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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 07:11 AM
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Obama says Hillary's record as First Lady Counts As Experience
Pressed by Comedy Central's Jon Stewart last night to say whether he thinks Democratic rival Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's past as first lady gives her an "experience" advantage, Sen. Barack Obama said of Clinton that "she's a very capable senator ... she's very smart ... people rightly give her credit for having been a participant in the Clinton administration and for doing some heavy lifting on issues."

But a key issue, he said, is "do you have life experience that's going to help you make decisions?"

http://blogs.usatoday.com/onpolitics/

Well, yes Obama, Clinton does... starting with the life experiences YOU JUST GAVE HER CREDIT FOR!

Clinton was politically active when you were just in grade school - and she has experience on both sides of the aisle.

She was the commencement speaker at Wellesley in 1969, chosen by her fellow students--there had never been a student commencement speaker there before. The scheduled speaker was Sen. Edward Brooke of Massachusetts, who Hillary had campaigned for, a Republican, the first black to be a member of the U.S. Senate in a hundred years. In his remarks he was patronizing, Hillary thought. He seemed to defend the Nixon administration's conduct of the war, and didn't mention the wrenching events of 68. When he finished, Hillary got up and extemporaneously excoriated him. As a result of that speech, she was featured in Life magazine as exemplary of this new generation of student leaders. They ran a picture of her in pedal pushers and her Coke-bottle glasses. That article made her well known in the student movement in the U.S.*

When she arrived at Yale, her reputation preceded her. It was perhaps greater than her real accomplishments. She was becoming a generational spokesperson, anointed by others. That's when she met Bill; at that point she was much more famous that he was. This was the year of the Black Panther trial in New Haven. She monitored the trial to see if there were any abuses of the rights of the Panthers on trial, and helped schedule the monitors. Her reports were turned over to the ACLU.*

That summer she went to work at the most important radical law firm in America at that point: Truehaft, Walker and Bernstein in Oakland. They defended the Panthers.*

After Yale she got a job on the staff of the House Watergate impeachment committee. *

She worked on Bill's congressional campaign, Governor campaigns, was first lady and the most investigated woman in American history. The rightwing slime machine gave her everything she had and she STILL beat them while in the White House, and in two Senate Campaigns.

Other candidates talk about Health care policy. She's walked through that fire.

And this is all in a nutshell. Her life experiences so eclipse those of Obama's there isn't even a real comparison.

So thank you, Obama! Your supporters aren't going to like that you count her years as First Lady as experience (they sure don't), but you've now given even more credibility to it.


(*from Alternet)
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Apollo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 07:17 AM
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1. The wild-eyed wing of the pro-Hillary camp
"Other candidates talk about Health care policy. She's walked through that fire."

If I remember right - Mrs Clinton failed to convince Congress to support her plan.

Since when is publishing a plan and watching it fail the same as "walking through fire" ????


As for standing up and winning agains the GOP. Hillary won 2 elections in the State of New York.

Her name never appeared on a national ballot. The ticket in 92 and 96 was Bill Clinton and Al Gore.
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WillTheGoober Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 06:17 PM
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23. :)
She was a First Lady.
Come on!

That is impressive. :-)

She created a Health Care Theory that caused a lot of heads to turn -- and she was only First Lady.

Winning isn't the measure in that instance.

Peace.
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 07:30 AM
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2. ... the longer this goes on ...
.... the more I'm convinced that its been agreed behind closed doors that the party-proper will foist these 2 on us as the '08 ticket. Not sure which one where, but ... these are the corporate Dems latest edition spokesmodels. :(

Oh, for a true representative Democracy. :spank: ARGH.
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BeyondGeography Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 07:33 AM
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3. Exactly where did she learn how to talk out of both sides of her mouth?
Cuz no other candidate can touch her in that department.
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 01:26 PM
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4. And her years on the Wal-Mart board?
do those count as experience? Hardly ever hear that experience touted.
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BenDavid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 02:20 PM
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11. Gee, you are years behind the times.
HRC was on this board until 1992 when WJC ran for President.Prior to 1992 when she was first lady of Arkansas, HRC became the first woman appointed to the Wal-Mart board, and tried to get the company to hire more women managers,and more then once tried to bring this to the Boards attention, but was denied a vote and thus laid on the table....
So, all the bad that has befallen Wal-Mart these past several years in the decade of 2000 HRC is responsible for the mis-treatment of employees. WOW! Kinda like you fault HRC and blame her for the 3700 deaths of our men and women in Iraq....
Truly un damn believable...

I do thank you
Ben David
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 03:45 PM
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13. Wow! She Tried?
That's great - cuz that's all I ask of people in positions of power, that they try.
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WillTheGoober Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 06:19 PM
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24. haha ...
Yes ...

I tell you -- on DU, you'd think she was responsible for every single bad thing that's ever happened.

I really was not aware of the hate there was out there for Hillary from the liberal side until I began reading the comments on DU.
It's been awakening I have to say.

Peace.

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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 01:27 PM
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5. Did you watch the interview? He kicked ass.
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Broke Dad Donating Member (345 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 01:54 PM
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6. You forgot the Rose Law Firm and Tyson Foods
Even though it was in Arkansas, she earned those stripes. Somebody in the family had to pay the mortgage while Bill was Governor.

Oh, wait . . . now that Bill has a pension, Hillary can work in public service and not worry about the Clinton family budget.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 01:55 PM
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7. He was amazing. Even when Jon offered him a little bait to attack Hillary he did not accept.
He impressed the hell out of two people that watched it with me.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 01:57 PM
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8. You need to come to our side. We'd love to have you on board, rinsd.
:)
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 02:01 PM
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10. Never say never but I think he will have to take the nomination for that to happen.
But thanks Katz.

It is always a pleasure.

:toast:
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WillTheGoober Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 06:21 PM
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25. Yep ...
I think the Dems have really made it a classy campaign.
They realize that somebody is going to be the nominee -- and they need to be part of moving the party into the White House.
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zulchzulu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 01:57 PM
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9. Does she wanna take credit for NAFTA, DOMA, Telecom Act too?
Hey, she was there! Wee!


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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 02:23 PM
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12. gotta take the bitter with the sweet
I believe that's a karmic law of the universe.
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Ethelk2044 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 03:50 PM
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14. She will have to take bitter with sweet. Plus she wants to increase
H1B Visas for workers coming into the US.
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dugggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 04:55 PM
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21. Increasing H1B visa's for SKILLED workers is the smartest policy
to keep our high tech economy growing. We can't
compete in the low tech industry making clothes & shoes
and such. My kudos to HRC for backing that policy.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 04:08 PM
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16. wait a minute. This was OBAMA'S words. Clinton didn't say it.
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Ethelk2044 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 04:17 PM
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17. We need to take in consideration the outsourcing of jobs since
she wants credit for when she was in the White House. We also need to look result of NAFTA and how many jobs have been lost since it was implemented. If you wants to take credit as she states 15 years of experience. How many jobs were lost because of the NAFTA issue. We need to look at how many companies today are moving jobs overseas of outsourcing (just this year along).
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 04:32 PM
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18. wait a minute. This was OBAMA'S words. Clinton didn't say it.
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draft_mario_cuomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 04:35 PM
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19. What difference is there between the CEO's favorite Obama and Clinton on outsourcing?
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dugggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 05:01 PM
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22. For every job lost due to NAFTA, we have gained 2 jobs
in industries which can compete. Yes, the low tech area
lost jobs due to NAFTA but the lowering of prices has
helped the high tech industry compete at an advantage.
There are alwyas pluses and minuses in every policy
initiative.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 04:05 PM
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15. All the candidates have "life experience" and have done intersting things.
She is not more qualified and has better experience because she "married" a president. Give me a break. Yada Yada. She was not part of the adminsitation officialy. She failed at healthcare. Firt Lady does not count. Maybe Nancy Reagan should run? She had 8 years as First Lady and was an "advisor" as well. What do ya think.Nancy Reagan for Prez because First Lady "counts?" Sheesh!
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DrFunkenstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 04:42 PM
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20. I got credit for trigonometry, but that doesn't mean I did it well
Listen, absolutely nothing of what you suggest convinces me that she should be a President. Except for her excellent job muddying the waters on health care for the next decade (then cozying up to the health care industry ever since).

I'll count her years as First Lady, but be careful what you wish for. Because the years may not be good to her. Its not easy becoming the most divisive figure in the last 20 years.
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