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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 02:53 PM
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PEW: Potential Problems for Dems, Hillary has lowest overall favorable ratings of leading candidates
Edited on Thu Aug-23-07 03:46 PM by flpoljunkie
Sen. Hillary Clinton is by far the most popular presidential candidate among her own party’s voters, but has among the lowest overall favorable ratings of the leading candidates. In sharp contrast, the front-running Republican candidate, Rudy Giuliani, evokes relatively modest enthusiasm from the GOP base, but is as broadly popular with all voters as any candidate in either party.

The latest national survey by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press, conducted Aug. 1-18 among 3,002 adults, finds that 55% of voters who offer an opinion of Clinton express a favorable view of her, while 45% have an unfavorable opinion. Other leading presidential candidates, including Clinton’s Democratic rival Barack Obama (64%), have much higher overall favorability ratings.

Yet Clinton is highly popular with her own Democratic base. Nearly nine-in-ten Democratic voters (88%) who offered an opinion of Clinton express a positive view – with 38% saying they have a very favorable opinion. That is the highest percentage that any of the seven 2008 candidates tested – Democrats or Republicans – receives from their parties’ voters.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/025431.php

Among the leading Democrats, Obama and John Edwards have higher overall favorability ratings than Clinton (64% and 61% respectively, among voters who could rate them). Each of these candidates also has far greater political crossover appeal than does Clinton. Two-thirds of independent voters who were able to rate Obama (67%) have a positive impression of him; 64% of independent voters express a favorable view of Edwards. That compares with Clinton’s 53% positive rating among independent voters able to rate her.

Clinton also draws by far the lowest rating from voters from the opposing party of any of the candidates tested. Just 19% of GOP voters who can rate Clinton express a favorable view of the New York senator, while four times as many (81%) express a negative opinion. Roughly four-in-ten Republican voters (39%) able to rate Obama have a favorable opinion of him, while Edwards gets a 33% rating among GOP voters.

Link to entire Pew Poll: http://people-press.org/reports/pdf/350.pdf
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 02:58 PM
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1. Something for everyone.
I'll take 55-45 for Clinton with 20% very favorable (that was the highest of any candidate). There's some stuff there for Clinton can't win the GE crowd.

But I think we can stop the BS about Democrats not liking Hillary.

Sen. Hillary Clinton is by far the most popular presidential candidate among her own party’s voters
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 03:01 PM
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2. Dems ignore Hillary's unfavorabilty and not so great crossover appeal at their peril.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 03:04 PM
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3. McGovern, DuKakis and Adlai Stevenson were also popular among the Dems.Tell ya something?
Edited on Thu Aug-23-07 03:05 PM by saracat
Those negatives are a disaster. I am sorry but we really need a candidate that can WIN the General.I don't give a flying fig what they say the Dems will nominate.The Dems might approve a talking pig and it wouldn't win! I want us to WIN for God's sake. Why should we pick the candidate that the rest of the nation hates? The one that will polarize the apathetic Reugs to go to the polls to vote AGAINST her.Sheesh.I don't get it.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 03:12 PM
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5. Dukakis was also kicking Bush's ass in GE polling so he is a strange example.
"The one that will polarize the apathetic Reugs to go to the polls to vote AGAINST her.Sheesh"

The GOP Noise machine will try and gear up the troops no matter what. You think they will sit still and let a black man or populist working against poverty walk in the WH?

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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 03:43 PM
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8. The national polls indicate the GOP hates none of our candidates as much as Hillary!
They WILL go to the polls to vote AGAINST her. OTOH, there are some of our candidates they would actually consider voting FOR as they don't like their feild.With Hillary , we lose those votes.And unlike Dems, the GOP voters and Indies actually VOTE. Dems sit on their butts and talk but they don't vote.This is a fact.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 03:07 PM
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4. Hear!Hear!
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 03:14 PM
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6. Folks'll warm up to Hillary once she's pitted against the eventual GOP nominee.
American voters are fed up Republican flim flam artists.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 03:25 PM
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7. I dunno, I think the hatred of Hillary might just trump that. And there is nothing to warm up to.
She just doesn't have a "warm and fuzzy " personality. I don't particularly need that in a candidate but a lot of the electorate does. Unfortunately, in crowd at least, she does not project"likability.". I have hear it said that she is better in small groups.I met her in a smaller group and still thought she was "aloof" and a bit "condescending".Not to me, but in general.But it might have been an off day for her.Who knows?

But I do not want to take a chance with such high negatives and an established reputation.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 04:05 PM
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9. Bush was "a guy you'd like to have a beer with". America yearns for a competent administator.
Edited on Thu Aug-23-07 04:06 PM by oasis
That's Hillary.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 04:08 PM
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10. Really? What has Hillary administrated? I thought she was a Senator!
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:12 PM
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16. That's right, Hill never attended Administrator U. like all of the other administrators.
:eyes:
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:48 PM
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19. It is a fact that when the argument pertaining to competant administration
is used it is usually pointing to a "Governor". That is why America has elected so many Governors.They have administrative experience.To my knowledge NONE of our curreent candidates except for Richardson, current Governor of New Mexico, and Kucinich, Mayor of Cleveland, have ANY administrative experience to be judged on.Your claiming people will look to Hillary as a "competant adminstrator" is a joke.Using your agrument, voters would choose Dennis or Bill. Sheesh.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:58 PM
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20. "joke". Laugh all you want. The joke's on you if you "truly" believe Hill's not competent.
:rofl:
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 03:04 PM
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21. I have never said she wasn't competent.Quite the contrary. I would probably
not like what she does but she is certainly competent. I said she had NO administrative experience.That is not the same thing.Neither do most of the cadidates.That being said, she has an uphill fight in the election that is why I don't want her to get the nomination.
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 04:31 PM
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11. The dems who don't like her will hold their noses and vote for her
but the repukes will come out in droves to vote against her and the indies will just stay home.

She could win the primary, but she'll lose the general.
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flpoljunkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 05:04 PM
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12. Tony Auth got it right way back in January...
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 05:13 PM
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13. That's THE WINNER! My First Reason A Long Time Ago When I
really DID consider Hillary as someone I wanted to become our nominee! Since then I have many more reasons why I DON'T want her as our candidate!

I WILL NOT campaign for her and can only hold my breath that I don't have to HOLD MY NOSE if she is picked as the nominee! I DO NOT want to vote for her.

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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:16 PM
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17. If her campaign doesn't recruit losers to work for her in the general, she'll be okay.
It's all in the attitude.
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 05:25 PM
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14.  No takers on Hillary bet
For the second time in a row, I proposed a bet at my once a month poker game, which is populated exclusively by moderate to very liberal democrats ( myself included of course). At least one strong Hillary supporter among em too, and none that dislike her as much as I do. The bet being simply that we lose if she's the nominee, and again , no takers. And remember, this was my poker buddies; we meet for the express purpose of betting money ( note to agent Mike ---REAL small stakes stuff). By the way, I WILL vote for her if she's (god forbid) our nominee---still far better on at least some very important issues such as judicial appointments, than any republiklan. But I truly fear we're handing the White House to Rudy or Mitt etc. with HRC running. I hope to god I'm wrong...
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RaleighNCDUer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-23-07 07:23 PM
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15. Now there's an angle I haven't considered.
What do the Vegas bookmakers say about it, if she gets the nomination. They cover everythig - they've got to have odds on this.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:18 PM
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18. A coupel places have done gambling odds. They think it will be Hillary too.
Edited on Fri Aug-24-07 02:19 PM by rinsd
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