10 of 14 senators Obama's PAC supported were DLC members (half of the DLC in the senate)?

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Say it ain't so! I came across this when searching about Holy Joe being chosen by Obama to be his mentor in response to a question about it by a DUer.

==Hence Vietor's sensitivity to the allusion in my column to Obama's "mentor" being Senator Joe Lieberman. As a freshman senator, Vietor insisted, Obama had been assigned Lieberman as mentor. Read the Hartford Courant and you'll find Lieberman boasting that Obama picked him.

Either way, it's obvious that Obama could have brokered a different mentor if he'd so desired, the same way he could have declined to go and tout for Lieberman at that Democratic Party dinner in Connecticut at the end of March. But he clearly didn't, because he wanted to send out a reassuring signal, in the same way he's doing with his PAC, the Hopefund, which is raising money for fourteen of his senate colleagues. According to BlackCommentator, ten of them are DLC--half the DLC presence in the Senate.

There has been a more substantive signal, keenly savored by the corporate world, where Obama voted for one of its most cherished pieces of legislation, sought for years, namely "tort reform." ==

http://www.thenation.com/doc/20060508/cockburn

[wndycty]

1. Oh my! Obama supported DEMOFUCKINGCRATS???

He must be stopped!!!
:sarcasm:

[draft_mario_cuomo]

2. How much did Hopefund give Ned Lamont (D-Ct)?

It gave $4,200 to Holy Joe plus Obama the rock star headlined a fund-raiser for Holy Joe, in addition to campaigning for him against Lamont on at least one other occasion in the primary (while Obama officially claimed to support Lamont in the GE he never made the trip to CT to campaign for him, although he traveled across the country campaigning for Democrats. He also allegedly is the one who led the standing ovation for Holy Joe when he returned to the Senate). :eyes:

[napi21]

3. So, why are all the anti DLCers screaming about this?

Can't imagine it might be some hypocracy now do ya?

[illinoisprogressive]

4. If they were running for elections all of the dems gave who could

[draft_mario_cuomo]

5. I thought Obama was the antithesis of the DLC?

There were countless non-DLC candidates for the House he could have spent the money he gave to the likes of Holy Joe, DLC leaders Tom Carper, Harold Ford, and Hillary Clinton. The question apparently is not whether he backed the DLC but if there was any key DLCer he did not support.

[illinoisprogressive]

6. No one is named or listed. nothing. Just Durbin. so, where is the beef?

[draft_mario_cuomo]

7. I know he donated to Lieberman, Harold Ford, Tom Carper, and Hillary Clinton

Three are formal DLC leaders and the other is perhaps more associated with the DLC than anyone not named Clinton.

If the article in the OP is false, please let us know. Who did he support in 2006? Let's see the list and then we can determine how many were DLC.

Let's not forget that at the time he was considered a likely candidate for VP in 2008. Having the DLC in your camp surely would help your cause, especially since the DLC's top candidate finished 3rd, 1st, 1st, 1st, 1st in the 1988, 1992, 1996, 2000, and 2004 primaries.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

8. Anyone know? nt

[dionysus]

9. wow you hates you some Obama, "Edwards supporter"

[NYCGirl]

10. Your link's broken. It says no such thing. NT

[draft_mario_cuomo]

12. The link works. Anyway, is it true? Who did he support in 06' besides Holy Joe, Ford, Carper, and HC

[NYCGirl]

13. Here's what's at the link:

I was harsh about Senator Barack Obama of Illinois here a couple of weeks ago, and the very next morning his press aide, Tommy Vietor, was on the phone howling about inaccuracies. It was an illuminating conversation.

Obama's man took grave exception to my use of the phrase "distancing himself" to describe what his boss had done when Illinois's senior senator, Dick Durbin, got into trouble for likening conditions at Guantánamo to those in a Nazi or Stalin-era camp. This was one of Durbin's finer moments, and he duly paid the penalty by having to eat crow on the Senate floor.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

14. Yeah, and keep reading and you'll find it nt

[NYCGirl]

16. There's a subscriber button — how about quoting some more for us

non-subsribers?

[draft_mario_cuomo]

19. The relevant quote is in the OP. See post 18 nt

[rinsd]

11. Here's the Hope Fund's campaign donation recipient list for 2006

House Candidate Total Contribs
Altmire, Jason (D-PA) $2,500
Arcuri, Michael (D-NY) $5,000
Barrow, John (D-GA) $2,500
Bean, Melissa (D-IL) $10,000
Boswell, Leonard L (D-IA) $10,000
Boyda, Nancy E (D-KS) $2,500
Braley, Bruce (D-IA) $5,000
Burner, Darcy (D-WA) $2,500
Busby, Francine P (D-CA) $10,000
Carney, Chris (D-PA) $5,000
Castor, Kathy (D-FL) $1,000
Courtney, Joe (D-CT) $5,000
Cranley, John (D-OH) $5,000
Davis, Jack (D-NY) $5,000
Derby, Jill T (D-NV) $5,000
Donnelly, Joe (D-IN) $5,000
Duckworth, Tammy (D-IL) $10,000
Edwards, Chet (D-TX) $5,000
Ellison, Keith Maurice (D-MN) $2,500
Ellsworth, Brad (D-IN) $7,500
Evans, Lane (D-IL) $10,000
Farrell, Diane Goss (D-CT) $6,500
Filson, Steve N (D-CA) $2,500
Gillibrand, Kirsten E (D-NY) $5,000
Goldmark, Peter James (D-WA) $1,000
Hafen, Tessa (D-NV) $5,000
Hall, John (D-NY) $1,000
Hare, Philip G (D-IL) $5,000
Hill, Baron (D-IN) $10,000
Hodes, Paul W (D-NH) $5,000
Jackson, Jesse Jr (D-IL) $2,100
Jennings, Christine (D-FL) $2,500
Kagen, Steven Leslie (D-WI) $2,500
Kellam, Phil (D-VA) $3,500
Kilroy, Mary Jo (D-OH) $5,000
Klein, Ron (D-FL) $7,000
Lampson, Nick (D-TX) $2,500
Lucas, Ken (D-KY) $5,000
Madrid, Patricia A (D-NM) $10,000
Maffei, Dan (D-NY) $2,500
Mahoney, Tim (D-FL) $5,000
Marshall, Jim (D-GA) $7,000
Matheson, Jim (D-UT) $2,500
McNerney, Jerry (D-CA) $5,000
Melancon, Charles J (D-LA) $5,000
Miller, Les (D-FL) $2,100
Mitchell, Harry E (D-AZ) $5,000
Murphy, Chris (D-CT) $5,000
Murphy, Lois (D-PA) $6,500
Murphy, Patrick J (D-PA) $12,326
Paccione, Angie (D-CO) $1,000
Perlmutter, Edwin G (D-CO) $5,000
Salazar, John (D-CO) $5,000
Schakowsky, Jan (D-IL) $1,000
Seals, Daniel Joseph (D-IL) $5,000
Sestak, Joe (D-PA) $5,000
Shea-Porter, Carol (D-NH) $2,500
Shuler, Heath (D-NC) $10,000
Space, Zachary T (D-OH) $5,000
Spratt, John M Jr (D-SC) $5,000
Sulzer, Joe (D-OH) $5,000
Sutton, Betty Sue (D-OH) $5,000
Tinklenberg, Elwyn G (D-MN) $2,000
Walz, Timothy J (D-MN) $3,500
Weaver, John Michael (D-KY) $1,000
Welch, Peter (D-VT) $7,500
Wetterling, Patty (D-MN) $3,500
Wilson, Charlie (D-OH) $7,000
Yarmuth, John A (D-KY) $3,500
Total to Democratic House Candidates: $337,526
Total to Republican House Candidates: $0



Senate Candidate Total Contribs
Akaka, Daniel K (D-HI) $10,000
Baucus, Max (D-MT) $5,000
Bingaman, Jeff (D-NM) $4,200
Brown, Sherrod (D-OH) $10,000
Byrd, Robert C (D-WV) $10,000
Cardin, Ben (D-MD) $5,000
Carper, Tom (D-DE) $4,200
Carter, John William (D-NV) $7,000
Casey, Bob (D-PA) $10,000
Clinton, Hillary (D-NY) $4,200
Conrad, Kent (D-ND) $10,000
Durbin, Dick (D-IL) $5,000
Feinstein, Dianne (D-CA) $4,200
Ford, Harold E Jr (D-TN) $9,243
Harkin, Tom (D-IA) $5,000
Hynes, Daniel W (D-IL) $2,000
Jeffords, James M (I-VT) $4,200
Johnson, Tim (D-SD) $5,000
Kennedy, Edward M (D-MA) $4,200
Klobuchar, Amy (D-MN) $10,000
Lamont, Ned (D-CT) $5,000
Landrieu, Mary L (D-LA) $5,000
Lautenberg, Frank R (D-NJ) $5,000
Levin, Carl (D-MI) $5,000
Lieberman, Joe (I-CT) $4,200
McCaskill, Claire (D-MO) $10,000
Menendez, Robert (D-NJ) $10,000
Nelson, Ben (D-NE) $10,000
Nelson, Bill (D-FL) $10,000
Pederson, Jim (D-AZ) $10,000
Pryor, Mark (D-AR) $5,000
Reed, Jack (D-RI) $5,000
Rockefeller, Jay (D-WV) $5,000
Sanders, Bernie (I-VT) $10,000
Stabenow, Debbie (D-MI) $10,000
Tester, Jon (D-MT) $5,000
Webb, James (D-VA) $5,000
Whitehouse, Sheldon (D-RI) $10,000
Total to Democratic Senate Candidates: $239,243
Total to Republican Senate Candidates

http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/pacgot.asp?strID=C00409052&Cycle=2006

[draft_mario_cuomo]

15. How many of them are DLC? nt

[rinsd]

17. Here is a list of New Democrats (the DLC's legislative wing) from wiki

House - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Democrat#Members_of_the_House_New_Democratic_Coalition

Senate - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Democrat#Members_of_the_Senate_New_Democratic_Coalition

Though a word of caution, I don't know how up to date this wiki list is.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

18. That will do for those who won at least

We also know Harold Ford is DLC (a DLC leader like Tom Carper and Hillary Clinton). Candidates supported by Obama are in bold.

* Sen. Max Baucus of Montana
* Sen. Evan Bayh of Indiana
* Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware
* Sen. Thomas R. Carper of Delaware
* Sen. Kent Conrad of North Dakota
* Sen. Byron Dorgan of North Dakota
* Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California
* Sen. Tim Johnson of South Dakota
* Sen. Herb Kohl of Wisconsin
* Sen. Mary Landrieu of Louisiana
* Sen. Joe Lieberman of Connecticut
* Sen. Blanche Lincoln of Arkansas
* Sen. Bill Nelson of Florida
* Sen. Ben Nelson of Nebraska
* Sen. Mark Pryor of Arkansas
* Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton of New York
* Sen. Ken Salazar of Colorado
* Sen. Debbie Stabenow of Michigan

Add to that losing candidate Harold Ford, now the DLC's chairman. How many of the other losers were DLC?