Hillary plays the 'terror' card, like the GOP

[BluegrassDem]

She's sounding more and more Republican everyday.


"Some puzzled buzz among Democrats about remarks Sen. Clinton made at what the AP’s Holly Ramer calls “a backyard gathering of supporters” in Concord, N.H., on Thursday. According to the AP’s story, Clinton said she also would be better than rivals at handling the unexpected, including a terrorist attack. "It's a horrible prospect to ask yourself, 'What if? What if?' But if certain things happen between now and the election, particularly with respect to terrorism, that will automatically give the Republicans an advantage again, no matter how badly they have mishandled it, no matter how much more dangerous they have made the world. So I think I'm the best of the Democrats to deal with that as well."


http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/0807/Her_inner_Rove.html

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[Colobo]

2. What if, Hill? Yellow? Red? What's today's terror alert?

[zulchzulu]

14. Maybe there will be a more updated color scheme

The colors presently are:

Severe (red): severe risk
High (orange): high risk
Elevated (yellow): significant risk
Guarded (blue): general risk
Low (green): low risk

Red would be "Cherry Tomato"
Orange would be "Gold Crest"
Yellow would be "Daisy"
Blue would be "Jacaranda"
Green would be "Lime"

How's that for "Change"...
:crazy:

[BeyondGeography]

3. Whatever happened to the politics of hope?

Oh, right, that's the other guy.

[Colobo]

4. Someone should do an ad

of Bush and Hillary saying basically the same things... people need to see it...

[BeyondGeography]

6. Yet another case of Hillary talking out of both sides of her mouth

Yesterday, she's our gal on terror, but, she has also said (from the same article), that terrorism “shouldn't be a Democratic fight or a Republican fight.” But it's OK to make it an intraparty fight?

[draft_mario_cuomo]

31. Kind of like Obama's "new kind of politics" fighting Dems but making overtures to the GOP nt

[emilyg]

22. The naive one.

[HereSince1628]

5. Mostly it just sounds like "I can do anything" attitude of job-seekers everywhere

doesn't it? I don't think there's any news one way or the other in that.

[paulk]

9. but, but, but....

it's HILLARY! Don't you see! It's different! It's HILLARY! HILLARY!!!!!!!1111111111

this is HUGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111111!!!!!!!!!!1

[killbotfactory]

28. Sounds like she is saying the democrats are weak on terrorism, to me

or at least implying that.

It's also an indication that she will surrender the issue to the republicans, needlessly.

[HereSince1628]

29. Seems she's implying the other dem candidates are weaker if and when

it comes to running against Republicans in a hypothetical post Pearl Harbor 3. I'm not sure that says anything about Dems on terrorism per se.

But it does seem she's messing with one of those "hypotheticals" she said authentic presidential candidates shouldn't get sucked into playing with.

[karynnj]

30. I have no problem with her

if she made a case that she could handle terrorism better than the other Democrats - which she didn't do - she just declared it to be so. But I do have a problem with her words that seem to say (though actually don't) that this is a Republican advantage. That is not a good thing to re-inforce.

[HereSince1628]

33. I agree. But at this point I think the candidates are losing touch with reality

Their campaign rhetoric seems to indicate that as president they think can make things happen by saying so.

Shit. We're trying to dump the dictatorship not merely replace the Junta's leadership

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[Bitwit1234]

8. Guess the BUSH DOG DEMOCRATS on this journal do also.

[bellasgrams]

10. just another bash Hillary post.

I think I'll start bashing Kucinich, Edwards & Obama everyday just for the heck of it. Hillary is not my first choice, but she is capable and would do well. Actually, I favor Richardson. I just get sick of the Hillary bashing. She doesn't deserve it. She was an excellent first lady. New Yorkers believe she's an excellent Senator, she has done nothing to deserve the savage beating she gets here. The Reps. have tore her up for years and some of the people here as drunk their kool aid.

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16. Its amazing. And then you see threads talking about Obama-haters.

:shrug:

[zulchzulu]

17. Here are her words...

As the article points out:
When asked about fighting terrorism:

"It's a horrible prospect to ask yourself, 'What if? What if?' But if certain things happen between now and the election, particularly with respect to terrorism, that will automatically give the Republicans an advantage again, no matter how badly they have mishandled it, no matter how much more dangerous they have made the world. So I think I'm the best of the Democrats to deal with that as well."

Then the article points out this:

"And last year, speaking to a United Auto Workers legislative policy conference in Washington, she lambasted Republicans by saying: “Contrary to Franklin Roosevelt who had nothing to fear but fear itself, this crowd is, ‘All we got is fear and we’re going to keep playing the fear card.’ “

Is pointing out a candidate's own words (which are foolish) bashing? Is it true that Senator Clinton is the "best of the Democrats" to deal with terrorism? I think not.

[BeyondGeography]

19. We need to start keeping score

a) We are safer (but not really)
b) The surge is working (but that's not really what I meant)
c) Don't talk to dictators (but I once said it was OK)
d) Don't make blanket statements regarding the use of nuclear weapons (but I did)
e) Terrorism is not a Republican issue or Democratic issue (but I'm going to try and use it to my advantage in the campaign anyway)

Each week she makes at least one statement that is at odds with a prior statement. That's not bashing; it's a fact. And if her supporters are at all interested why her ratings for trustworthiness are so low (she scores half as high as Obama on that trait in Iowa http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/polls/postpoll_080307.html?hpid=topnews), they'll start paying attention.

But they won't.

[slick8790]

18. This is NOT another bash hillary post.

This is an actual issue that shows yet again how she can manage to say all things to all people and not commit to anything. Are we supposed to ignore it? Maybe, just maybe all this supposed "bashing" is coming because she in fact has a lot wrong with her. But good luck on bashing other candidates for fun....not like this election matters or anything :eyes:

[Connie_Corleone]

26. So, criticizing her on the issues (i.e. terrorism) is bashing?

There is nothing wrong with criticizing candidate's on what they say regarding the issues.

The OP is not a bash.

[mod mom]

27. No one put the words in her mouth so why call it a "bash" post. It's discussion.

[NoFederales]

11. "....So I think I'm the best of the Democrats to deal with that as well."

She's right, she hits her ideological reactivity with hammer blows. We need change in American Politics, not more of the dynastic same-ol'-same-ol'.

NoFederales

[TwilightGardener]

12. Here's how I read it:

"I am planning on capitalizing politically on any terror that is visited upon us."

[HeraldSquare212]

13. Sounds like she's been briefed...

on what will happen between now and the election.

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15. So she'd know how to handle a terrorist attack. How dare she?

These bash Hillary threads are really scraping bottom.

[LeFleur1]

20. Exactly

ARe these 'bash Hillary for everything, true or not" so very sure that there will not be another terrorist attack?

If, by terrible circumstance, there were another attack, is it such a stretch to wonder what our president would do? Is it such a dopey question to wonder what each one of the candidates WOULD do if such a terrible circumstance came to be?

I find this critique of her speech ridiculous.

[Maribelle]

21. Politico - - Exhibit A for our broken political press says Glen Greenwald

The demonstrably right wingers, that use hate monger Drudge as an adviser, ask a question and you title it as a statement of fact.

Let's ask this: do you think Democratic candidates should deny that terrorism exists? Or only that they should not state that they would be just as capable if not more so than the inept republicans?

[Tom Joad]

23. She does support Bushie wars, after all, what do you expect?

[killbotfactory]

24. Yes, another attack against the country and people will rally around the republicans

What the fuck?!

[mod mom]

25. Why does she think it would advantage the pugs? Did they keep us safe from 911?

DESPITE THE MOUNTAIN OF WARNINGS INCLUDING THE AUGUST PDB WARINING US. DESPITE FRENCH AND GERMAN INTELLIGENCE WARNING US?

THIS IS A BIG MISTAKE WHICH PLAYS RIGHT INTO rove's PLAYBOOK SAYING THE PUKES ARE STRONGER ON DEFENSE!

[sandnsea]

32. Trash Dems for her own benefit

Just like she's done for the last 6 years. No surprise here.