Why I'm voting for Dennis Kucinich

[ProudDad]

I'm against ALL wars, not just Iraq.

I'm for Universal Health Care and removing the health insurance mafia from the equation and reigning in big pharma -- HR 676 is a great start.

I'm for severely cutting the war budget and using the money to make life better for the People of the U.S. and the Peoples of the Earth.

I'm for ending the bullshit, phony "war on terror". I'm for treating other Peoples and Nations as we would wish to be treated.

I'm for curbing the power of corporations and taxing them.

I'm for Public Financing of elections along with taking back OUR AIRWAVES for substantive candidate information dissemination and real debates.

I'm for complete Civil Rights for LGBT persons and all marginalized minorities including "ex-felons".

I'm for the repeal of the misnamed patriot act and all oppressive, police state bullshit legislation.

I'm for complete separation of church and state, that includes banning the "religious concept" and word "marriage" from ALL public laws and discourse -- substitute "domestic partnerships" and make them available to all.

I'm pro-choice. This is a separation of church and State issue! Absolute separation!

I'm for repealing ALL laws that are based on the myths of the desert religions...or any religion.

I'm for ending mandatory minimums, ending the phony "war on drugs", ending the torture chamber philosophy of the criminal-injustice system and replacing it with a humane system of temporary separation from society and rehabilitation for our brothers and sisters who harm others.

I'm unalterably, utterly, completely, absolutely opposed to the death penalty and the egregious life without parole. Both refuse to recognize the human capacity for redemption.

I'm for free public education for all persons from Pre-K through Graduate School.

I'm strongly for renewable energy and an END to the subsidies to the oil/coal/gas/nuclear mafia in favor of subsidies for decentralized solar.

I'm for repealing NAFTA and withdrawing from GATT and the WTO. If any "free trade" agreements are to be made they should include worker rights and environmental protections AT LEAST AS STRONG as "investment" and protections for multi-national corporations.

I'm for repealing the egregious, anti-worker Taft-Hartley Act and support Worker's rights to join together to counter the evil power of the corporations.

I'm for a government crash program on the level of the WPA for Green Jobs...put the millions of unemployed and underemployed to work at creating a sustainable economy and rebuilding manufacturing in the U.S.

I'm for strong subsidies for local economies -- food distribution, small manufacturing and mom and pop businesses to rebuild Main Street U.S.A. I'm for high taxes on multi-national corps. No hiding places for corporations -- no offshore tax havens. You wanna' do business here, you pay stiff taxes here to support the infrastructure We the People supply them.

That's why I'm voting for Kucinich...He's the only candidate who's congruent with my believes and values...

http://www.dennis4president.com/go/issues /

[RufusTFirefly]

1. Beautiful! K & R n/t

[Ron Green]

2. I can't argue with a word of it. K&R.

[ThomCat]

3. Yes! We need to stop the MSM from deciding who is a viable

candidate and who isn't. If people get to hear his positions he'll be ahead. He'll be a viable candidate, and probably the front runner.

[BigDDem]

27. Right, it's the "MSM's" fault that DK is at 2% (at best)

don't forget to blame the "powers that be."

What a joke.

[dickbearton]

65. MSM is the propaganda ministry...

for the corporate oligarchy. BigDDem, if you don't realize
that you are a big joke.

[Dhalgren]

73. Right-on, dick!

And if no one has said it yet, welcome to DU!

:hi:

[ProudDad]

4. Thanks, folks

Sometimes one gets tired of posting negative stuff...

I don't want there to be any doubt about where I'm coming from...

[dickbearton]

66. DK is the only candidate running...

but I still can't get away from negativity, living in the
environment the Corrupt Republicans have created.

[az chela]

5. Dennis is the only one I trust!!!!!

He is honest,sincere,and cares about the have nots
I am VOTING FOR HIM!!!!

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[ProudDad]

8. Someday...

You are going to surprise us all by actually posting something informational, useful, not filled with insults or that makes some kind of sense.

I'm NOT going to hold my breath waiting though.

I'm one of the lucky 48 Million without any form of Health Care or Health Insurance.

:eyes: :shrug:

[durrrty libby]

9. Please hold your breath.

"I'm one of the lucky 48 Million without any form of Health Care or Health Insurance."

Oh fucking god I am so not surprised.

Try a woman as president and maybe you will get it

[datadiva]

11. Not surprised an american doesn't have health insurance?

Freedom to vote for who you want as your president is what we are all fighting for whether its your candidate or not.

[ProudDad]

12. Kucinich is the only one

who would sign a bill that gets me Health Care...

HR676 - Single-Payer Health Care for All (including me)...

None of the others have either a plan OR a plan that would cover me...

I guess you don't mind though, your obvious republican values would seem to make you happy to contemplate me dying under a freeway overpass somewhere... How progressive of you...


What the FUCK are you doing on DU? I've never seen a civil post from you. I've seen nothing but insults and belittling twaddle in all of your posts.

WTF are you doing here???

:wtf:

[datadiva]

13. I'll second that

I couldn't believe what I was reading.

[ProudDad]

14. It's frustrating

I really wanted to keep this thread positive but gratuitous nastiness kinda burns my hide... :hi:

[MonkeyFunk]

19. yeah he'd sign it

if it were ever to appear on his desk, but it wouldn't. He has not shown a single bit of ability when it comes to actually accomplishing anything.

He'd be President, not dictator. He can't implement his agenda without having lots of allies in the Congress - and he has precious few.

[Nederland]

51. Exactly

That is his problem in a nutshell. DK supporters seem to think that being right on the issues is all that matters. If that were true, thousands of people on DU should be presidential material. Obviously it takes more that, it take an ability to lead, to get people to back you up and help you get something done. DK has a proven record of failure on that account.

[guruoo]

85. And they'll be plenty of time to argue the details once we have our country back n/t

[eridani]

23. From someone who has her head firmly up the ass of the insurance industry?

I don't think so. She's in second place accepting money from those thugs, and she'll cheerfully keep killing 18,000 people a year to keep them happy.

[huskerlaw]

30. As if being female has anything to do

with providing universal health care.

:wtf:

[Sherman A1]

17. I might be wasting my time but,

it is my time to waste and I will be supporting DK in the primary, the Dem Nominee in the General.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

20. wow...

You are real good at inserting the emot-i-cons...

You must be Jesus or something.


Kucinich is the real deal... He may not be electable on this dumb-assed planet - but he is THE MAN.

[Gregorian]

7. Hello! Suddenly I'm hearing a marching band.

I feel like there's a parade in my house. You probably hear it too. It's like it's too good to be true. This guy is speaking for us, like nobody else will.

What is there to not like about the things he stands for? Nothing!

I want Dennis Kucinich's America.

[12string]

10. D.K.

is the only real candidate.

[ProudDad]

15. Love your Avatar

I've played Lead Guitar, Acoustic Guitar and Bass professionally for decades.

:hi:

[AJ9000]

16. 1 problem. He introduced a bill to ban hand-guns right after V tech. If you

know anything about American politics, then you know Americans will not go for that. It will rule him out, and he should have known better.

On most other issues, I agree with him, but question his ability to win the 08 general - gun issue aside.

[ProudDad]

31. Oh, yeah

Did I leave out that I'm for a total ban on handguns?

I'm for a Total ban on handguns.

Carry a handgun, possess a handgun, go to jail...but a decent jail designed to rehabilitate you from your pathology and allow you to become a functioning member of society.

[Nederland]

53. Apparently

...you are also for pursuing positions that ensure defeat.

I'd venture to say that the reason that DK has never gotten anything done in his career in Congress is because he is like you--an idealist. Idealists don't make good politicians, because they will never compromise their position on anything for the sake of getting something more important done. For them, there are no priorities, just one big long list of principles that are all PRIORITY ONE. They are psychologically incapable of compromise.

[ProudDad]

81. Ah, but without Idealists

there would be no good ideas...

On Edit: you're assuming that folks with high ideals can't also understand how to achieve them?

[AJ9000]

89. That policy is a political LOSER for us! I wish certain Dems could learn that lesson!

“I'm for a Total ban on handguns. Carry a handgun, possess a handgun, go to jail...but a decent jail designed to rehabilitate you from your pathology and allow you to become a functioning member of society.”

Do you WANT 4 more years of Republicans in the WH?

Guy, that’s idealistic, fantasy world type thinking, not the pragmatic thinking we need.

Republicans are always trying to scare John Q public into believeing Dems will take their guns away. It’s a classical issue/tactic of theirs. With DK having already proposed a ban, it would be easy to do with him.

I can assure you that most Americans, and probably most Dems even, don’t support a total ban on handguns.

Hell, I asked a couple of friends, both Dems, and they both said they wouldn’t vote for a candidate who was out to ban all hand guns. And these are Democrats!

I have no doubts that if DK was the Dem candidate in the 08 general election, the Republicans would pull that issue out, and effectively destroy him with it. In fact, you can count on it. Right or wrong, people don’t want to hear that.

We have got to be pragmatic, or we face losing in 08 with a candidate that we really like in some ways, but who will not win.

A better shot is John Edwards, a Southern populist-sounding Dem. Research has shown that he would have probably beaten Bush in 04, and he could almost certainly defeat anyone they've got now. That's the imperative.

[DutchLiberal]

60. I love that about him. He says: "Here's what I stand for. If you agree, vote for me!"

Instead of the other candidates who say: "What do you want to hear? I will say it. Vote for me."

[Lydia Leftcoast]

69. Yes, as a former mod in the Gun Dungeon (back in about 2002), I

know that the die-hard gun types would vote for someone who promised to abolish Social Security, take all children away from their parents and send them to military school, set up oil drilling in all the national parks, require everyone to attend fundamentalist churches, and prohibit criticism of the president--if only he'd allow the paranoid little men to keep their handguns.

I know this because I asked the inhabitants of the gun dungeon, and many of them said that it was their ONLY issue.

Pathetic.

[Mythsaje]

18. I like Dennis

but he has NO chance. Drop in on the atheist or skeptic group sometime to see what THEY think of him. His spiritual beliefs would be paraded before everyone and that would absolutely sink him. It sucks, but there it is.

[QueenOfCalifornia]

21. hmmm...

This is not what will sink him...

It is the MSM who will not give him the time of day...

(Pssst, I'm an Atheist - But I am not lame enough to think that I can ever get my conceptual thinking across to ANYONE.)

[MonkeyFunk]

24. If he can't get some media attention

he has no business running for president.

[ProudDad]

32. Gee, these are the only requirements

Article Two of the Constitution sets the qualifications required to become president. Presidents must be natural-born citizens of the United States, at least thirty-five years old, and must have been resident in the United States for at least fourteen years.

I guess he DOES have the right to run for President...

[MonkeyFunk]

35. I didn't say he doesn't have the right

He just should have no expectation of winning if he can't manage to get any media attention.

Media attention isn't just given freely - one has to do something newsworthy.

[ProudDad]

38. How Catch-22 of you

He has the best ideas, the right policies, is probably the smartest of the group, has the best heart...

But I guess he has to be black, marry a President or make millions as a trial lawyer to qualify as "newsworthy"??? :sarcasm:


You ain't got a fucking clue how it works, do you?

ObamClintWards are the anointed. Your corporate capitalist masters, WHO FUCKING OWN THE NEWS MONOPOLY, have chosen and you've taken that bait and are swallowing the hook.

I guess you like that state of affairs. Perpetual war for perpetual profits for the capitalist masters. Perpetual fear for perpetual domination by the forces of evil.

Some of us have a vision of a better society and are willing to work for it...

[MonkeyFunk]

40. I'm afraid

you're the one who has "no fucking clue" how it works.

Why do you have to attack personally? I'm making substantive points, the main one being that the media does not OWE equal attention to every candidate.

Does Tom Tancredo deserve attention equal to Mitt Romney or Rudy Giuliani? No, he doesn't. And what about all the people who are running for President who aren't included in ANY debate? Ole Savior, Laura Davis-Aaron, Michael K. Forrester, Alfonzo Jones (just a few examples)?

It's funny I never hear people complain that they're excluded. Hell, Chris Dodd doesn't get any media and nobody complains. It's only Kucinich that people complain about, but the fact is, he's run for President before and did very poorly, and his numbers this time aren't any better. Perpetual 3 percenters simply don't warrant a lot of media attention. If he got his numbers up, or raised some significant money, that would change.

[Nederland]

52. That's not enough

He has the best ideas, the right policies, is probably the smartest of the group, has the best heart...

Sorry, but that's not enough. He needs to accomplish something and prove he can lead.

[terryg11]

58. mayor of Cleveland at 31

There's a reason he gets reelected in Ohio. Stood up to the huge, money heavy utilities and now, many years later he and the city of Cleveland are the better for it.

[Ken Burch]

63. Hillary and Obama haven't done a damn thing newsworthy all year

beyond the act of being presidential candidates.

[Zodiak]

91. For that matter, what have the Dems accomplished in this decade?

None of the Dems up there have gotten anything done.....except if you count the times they signed on to Republicn bills when they got things done (and screwed this country to hell).

And more than a few of those kinds of Dems are up there asking to be President.

...and Kucinich is not one of them.

Right now it is Kucinich for me with Edwards as a compromise candidate. If Edwards has a shot at beating the DLC/New Democrat borg, I'm going Edwards. Failing that, I'm voting Kucinich and getting sleep at night.

I wish Gore would get in, though.

[Mythsaje]

25. I dropped into the Skeptics forum the other day

and was staggered by the contempt they have for anyone who believes in anything that isn't what they consider "rational." I'm more or less agnostic (it's more complicated than that, but let's just say I don't believe in any conventional notion of "God/dess.") I am, however, married to a witch and have a lot of pagan friends.

I don't believe what they believe, but that doesn't make me better than them. Just different.

Anyone who views people like my wife and my friends with that much disdain can go fuck themselves. Sorry to say, but this site has not made me feel particularly charitable towards a LOT of atheists and self-proclaimed "realists." There's enough intolerance to go around from the other side of the debate--I don't think they need to add to it.

[MonkeyFunk]

41. Yeah

rationality is RUINING this country!

[Mythsaje]

43. No, just fuckheads of all beliefs and non-beliefs. n/t

[dmosh42]

22. We would all vote for Kucinich if he gets the nomination.......

But we're only a part of the equation. The problem is the big money comes from the corporations and special interest groups. They know there is no way a 'grass-roots' candidate will make it to the WH. Unfortunately, our voting public doesn't analyze too deeply, so the two-minute blurbs on tv makes the impression needed. And that's where the big money comes in.

[DangerDave921]

26. Fantasy

Nice set of thoughts if we lived in a 1960's commune where everyone loved each other. But we do have serious problems in this country regarding terrorism and crime. And you seem to want to hide your head in the sand and pretend they don't exist. Yeah, let's try to rehab the people who rape and murder little kids. Maybe a nice big group hug would do the trick.

There are some ugly realities in this world that must be confronted if one is truly an adult.

[ProudDad]

36. Well your solutions have sure worked well

:sarcasm:

You've bought into the right-wing bullshit.

This country has tried the lock 'em up and treat 'em like animals approach.

This country gets the worst result with the most folks locked up.

A good working definition of insanity is doing the same shit over and over again and expecting a different result.


"Yeah, let's try to rehab the people who rape and murder little kids"

Those VERY RARE folks who "rape and murder little kids" are created not born. They're created by poverty and neglect. They're created by the criminal-injustice system that abuses them and allows them to be abused by the most predatory of their fellow inmates in those torture chambers called jails and prisons. YOUR ATTITUDE and the institutionalization of that attitude CREATES THEM!!!

Thanks a lot... :sarcasm:


"But we do have serious problems in this country regarding terrorism and crime"

You have a better chance of being hit by lightning than being the "victim of a terrorist action"...

You have a better chance of being in a car accident than being the "victim of a crime"...

Why don't you spend more energy fixing things that can be fixed than being afraid of myths?

[DangerDave921]

42. Myths?

I'm sorry -- crime is a myth? Terrosism is a myth?

And your solution to criminals is what? Let them go? Put them up in a nice hotel? Seriously, what do you do with a guy who walks into a store, shoots the clerk, and steals the money? I'm not talking about stastical probability of it happening. I'm asking you what do you suggest as the course of action for such a criminal once he's caught.

[ProudDad]

48. I'm advocating a system of Justice

that doesn't produce people who walk into a store, shoot a clerk and steal the money.

You think people are BORN ready to do such things?

These people are created by the sick, broken system of institutionalized revenge you are advocating for.

And, yes, in a manner of speaking I WOULD put them up in facilities that more resemble a good hotel than a torture chamber...

I would rehabilitate people from an early age. I would treat them humanely, not with torture, and work to heal them. That's the kind of thing the Civilized world is doing and their outcomes are significantly better than here in cowboy country.

For the very rare sociopath, the person born without a conscience, I would treat them humanely (they know not what they do) and segregate them from society where they can do no harm.

=============

Terrorism is a tactic -- not a group of persons. So, yes, in the context you meant to scare us with the term, it is a myth...

[DangerDave921]

55. Segregate

So at least you would agree to keep them away from decent society. That's a start. And I applaud your desire to prevent crime.

I agree terrorism is a tactic. But I also believe there are some really dangerous people out there who are eager to cause death and destruction of innocent civilians.

Don't you know segregation is bad? :)

[Dhalgren]

76. You are right:

"But I also believe there are some really dangerous people out there who are eager to cause death and destruction of innocent civilians." They are called the US government and the Bush-Republicans and the Bush-Democrats. No one can keep the world from being dangerous, but we can stop ourselves from acting like deranged morons. We can break the cycle of our stupid, neanderthal reactions to problems we can solve humanely and with intelligence - I know, it isn't the "American way", but there is a better way...

[DutchLiberal]

61. You're deliberately making a caricature of the topic starter's opinions.

"A group hug". Please, I've heard these distortions from Rush Limbaugh-fans a thousand times.

But he's right: you're approach isn't working. But I can tell you, where I live, in The Netherlands, we have that system the topic starter is talking about: no capital punishment, maximum limits on imprisonment, much better environments for detainees and rehabilitation for convicted criminals. Are some punishment too low? Well, yes they are. Do I prefer more severe punishments in certain cases? Yes, I do. But the fact of the matter is: the crime rate has been going down consistently for 20 years, including the number of murders committed. It seems our system, mainly focused on prevention instead of repression, is working after all.

[LWolf]

28. Those are my reasons for voting for DK, as well.

I'm supporting the candidate who represents me.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

[mike_c]

29. I agree-- and DK is the ONLY dem with the courage to stand up for America....

The others are all spineless, triangulating, neocon appeasers at heart, no matter how much hot air they spew. Kucinich is the real thing. The genuine article. A liberal democrat who leads on EVERY ISSUE that is important to me.

[LSK]

33. if you beleive in him, volunteer for his campaign

Make it happen.

[5fingersurfer]

45. LSK has it right

If you think he is the best candidate, get out and volunteer for his campaign. Do more than just give him the "if only MSM would treat him fairly" lip service or send in a couple of couple of bucks.

I also like the post a bit before about how he needs to address security and terrorism, where he needs to confront issues like an adult. He makes it sound like someone is currently doing a good job on that front or has even presented a rational plan of action (enlighten me - who is that individual). I would trust Kucinich to come up with a reasonably effective approach that might even be effective in addressing the actual issue instead of just paying lip service and making sure your corporate donors make a little bit more money.

While there are pressing issues to be faced by the next president - I think the highest priority should be to pass a public funding bill to cover all levels of elected officials. That is the only way to even start to fix our current corrupt system.

The best statement from K so far (which he can enact as president without any approval from the other branches) is to immediately withdraw our country from the trade agreements that only protect the large multi-national corporations - NAFTA, WTO, etc. To me it looks as the current top three think these trade deals are a good thing and will keep them going if elected.

Anyways just a bit o my thoughts from the keyboard.

[LSK]

46. welcome to DU!

I speak from experience!

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/LSK/83

:hi:

[ProudDad]

49. Well put

and welcome to DU :hi:

[Jax]

34. Outstanding post ProudDad!!!

We love Dennis in my house for all those reasons. My PCO has been a big Dennis supporter since the last election. We will caucus with her for Dennis and hopefully she will be one of many delegates for him.

Copying and printing your post for my precinct meeting next Thursday. It will be a hit.

Alyce

[ProudDad]

39. Wow, thanks! Hope it helps. (n/t)

[stuntcat]

37. Dennis rocks

:headbang:

[DemBones DemBones]

44. Dennis is our only hope for real change. nt

[proud patriot]

47. Great post dad

k and r ..I'm thinking of sending this to Mike Malloy .
With your permission of course .

:loveya:

[ProudDad]

50. Permission Granted

Say Hi from 'you know who' and me! :loveya:

I've still got that great picture of Mike and "you know who" from Phoenix in my camera.

[proud patriot]

56. You have to send me that picture

The email has been sent .

I'll let you know if he reads it on the air .

:loveya:

[Nothing Without Hope]

54. He is so obviously the only candidate who actually tells the truth and is for the PEOPLE.

The DLC machine is trying to force Hillary Clinton on us. Another corporatist. Another disaster.

[Mnemosyne]

57. Needs another

:kick: and R!

[Desertrose]

59. Have to agree with Dennis , too...he's got my vote.

:kick: and R

[colorado_ufo]

62. I will buy it all except

life without parole. There are some individuals who are such a danger to society, and who have proven this repeatedly, that they should never be returned to the general populace. Sometimes the rights and needs of the innocent trump the individual desires of the guilty.

I would not want Ted Bundy as my neighbor.

[ProudDad]

80. You're correct

there are those rare individuals, the sociopaths like Bundy, who shouldn't be out in public.

However, we don't have to torture them as they would their victims. We can create humane environments within which they can decently live out their lives. Why torture people for a brain defect beyond their own control?

You do remember that Ted Bundy at one time was being considered as a viable republican candidate for Congress?

[colorado_ufo]

92. Didn't know that!

Sad but laughable.

[stimbox]

64. K&R

Error: You've already recommended that thread.

[nam78_two]

67. K&R -great post ProudDad

You also have a great daughter :yourock:.

[ProudDad]

82. Shucks, Thank you

As for the daughter, I agree and am humbled (and occasionally bewildered knowing me) at how great she turned out. :hi:

[bjobotts]

68. Kucinich is presently the only one calling out Bush/Cheney on Iran threats.

Kucinich/Edwards '08

John Nichols has a good article over at "The Nation".com about Dennis being the only candidate (has quotes) calling down Bush/Cheney's war rhetoric on Iran as being irresponsible and treasonous. Check it out. Put Kucinich everywhere because the "top tier" are desperately trying to exclude him and keep attention off of him because he so far outshines them it isn't even close.

Kucinich/Edwards '08...now imagine it on a bumper sticker.

[Lydia Leftcoast]

70. Dennis Kucinich is the only candidate whose speech ever

made me cry. Edwards was all right, and Kerry left me cold both times I heard him. But Dennis touched my heart.

The first time I heard him in August 2003, I realized that he was the first candidate who had ever said aloud what I had been thinking and my friends had been talking about for 25 years.

[creeksneakers2]

71. Its nice to read a positive thread like this. n/t

[Dhalgren]

72. Fucking-A! ProudDad, I am with you!

You make me proud, ProudDad! Well said and 100%!

Dennis Kucinich for President! If you care about this nation, this planet, this Humanity, he is the only choice!

[bonito]

74. K&R great post!

:) :thumbsup:

[southerncrone]

75. Agree on all of your points.

:kick: & R!

I would add: Repeal the NCLB law & revamp what "education" really means in the 21st century. We are still teaching like it was 1920. We need to determine what skills & knowledge are really important today & make sure kids get those basics.... instead of force feeding tons of useless "test information" down their throats. Parents also MUST GET INVOLVED! Education begins & ends at home.

If we want Kucinich & his ideas to become a reality, we cannot begin by saying he doesn't have a chance & NOT vote for him! That thinking is what has gotten us candidates that few really wanted.
If you like what he stands for, VOTE FOR HIM!

The neocons & corporate dictators fear Kucinich & Edwards most!
They are ready for an Edwards nomination.....but NOT for a Kucinich nomination. That would totally catch them off guard. They do not want to fight honesty & sincerity, because those are concepts of which they have NO understanding.

But b/4 we can even expect to have a fighting chance in the Gen Election, we must get the voting machine rigging problem fixed! Otherwise, it doesn't matter who we nominate, they are defeated b/4 the election by the rigged machines.

[ProudDad]

83. The more people who vote for ideals

like those being voiced by Dennis Kucinich, the sooner we'll see the other candidates picking them up and pretending they were on board all the while...

That's how it's done.

That's why some of us must rush out ahead and pave the way for the rest...

As for the microcosm, it would be a CRIME not to vote ones conscience in the '08 primary... If there's ANY message in this thread (other than laying out my core values), it's that. Vote your heart and mind in the '08 primaries.

[slipslidingaway]

77. Kick! And the only candidate speaking out on the draft Oil Law,

maybe the other candidates will find their voice.

[Norrin Radd]

78. k+r

[patrioticintellect]

79. Amen

You make some strong points. I wonder what the Clintonites or Obamanians have to say.

Oh, wait...I don't know if they could debate all that Kucinich is for. That's why their success so far has occurred primarily because the MSM ignores Kucinich. If the MSM started to give him proper attention and if they began to ask "Kucinich or Obama?" or "Kucinich or Clinton?", than they would be in for some tough times.

WARNING: Those tough times are coming Obama and Clinton. If you stop Kucinich from winning, his supporters are just going to roll over and support you. But as we support you, we are going to demand that you support what he was for or else we will just be writing in Kucinich in November. That may be helping the Republican party but hey, if the Democratic party won't select a real progressive candidate to run for President, than I'm not going to support them as I am expected to do. I am through with picking the lesser of two evils. That "anybody but Bush" mentality ain't gonna fly no more.

[gkaba]

84. Deliver Us from Evil

  Great article!  There is NO MORE TIME available for
indecisive wishy-washy thinking.  We can have a war with Iran,
martial law here, RFID verichips embedded in us and the
cancellation of the 2008 elections OR we can have Kucinich.
  We are very fortunate to have a second chance to nominate
and elect America's once-in-a-lifetime candidate.
  And everyone needs to be contacting House members to
cosponsor Kucinich's House Resolution 333 to impeach Dick
Cheney.
  The 5 toll-free numbers to reach the DC operator are listed
below.  When the operator answers, tell them which Rep you
want to speak to.

1-800-828-0498
1-800-614-2803
1-866-340-9281
1-866-338-1015
1-877-851-6437

  These numbers can be used to reach Conyers and Pelosi too.

[lostnotforgotten]

86. Voted For Him Before And Will Vote For Him Again

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[dickbearton]

87. K&R.

[tomp]

88. you missed trying to impeach cheney.

another indication he knows what he's about.

[poptartwrapper]

90. You have it absolutely right!

The correct answer for this country is Dennis Kucinich. If you are thinking of supporting another candidate....you're not thinking, you're afraid.