Polling data shows Hillary Clinton is most Democrat's 1st choice & many like her as their 2nd choice

[rinsd]

In the most recent Cook Political Report (taken Aug)

1st choice went as follows:

Hillary - 39%
Obama - 21%
Gore - 10%
Edwards - 8%
Richardson - 4%
Everyone else at 1% or less.

When 1st & 2nd choices are combined

Hillary - 63%
Obama - 41%
Gore - 24%
Edwards - 22%
Richardson - 7%
Biden - 4%
Kucinich - 2%
Everyone else at 1% or less.


See page 22-25 on these crosstabs - http://cookpolitical.com/races/report_pdfs/2007%20poll_crtab_aug2.pdf

This trend is also reflected in Cook's average of all its polls taken this primary season

1st # is 1st choice, 2nd # is 2nd choice

Hillary Rodham Clinton - 33 53
Barack Obama - 22 40
John Edwards - 12 26
Al Gore - 10 25
Joe Biden - 1 4
Bill Richardson - 3
Chris Dodd - 1
Dennis Kucinich - 1
Mike Gravel - - 1
(VOL) Other -2 2
Not sure - 15 23

See page 4 - http://cookpolitical.com/races/report_pdfs/2007%20poll_tpline_aug2.pdf

Here's a link to Cook's reports - http://cookpolitical.com/poll/default.php

Gallup shows a similar trend when they remove Gore from polling(her numbers rise at a similar rate as other candidates and do head to head matchups with Obama & Hillary



I'm not saying Hillary is most people's 2nd choice.

Just that the assertion that Hillary will gain zero support if other candidates should have to drop out is absurd.

[IntravenousDemilo]

1. You mean "most Democrats' choice", of course.

Republicans are people, too -- well, sorta-kinda -- and they have their own favourites. Now, if you could just get everybody except Democrats to stay away from the polls in the next election, these data would actually mean something.

[rinsd]

2. Whoops, thanks (nt)

[TwilightZone]

3. But, but...nobody I know likes her!

The polls must be fixed.

:sarcasm:

/sarcasm off

Interesting that her lead is pretty consistent between the first-choice and top-two-choices polling.

I think most Dems will vote for her if she's the nominee, contrary to the claims of many around here. The alternatives - voting for Rudy or Mitt or staying home - are not options.

[David Dunham]

4. Obama's toast

[RaleighNCDUer]

5. Democrats' 1st choice, at 61%,

is someone other than Hillary.

[rinsd]

6. Yes but that does not mean that 61% will not vote for Hillary.

All it means is that currently the other 7 candidates in the field have garnered their own support.

[jgraz]

7. Numbers from current and likely primary voters are meaningless

The grassroots turnout against a threatened Clinton nomination will be enormous. People are sick of ineffective, corrupt, rethug-lite corporatists, and disaffected progressives will come out in droves to defeat her.

[rinsd]

8. And if you clap your hands, you can save Tinkerbell.

"The grassroots turnout against a threatened Clinton nomination will be enormous. People are sick of ineffective, corrupt, rethug-lite corporatists, and disaffected progressives will come out in droves to defeat her."

That must be why Kucinich is kicking ass in the polls. Oh wait...

[jgraz]

9. Keep beating your "inevitable" drum

It's gonna be fun to pull these posts come February.

[rinsd]

10. Yes it will.

Especially the ones about no one likes Hillary or how the progressives are gonna swamp the polls in an anti-Hillary tidal wave.

[leftynyc]

11. I gotta tell you

I'm a Hillary fan and will vote for her in the general with no problem - you are one obnoxious person and if you think you're helping her, you're a moron also.

[rinsd]

12. Thanks for sharing.

I'll take your sincere concern to heart.

:eyes:

[leftynyc]

13. Yes, I'm sure Hillary is just loving how you

alienate people who should be her natural allies. Funny, I always she was too smart to have people like you sticking up for her. Maybe she isn't.

[Broke Dad]

14. Hahahaha

Welcome to Iowa!

[rinsd]

15. Why would HIllary care about what I post?

"Funny, I always she was too smart to have people like you sticking up for her. Maybe she isn't."

Are you under the impression that I am connected to the campaign?

[Name removed]

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[rinsd]

18. I guess that means I'm off the Christmas card list.

Oh well.

[Stephanie]

19. lol!

:hi:

[juajen]

20. WOW, speak for yourself.

I believe she helps Hillary a lot.

[leftynyc]

21. Who else would I speaking for?

And I think you're wrong. She's turing me off and I'm very inclined to support Hillary if she is the nominee.

[William769]

23. Rinsd is one of the sweetest people here and I have yet to see him deserve to comment you just made.

How on earth could this thread be taken that way? Whatever your smoking back away from it.

Now if you were to say that about me, I would totally understand.

On EDIT: This post was meant for someone else. It's confusing.

[rinsd]

31. Willy, I just don't know what to say.

:blush:

:hug:

[jgraz]

22. See, we can all agree on a few issues.

At least we can be sure we're both in the majority on this one. :hi:

[leftynyc]

28. Man, I just want a Dem in the whitehouse

and the Dems with a majority in each house. Judges are my issue. I remember when people said she couldn't win her senate race and were proven very wrong. But all these bashing threads (for all the nominees, but esp Hillary) are tiresome. Why do the pukes work for them?

[jgraz]

29. So do I

Which is why I can't support Hillary. It's patently obvious that Rove is drooling at the prospect of running against her, and he's not doing that for no reason. And even if she does win the presidency, I've yet to hear one way that she's committed to supporting the true ideals of the Democratic party.

And no, promising to win the "New War" and handing out "Cold War Medals" is not a Democratic principle in my book.

[leftynyc]

33. She's not my favorite, that's for sure

Although both my parents and my twin sister love her. I will vote for her in the general if she's the candidate. And I think she'll beat the pants off Rudy. You haven't even begun to hear about him yet. Many people are holding their fire on him until he's the nominee. Take it from a New Yorker - he'll be crying like a baby no matter who our nominee is.

[William769]

24. You won't be here then, your head will have exploded from Hillary's nomination

[jgraz]

30. Taunting is really all you have, isn't it?

Almost 10,000 posts and I've yet to see you make a substantive contribution to a single discussion. It's kind of pathetic, really.

[William769]

32. Says you.

But if you want to play that game, I can also say the same about you.

[jgraz]

34. Now we get Rubber/Glue from you?

It's like the greatest hits of adolescent posters. :rofl:

[William769]

35. Just giving you what you gave.

Maybe you should reevaluate yourself as a adolescent poster.

[jgraz]

36. And the hits just keep on coming

You truly are a never-ending source of entertainment. :hi:

[William769]

37. Talk about sophomoric?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3471414&mesg_id=3471541

Your right, the hits just keep on coming, but they are coming from you.

[Stephanie]

40. omg I am laughing so hard!`

:rofl: :hi:

[Nederland]

27. Grassroots turnout? Please.

I heard the same thing with Lieberman, and look who still has that Senate seat.

[Selatius]

16. John Edwards would likely do better in the general election than Hillary could.

As far as Rasmussen polling reports go.

[rinsd]

26. Edwards does currently enjoy a slight edge over Rudy & greater edges against the rest than Clinton.

Though I think any of the big 3 are quite capable of beating any of the Republicans.

[William769]

25. K&R!

Thanks for posting. With al the slime today this was welcomed.

[oasis]

38. k&r

[WillTheGoober]

39. :-)

[Gloria]

41. They didn't ask me....