Obama on Daily Show: some of the Republican Candidates "are decent people." Which ones, Obama?

[wyldwolf]

:shrug:

[ncabot22]

1. He said Huckabee was decent - eom

[TwilightGardener]

6. I saw that. He knows Fuckabee doesn't have a chance in hell--a smart, safe choice.

(Plus, the Huckster is a frequent guest on TDS). Obama DIDN'T say McCain, although he's a Senate colleague, because he and McCain hate each other. I thought that was kind of telling. Nobody thinks Giuliani, Thompson or Romney are "decent".

[draft_mario_cuomo]

12. Huckabee does have a chance. He is moving up in Iowa

Plus, he is the odds on favorite for the VP pick on the GOP side right now.

[ruggerson]

16. Huckabee doesn't believe in evolution, stem cell research and hates gay people

how the FUCK is that decent, Barack?

[DrDan]

42. I did not know he was so anti-gay? n/t

[DrDan]

41. I also got that impression in watching him the past few weeks.

Of course - his stand on evolution makes him a bit of a creep . . .

[draft_mario_cuomo]

2. Ah, Obama always trying to be everything to everyone...

If the media actually presses him to name some Republicans watch how some of his netroots supporters suddenly think Ghouliani, McCain, Romney, or whoever Obama annoints as "decent people" are great...

First his Reagan praise in his book and now this...

[NYCGirl]

3. He didn't say Giuliani, McCain, or Romney. He said "Mike Huckabee." NT

[wyldwolf]

5. well, there's one. But he said "some." So... Rudy? Who?

[NYCGirl]

7. Why do you care so much? You want to campaign for them?

:rofl:

[Cha]

20. lol!

:)

[ncabot22]

9. Hey, wyldwolf

He didn't mean it literally. If you watched, you would have noticed when he said some, Jon Stewart laughed and called it a backhanded compliment. I think Obama was trying to be, gasp, diplomatic! ;)

[draft_mario_cuomo]

13. Obama (D-Everything to everyone) said "some." That means more than one. Who else?

Ghouliani
Romney
McCain
Tancredo
Brownback
Paul
Thompson

[NYCGirl]

22. Ah, I love the smell of fake outrage in the evening.

:evilgrin:

[alteredstate]

46. Why do you hate Barack Obama?

And why are you obsessed with him?

[ncabot22]

I'm not sure if you watched

but, if memory serves, he paused when asked the question and then said "some of them are decent people" to which Jon Stewart replied "What a backhanded compliment" and then Obama mentioned Huckabee. Pretty amusing.

Hope you are having a good evening, DMC. :)

[draft_mario_cuomo]

17. I am, I hope you are as well

:hi:

[Kagemusha]

What NYCGirl said. Should've watched the Youtube.

Wasn't like Obama kept what he was doing any great secret. Jon complimented him for it too.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

15. This is a guy who praised REAGAN in his book

This is part of a consistent pattern.

[Sapphire Blue]

24. Obama praised Reagan in his book?!?!?!?

[draft_mario_cuomo]

27. As usual, he played it both ways on Reagan

He criticized Reagan as well but here is the chief bone he threw to his Republican readers:

==“All of which may explain why, as disturbed as I might have been by Ronald Reagan’s election in 1980...I understood his appeal.... Reagan spoke to America’s longing for order, our need to believe that we are not simply subject to blind, impersonal forces but that we can shape our individual and collective destinies, so long as we rediscover the traditional virtues of hard work, patriotism, personal responsibility, optimism, and faith.”==

==Reagan’s message “spoke to the failure of liberal government,” government at every level had become “too cavalier about spending taxpayer money.... A lot of liberal rhetoric did seem to value rights and entitlements over duties and responsibilities.... Reagan offered Americans a sense of common purpose that liberals seemed no longer able to muster,”==

Here is Obama on Clinton's Third Way (ironic given how much his fans vilify Clinton's Third Way):

==Clinton's Third Way went beyond splitting the difference," he writes. "It tapped into the pragmatic, nonideological attitude of the majority of Americans."==

Sound like what a certain Illinois senator is running on?

[Kagemusha]

30. I'm sorry you think politeness and civic values are sins.

I'm really sorry you think that disputing a politician's issues rather than attacking the politician personally is low, vulgar behavior, whereas personal attacks are noble.

[Tellurian]

43. Obama, "The Appeaser" wants to heal the country...

His campaign is going down in flames, yet he wants to be the Uniter...like someone else we know!

[Laurab]

72. Do you have a link for the "going down in flames"

info - everything I see has him doing quite well, and there was a great article about him in Salon today about him, saying he is probably the best crossover candidate. It's very important to get elected, not just win a primary.

There is NO comparison to Obama and "someone else we know", and these anti-Obama threads are getting so tiresome. I mean, you guys are grasping at such ridiculous straws. Do you really think Hillary or Edwards would have said "no I hate all the republicans"? Come on, post some good stuff about your candidate. This is pitiful.

[Tellurian]

95. Gee, I was going to ask his supporters if any word has come down yet...

on his dropping out?

[BeyondGeography]

4. Hucky was the only one, and he has said some classy things lately

as any HRC supporter knows.

[wtmusic]

8. Decent compared to...something. nt

[Colobo]

10. "Some" is a very general, loose term which in this case meant very few.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

18. Few out of 7. Who else behind Huckabee? Here are the possibilities

Romney
McCain
Giuliani
Thompson
Brownback
Tancredo
Paul

[illinoisprogressive]

11. Wyld, would you rather he said Hillary? she's a republican

[draft_mario_cuomo]

19. In what ways is HRC a Republican? Is it because she is a DLCer?

A DLCer endorsed Obama just a day or two ago. It was hyped on his website.

[wyldwolf]

37. *** Let's see if you have the knowledge to even try backing that up ***

[Forkboy]

14. How many posts have there been about certain Repubs liking Hillary?

You didn't seem too concerned about that.

[Cha]

23. And hillary mingling with a

certain right wing publishing czar.

[wyldwolf]

38. and how many Obama supporters have wagged their fingers and said "bad Hillary! bad!"

[Forkboy]

58. Both sides ape the other,then blame the other for their behaviour.

[calteacherguy]

21. Ron Paul for starters. nt

[draft_mario_cuomo]

34. Well, according to Obama, Paul has the "judgment" to be prez unlike...

...HRC, Edwards, Richardson, Biden, Dodd, and Kerry. :puke:

[wyldwolf]

39. you obviously have no idea who Ron Paul is

[dionysus]

25. as the flop sweat from a BS DLC post drips down into the gutter..

:rofl:

[illinoisprogressive]

26. DLC is a shadow republican group. Look at their policies.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

28. Obama on the Clinton's DLC Third Way

==Clinton's Third Way went beyond splitting the difference," he writes. "It tapped into the pragmatic, nonideological attitude of the majority of Americans."==

This is exactly what he is selling, although he is repacking it as "unity."

[AtomicKitten]

33. Actually Obama is able to discern and discuss issues --

on an intellectual level that escapes some here.

[wyldwolf]

40. why does Obama copy them on policy and rhetoric?

[TeamJordan23]

82. List some examples on the war, healthcare, foreign policy, etc?

[alteredstate]

29. Looks like Obama hit it out of the ball park this time

if this petty shit is all these folks can come up with.

[wryter2000]

65. You got that right

Pretty lame.

I usually manage to recognize bash the candidate threads and avoid them. For all the candidates. This one suckered me. No wonder people have been complaining about DU lately.

[jenmito]

70. delete-written under wrong post

[Laurab]

73. He must have....

they're getting pettier and pettier - maybe if the candidate they liked did something to post about, they could do that instead, but I don't see that happening.

[TSIAS]

31. I think it's sort of him being polite

Like when a Senator defers to his "friend from state X". Sure, I'd like to hear him call that Republican a douchebag or a Son of a bitch, but that's not accepted in modern politics.

I'd bet Hillary would say the same thing if asked.

[AtomicKitten]

32. Sorry he's not asshole enough for you.

[killbotfactory]

35. Should he spit in the face of every republican he sees?

Jesus. Some people....

[Tellurian]

45. Anyone advocating for Republicans IS suspect!

Obama's speech to the Chicago Council on Global Affairs is a continuation of the Bush/Cheney Iraq Policy...:

"Our men and women in uniform are performing heroically around the world in some of the most difficult conditions imaginable. But the war in Afghanistan and the ill-advised invasion of Iraq have clearly demonstrated the consequences of underestimating the number of troops required to fight two wars and defend our homeland. That's why I strongly support the expansion of our ground forces by adding 65,000 soldiers to the Army and 27,000 Marines.

But adding troops isn't just about meeting a quota. It's about recruiting the best and brightest to service, and it's about keeping them in service by providing them with the first-rate equipment, armor, training, and incentives they deserve. It's about providing funding to enable the National Guard to achieve an adequate state of readiness again. And it's about honoring our veterans by giving them the respect and dignity they deserve and the care and benefits they have earned.

A 21st century military will also require us to invest in our men and women's ability to succeed in today's complicated conflicts. We know that on the streets of Baghdad, a little bit of Arabic can actually provide security to our soldiers. Yet, just a year ago, less than 1% of the American military could speak a language such as Arabic, Mandarin, Hindi, Urdu, or Korean. It's time we recognize these as critical skills for our military, and it's time we recruit and train for them".

Of course, how we use our armed forces matters just as much as how they are prepared.

(...)

"A recent report detailed Al Qaeda's progress in recruiting a new generation of leaders to replace the ones we have captured or killed. The new recruits come from a broader range of countries than the old leadership - from Afghanistan to Chechnya, from Britain to Germany, from Algeria to Pakistan. Most of these recruits are in their early thirties.

They operate freely in the disaffected communities and disconnected corners of our interconnected world - the impoverished, weak and ungoverned states that have become the most fertile breeding grounds for transnational threats like terror and pandemic disease and the smuggling of deadly weapons.

Some of these terrorist recruits may have always been destined to take the path they did - accepting a tragically warped view of their religion in which God rewards the killing of innocents. But millions of young men and women have not."

(...)

"We have heard much over the last six years about how America's larger purpose in the world is to promote the spread of freedom - that it is the yearning of all who live in the shadow of tyranny and despair.

I agree. But this yearning is not satisfied by simply deposing a dictator and setting up a ballot box. The true desire of all mankind is not only to live free lives, but lives marked by dignity and opportunity; by security and simple justice."

(...)

"As President, I will double our annual investments in meeting these challenges to $50 billion by 2012and ensure that those new resources are directed towards these strategic goals.

No President should ever hesitate to use force - unilaterally if necessary - to protect ourselves and our vital interests when we are attacked or imminently threatened. But when we use force in situations other than self-defense, we should make every effort to garner the clear support and participation of others - the kind of burden-sharing and support President George H.W. Bush mustered before he launched Operation Desert Storm.

And when we do send our men and women into harm's way, we must also clearly define the mission, prescribe concrete political and military objectives, seek out advice of our military commanders, evaluate the intelligence, plan accordingly, and ensure that our troops have the resources, support, and equipment they need to protect themselves and fulfill their mission.

We must take these steps with the knowledge that while sometimes necessary, force is the costliest weapon in the arsenal of American power in terms of lives and treasure. And it's far from the only measure of our strength.

In order to advance our national security and our common security, we must call on the full arsenal of American power and ingenuity. To constrain rogue nations, we must use effective diplomacy and muscular alliances. To penetrate terrorist networks, we need a nimble intelligence community - with strong leadership that forces agencies to share information, and invests in the tools, technologies and human intelligence that can get the job done. To maintain our influence in the world economy, we need to get our fiscal house in order. And to weaken the hand of hostile dictators, we must free ourselves from our oil addiction. None of these expressions of power can supplant the need for a strong military. Instead, they complement our military, and help ensure that the use of force is not our sole available option.

The third way America must lead again is by marshalling a global effort to meet a threat that rises above all others in urgency - securing, destroying, and stopping the spread of weapons of mass destruction.

As leaders from Henry Kissinger to George Shultz to Bill Perry to Sam Nunn have all warned, the actions we are taking today on this issue are simply not adequate to the danger."

Obama's examples for security ALL pointing to a continuation of The Republican/Neocon leadership we all despise to the year 2012 and if Obama is reelected, 2016. Let me know if theres any part of Obama's 5 Step Foreign Policy Plan that indicates he plans on ending the Wars and bringing our troops home.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/04/remarks_of_senator_barack_obam.html

[JNelson6563]

36. He named only Huckabee

and seemed at a bit of a loss to name any others.

This is how the game is played. I've heard Sen. Clinton refer to Lee Atwater as her "friend". I believe it's called "diplomacy".

Julie

[zulchzulu]

44. This daily attack on Obama brought to you by...

...Fundraising Friends of Rupert Murdoch

[Tellurian]

47. Attacks? All we're posting are pointers. No one from the Hillary Team has even broken a sweat

BO has provided the information we're discussing, all by himself.

[zulchzulu]

51. Do you have a problem with Clinton getting help from Murdoch?

Probably not... moral subjectivity at its finest...

[Tellurian]

63. I have a problem with Obama hiring former Bush strategists to run his campaign..

For instance:

Tom Bernstein went to Yale University with Bush and co-owned the Texas Rangers baseball team with him. In 2004 he donated the maximum $2,000 to the president’s reelection campaign and gave $50,000 to the Republican National Committee. This year he is switching his support to Obama. He is one of many former Bush admirers who find the Democrat newcomer appealing.

Matthew Dowd, Bush’s chief campaign strategist in 2004, announced last month that he was disillusioned with the war in Iraq and the president’s “my way or the highway” style of leadership – the first member of Bush’s inner circle to denounce the leader’s performance in office.

(....)

But last week a surprising new name joined the chorus of praise for the antiwar Obama – that of Robert Kagan, a leading neoconservative and co-founder of the Project for the New American Century in the late 1990s, which called for the overthrow of Saddam Hussein.

Kagan is an informal foreign policy adviser to the Republican senator John McCain, who remains the favoured neoconservative choice for the White House because of his backing for the troops in Iraq.

But in an article in the Washington Post, Kagan wrote approvingly that a keynote speech by

Obama at the Chicago Council on Global Affairs was “pure John Kennedy”, a neocon hero of the cold war.

...Obama's speech was PURE Neo-conic rhetoric! Posted upthread if you care to read it..

In his speech, Obama called for an increase in defence spending and an extra 65,000 soldiers and 27,000 marines to “stay on the offense” against terrorism and ensure America had “the strongest, best-equipped military in the world”. He talked about building democracies, stopping weapons of mass destruction and the right to take unilateral action to protect US “vital interests” if necessary, as well as the importance of building alliances.

“Personally, I liked it,” Kagan wrote.

...So, you're comparing a single Hillary fundraiser given by Murdock to a slew of Republican hires, former Bush strategists and the supporters mentioned above, including Colin Powell, ALL in the employ of Obama's campaign, as somehow problematic to me?

A better comparison is Obama to Bush...

[Sapphire Blue]

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[truebrit71]

69. But you're okay with accepting money from Rupert Murdoch...

:shrug:

[zulchzulu]

76. That question is never answered...

Funny... I wonder why....

:crazy:

[Tellurian]

94. Murdock put on a Fundraiser..

personal contributions have to be within campaign limits. $2,200 the max..

otoh- Deliberately hiring and Paying Bush attack dogs and strategists working for Obama is a whole nother set of loyalty ethics.

[zulchzulu]

98. It's spelled "Murdoch"

Maybe since you don't know how to spell his name, you don't know who he is...

:rofl:

[truebrit71]

100. Actually Mr.Pedantic it's spelled "Evil-Rightwing Bastard"...

...but you knew that too, didn't you...

[truebrit71]

101. So she took money from Rupert Murdoch then? Right?

Also... http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/05/09/politics/main1600694.shtml

It'll give you some insight as to why democrats don't like her...

[huskerlaw]

97. What, now??

Obama hired Bush strategists??

Why in the HELL haven't I heard about this sooner?

That's just...seriously, WTF is he thinking?

:wow:

[NYCGirl]

102. So where's the information that he HIRED them? All it says is that they

"praised" him or that they "find the Democrat newcomer appealing"?

[wyldwolf]

48. that means a lot coming from someone who uses Sean Hannity talking points

[zulchzulu]

50. You are relentless in your insipidness

An expert in making an ass out of yourself, as is evident in this thread... nice job.

:crazy:

[wyldwolf]

55. your Hannity spew will be the albatross around your neck the entire primary season

[zulchzulu]

59. Hannity works for the same guy that helps out your precious candidate

Talking about nonsense, you want to call anyone who dares prick your bubble on your candidate's weaknesses a "HannityHead"... pretty pathetic and juvenile, that hey, that's you.

:crazy:

[wyldwolf]

61. ...and you use Hannity talking points in your criticisms of Clinton. Hmmm....

[zulchzulu]

75. I use my own assessments when talking about the possibilities of a Clinton candidacy

We can play this crap all day long if you want.

If I said that a Clinton nomination would be what the Republicans are hoping for, there is obvious proof to that theory. If I said that Clinton had an opinion on record where she agreed with Obama's position before she decided to criticize him for that position, that is also proveable.

Whether college-dropouts like Sean Hannity, who is employed by Rupert Murdoch (who has held fundraisers for Clinton), says something that just about anyone can figure out, then it's like saying a clock is correct every twelve hours.

I don't give a rat's ass what Sean Hannity says. I don't listen to him, I might watch him make a fool of himself on sites like Crooks and Liars and I think he is a stooge.

Get over it. Your ruse that "using Hannity talking points" doesn't work and it doesn't stick.

[wyldwolf]

77. ...with a little help from your buddy Sean

[zulchzulu]

79. ...with a little help from her buddy, Rupert Murdoch...

..who is Sean's boss...

Tag. You're it.

[wyldwolf]

81. so you're getting help from Hannity AND Murdoch! WOW!

[zulchzulu]

85. Operating a computer on crack is not advisable

Your mom is calling. Hide the porn.

[wyldwolf]

89. then stop doing it.

[Sapphire Blue]

90. fyi, if you're going to throw 'crack user' insults around, look at your own candidate, who...

... self-admittedly, has a history of cocaine use.

[Sapphire Blue]

49. Okay, so did Senator Clinton drug & hypnotize Senator Obama to make him say what he said?

Or is she just a really fantastic ventriloquist, and he the... well, I won't finish that.

[zulchzulu]

52. Did you SEE the interview?

If you did, you saw how he talked about how Huckabee is not a bad guy...no he didn't stand up and roar like an ass that he hates ALL Republicans. If that's what you would have liked him to say, well...too bad for you.

[zanne]

54. Obama doesn't yell, stamp his foot or pout....

He's trying to set an example to the politicians and the electorate. His message is simple; play nice.

[Sapphire Blue]

66. Typical Obama supporters' hypocrisy... it's off limits to to criticize or question Obama, but...

... quite acceptable to outright attack Clinton :puke: . Hmmmm... the RW reacts similarly to criticism/questioning of bush.


The OP asked a question about what Obama said; you posted that the OP was "daily attack on Obama brought to you by... {photo of Senator Clinton}."


So, I ask again, did Senator Clinton drug & hypnotize Senator Obama to make him say what he said? Or is she just a really fantastic ventriloquist, and he the... well, I won't finish that.


btw, I'll take an ass over a 'uniter' any day.

[zulchzulu]

78. You better get a better crack dealer

That stuff you're smoking is making you say the wackiest stuff. Did you see the interview? How long did that part last? Who was the Republican that he said was a decent person? Are all Republicans evil?

Your idiotic leading question about how Clinton drugged and hypotized Obama is clearly the dribble of a crackhead. Seek help.

[Sapphire Blue]

86. My goodness, insults from an Obama supporter. Why am I not surprised?

You attacked Senator Clinton w/your comment, saying that the OP was an attack brought on by Senator Clinton. If she didn't drug & hypnotize Senator Obama to make him say what he said, or if she isn't a fantastic ventriloquest for Senator Obama, please explain how Senator Clinton is responsible for what Senator Obama said.

[wyldwolf]

103. ... now that Obama is out of the cocaine business...

[Sapphire Blue]

105. Interesting that zulchzulu has no comment regarding Obama's cocaine use.

[YOY]

57. YOU FOOL!

There is no Obama...there is only Hillary...



Repeat ad nauseum until it's believed.

[dionysus]

53. wow. that's weak even for you.

[wyldwolf]

56. Another example from you of just having to say SOMETHING - even if it is meaningless

[zulchzulu]

60. I take it that you didn't actually see the interview...

If you had, you'd not have been a little parrot with a worm in your mouth.

[wyldwolf]

62. sure did. I just don't pretend to know what he actually meant.

[Laurab]

74. Actually it has more meaning than the OP IMO n/t

[dionysus]

91. getting hot in that chewbacca suit WW?

loosen up those underoos :)

[wyldwolf]

108. why would I dress like your mother?

[H2O Man]

80. True.

Very true. Disappointing.

[wryter2000]

64. It's called Damning with Faint Praise

Kind of like, "You don't sweat much for a big girl."

[mzmolly]

68. Just because people disagree on poliitcal issues doesn't make them indecent.

Doesn't everyone know a Republican they like or at least tolerate?

[jenmito]

71. Are you actually holding that against him while Hillary's in BED with...

RW HACKS like Murdoch and Newt Gingrich?

[zulchzulu]

83. This should put this inane OP to rest

"Asked if he admired any of the Republican candidates, Obama offered faint praise: "Yeah, I think some of these folks are decent people."

Obama cited only former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee by name. Then he criticized the GOP field for "outbidding each other" while arguing that the detention center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, should be expanded rather than closed.

"That kind of stuff, I think, is not serving the Republican Party well and is not going to serve the country well," he said."

http://customwire.ap.org/dynamic/stories/O/OBAMA_DAILY_SHOW?SITE=CASDT&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2007-08-23-04-25-23

[jenmito]

87. It sure should!

But I bet it won't.

[TeamJordan23]

84. I guess Hillary must have thought Bush was decent to buy into his war. nm

[Laurab]

88. Why won't Hillary go on TDS - and if she did

how do you think she would answer that question? I mean, Jon said they're still trying to get Hillary to come on the show. Everyone else has been on, I think - what is she afraid of? Talking off the cuff? Jon asking a tough question or two?

I really hate to kick this post, but to me it's odd that Hillary won't appear on the show.

I just watched the Obama interview for the second time - he was very good, and his follow-up after saying some repugs are decent more or less negated the fact that he said they were decent. I'd love to see some positive posts from you about Hillary, but I guess there's not a whole lot to be positive about, so all you can do is attack Obama - this one is a real stretch.

[William769]

92. Why should he dis his friends?

[dionysus]

93. exceedingly weak.

calling Barack a repub when you support the most right-leaning candidate we have next to hair-plug biden... wee hoo

[Colobo]

96. William, don't be obtuse.

[William769]

99. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

[Colobo]

106. Don't be obtuse.

[Gloria]

104. Ain't gonna be much change with this same ol' same ol' stuff....

[returnable]

107. Oh, please. And Hillary's a drinking buddy of McCain, Graham, and Collins

...and attends a weekly prayer group with Sam Brownback.

Guess you'd better hop off her bandwagon.