Edwards goes after Clinton, Obama

[oberliner]

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Obama's campaign has portrayed his relatively new arrival in Washington and his pledge for change as an asset. Clinton spent most of the 1990s in the White House as the country's first lady and has touted that as invaluable experience to change the way President Bush has run the country.

Edwards said voters shouldn't accept any of that.

"Small thinking and outdated answers aren't the only problems with a vision for the future that is rooted in nostalgia," Edwards said in the prepared remarks. "The trouble with nostalgia is that you tend to remember what you liked and forget what you didn't. It's not just that the answers of the past aren't up to the job today, it's that the system that produced them was corrupt — and still is."

Edwards also planned to tell voters they can't simply replace "a group of corporate Republicans with a group of corporate Democrats, just swapping the Washington insiders of one party for the Washington insiders of the other." He criticized "ideas and policies that are tired, shopworn and obsolete."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070823/ap_po/edwards;_ylt=ArylO4CreFK3.jp6IReM.jes0NUE

[brentspeak]

1. k and r

:kick:

Edwards 2008

[elizm]

2. Umm...

"The trouble with nostalgia is that you tend to remember what you liked and forget what you didn't."

Is that like his vote....I mean COSPONSERING of the IWR? What a hypocrite and fake he is.

[iamjoy]

3. No Need For Name Calling

If you read Edwards's "attack" on Obama, it is really quite mild. I wouldn't call it an attack, more of a distinction. Using terms like "hypocrite and fake" are uncalled for in my opinion.

Of course, you bring up a good point (about forgetting the IWR), but maybe that's just nostalgia on the part of Edwards.

I do think that when you start going negative you open yourself up to criticism.

[elizm]

5. Sorry...I call like I see it. The OP did say Edwards goes after Obama. nt

[jgraz]

7. Yeah, I wouldn't be so quick to go after Edwards

After all, Obama is going to need his voters if he's going to have a chance at the nomination. And vice versa. Both Obama and Edwards need to stay focused on defeating the greater evil.

[sandnsea]

15. That's not their strategy

Their strategy is to knock Obama out because they know that anybody who would go for Hillary is already there. So they think if they can knock Obama out, all his supporters will go to Edwards and that will be enough to take out Hillary. Bad strategy, but that's it. So don't go thinking you can sweettalk them into playing nice, because it's not going to happen.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

8. Edwards has been honest about his real record on Iraq, unlike a certain candidate...

Who is the hypocrite and fake? This candidate won't even tell voters what he intends to do about Iraq if elected. Well, scratch that. He does lie about what he intends to do on the stump and during debates. He does not tell voters his real position, although he did state it recently in an elite foreign policy magazine read by a small number of people who mostly already knew his real position.

[zulchzulu]

12. You should get a better crack dealer

Obama hasn't said what he would do about Iraq if elected?

Maybe you never went here:
http://www.barackobama.com/issues/iraq/

Unlike Edwards, Obama was against the war from the beginning. It's on video, ferchrissakes (see link above).

Johnny just so happened to be on the Senate Intelligence Committee in 2002 and KNEW the intelligence was bogus, yet had the forthright ability to not only vote for the Iraq War Resolution and have jarring warmongering speeches for the war that the White House used as examples for support from Democrats, but also had the magical ability to get together with Joe Lieberman to co-sponsor the Iraq War Resolution that Bush loved to have handed to him.

So...a guy who not only supported the war but helped write the free pass for Bush to go to war suddenly is to be seen as a guy who is against the very war he helped start? Yeah, he smiled and said he was sorry... yeah, we should forgive him 'cuz this time he's your super special progressive pal...

Yeah...right... Hypocrite? Fake? That would be too polite.

:crazy:

[AndyA]

14. He's human. He made a mistake that he regrets.

At least he's admitted it, and is trying to do something about it.

That does not make him a hypocrit nor a fake.

[frogcycle]

16. what a pigheaded statement

he mentions it frequently - brings it up himself

I have yet to call your candidate or Hillary names. I actually sent constructive suggestions to your candidate through a mutual acquaintance who approached me to join the campaign. So far he has not heeded and I am not joining, but have tried to keep an open mind to all contenders. But the vitriol coming from the supporters of the two "front runners" is getting damned tiresome. My open mind is rapidly narrowing to just six acceptable candidates.

[AndyA]

4. the system that produced them was corrupt — and still is

That pretty much says it all to me.

The fact that corporate America and the GOP are going after Edwards moreso than the others tells me they really, really, really don't want him in the White House.

So Edwards has to be a good thing for America.

[elizm]

6. Edwards was 'one of them' until he left to run for Prez.

He has no right to criticize or 'go after' others now.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

9. And Obama is "one of them" now yet that doesn't stop him from criticizing what he is part of now nt

[carolinayellowdog]

11. Has no right?

Hmmm

[elizm]

17. You're right...

I should has said he has no credibility when criticizing them.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

10. Follow the money. Who is corporate America lining up behind?

It isn't Edwards, who is crushed by even Chris Dodd among several key corporate sectors. Dodd likely receives more money than Edwards for corporate America, although Dodd, Edwards, Richardson, Biden combined likely would not equal the corporate support of two particular Democrats and Giuliani and Romney.

[zulchzulu]

13. Are corporate lawyers a part of corporate America?

http://www.law.com/jsp/article.jsp?id=1185268003561

Edwards has snagged about $7 million in contributions from lawyers who work for corporations. Is that corporate America?

Probably not, huh...

:crazy:

[Adelante]

18. Heh

"... you tend to remember what you liked and forget what you didn't."