president. This will lead to lower deficits and more money available for needed programs like universal health care.