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Thu Aug-23-07 10:17 PM
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If the Obama and Edwards folks got together behind one candidate Hillary would be easily defeated. |
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Of course, politics being what it is that probably won't happen.
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Thu Aug-23-07 10:18 PM
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1. We can. Let's rally behind Obama and bring change to Washington. |
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Thu Aug-23-07 10:21 PM
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5. Cockfighting will send him over the top. Woot Woot We need that now |
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Thu Aug-23-07 10:19 PM
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2. I can see it happening after one drops out. |
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The other throws his support to the remaining one in exchange for a VP slot. only question is whether it will be too late to stop the H-train.
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Thu Aug-23-07 10:20 PM
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4. Obama will derail that train. |
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Thu Aug-23-07 10:22 PM
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6. Most likely that would be Edwards dropping out, but yes it may be too little too late. |
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If it happens at all. I can more easily see Edwards throwing his support to Obama than Obama throwing his support to Edwards.
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Thu Aug-23-07 11:41 PM
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29. I think Edwards is rolling the dice in the early states. |
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He doesn't have the resources that the others have. But he's throwing it all at Iowa and it appears to be paying off. Too early to tell, really, I suppose, but if I had to pick which campaign would fold first I'd say Edwards.
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Thu Aug-23-07 10:19 PM
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3. Obama wants "unity and healing" with the Republicans |
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fuck that. Truly fuck that. When the Republicans stop being warmongering, antideluvian, nutjob homophobic freaks, then maybe we can find some common ground.
Until then, give me John Edwards.
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Thu Aug-23-07 10:22 PM
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8. Assuming your ONLY choice were Clinton or Obama, who would you vote for? nt |
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Thu Aug-23-07 10:23 PM
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10. The polls say HRC wins that match up by a landslide nt |
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Thu Aug-23-07 10:26 PM
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16. You are seeming rather defensive. Well, of course this premise would be most threatening to Edwards |
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Thu Aug-23-07 10:43 PM
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21. In what way? I cited a fact. I have also said I am unsure whether there is an anti-HRC bloc |
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The notion that there is an anti-HRC bloc is accepted here without any questions being asked.
It threatens Edwards in what way? A Clinton nomination is not anything that must be prevented. A Clinton presidency would be superior to an Obama presidency.
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Thu Aug-23-07 10:25 PM
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13. At this stage, Clinton |
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Barack Obama keeps saying shit that raises the hair on my neck.
Calling Mike Huckabee "Decent", when he is an asshole who hates gay people and doesn't even believe in evolution! I mean, for fuck's sake.
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Thu Aug-23-07 11:57 PM
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Thu Aug-23-07 10:22 PM
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9. Amen. We should not sacrifice progressive principles on the altar of "unity" nt |
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Thu Aug-23-07 10:25 PM
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Thu Aug-23-07 10:22 PM
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7. That is premised on the notion of there being an anti-HRC bloc |
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Edited on Thu Aug-23-07 10:24 PM by draft_mario_cuomo
I don't think that is clear. She is after all the most popular Democrat among Democratic voters, including when it comes to favorables. However, I cannot dismiss the possibility of there being a big anti-HRC bloc because she has some of the trappings of an incumbent vice president, think Gore in 2000, given how well-known she is and how associated she is with an administration. She is arguably more tied to the Clinton administration then even Gore was in 2000. She has far less room for improvement, in theory, because of this than the other candidates. Of course, what has happened this year is that she has risen in the polls, Obama has steadily declined as people get to know him better, and Edwards has remained static so far.
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Thu Aug-23-07 10:23 PM
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11. maybe Hillary is the 2nd choice of many Edwards and Obama supporters |
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Thu Aug-23-07 10:27 PM
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17. She's not my second choice |
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not my third choice, not my fourth choice.
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Thu Aug-23-07 11:19 PM
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26. Yet, YOU think Barak Hussein Obama could win? |
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Thu Aug-23-07 10:25 PM
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12. If Edwards and Obama , |
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Dream ticket either way. Who will work heavy security until we elect them?
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Thu Aug-23-07 10:25 PM
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14. I would love that ticket, and Hillarites would love it too. |
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Thu Aug-23-07 10:29 PM
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18. I agree with you, Calteacherguy. band together to defeat a common enemy |
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Thu Aug-23-07 10:31 PM
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19. Hillary is not my 2nd choice. not my choice of any ranking period |
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Thu Aug-23-07 10:31 PM
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20. With Obama, we'll get a victory in 08 and change in Washington. |
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Thu Aug-23-07 10:45 PM
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22. many on both sides prefer Clinton as their 2nd rather than Edwards or Obama |
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Thu Aug-23-07 10:52 PM
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23. I'm not one of those. |
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Thu Aug-23-07 11:17 PM
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25. Exactly. I would support any Dem candidate over Obama, except perhaps Gravel nt |
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Edited on Thu Aug-23-07 11:17 PM by draft_mario_cuomo
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Thu Aug-23-07 11:11 PM
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24. You're assuming all the followers of Obama and Edwards |
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are stupid enough to believe Clinton needs defeating.
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Thu Aug-23-07 11:36 PM
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27. And assuming Obama has not made a concerted effort to align with Edwards... |
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to defeat Hillary. And Edwards rebuked Obama for suggesting it...
Apparently, Obama is feeling weak and thinks aligning with Edwards would help HIS campaign.
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