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Skip Intro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 01:49 PM
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Wha? Hillary says surge not working? Start bringing troops home now?
Sheesh, to read this forum, you'd think she was a corporatist, bush-cheney-lite hawk that pushed bloody conflict for sport.

But then you read her actual words and...

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August 22, 2007 -- Washington, DC – “During my last visit to Iraq in January, I expressed my reservations about the ability of the Iraqi government, led by Prime Minister Maliki, to make the tough political decisions necessary for Iraq to resolve its sectarian divisions.

Since my visit, Iraqi leaders have not met their own political benchmarks to share power, modify the de-Ba'athification laws, pass an oil law, schedule provincial elections, and amend their constitution. During his trip to Iraq last week, Senator Carl Levin, the Chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee on which I serve, confirmed that the Iraqi Government’s failures have reinforced the widely held view that the Maliki government is nonfunctional and cannot produce a political settlement, because it is too beholden to religious and sectarian leaders. I share Senator Levin’s hope that the Iraqi parliament will replace Prime Minister Maliki with a less divisive and more unifying figure when it returns in a few weeks.

As I have said many times before, there is not a military solution in Iraq but progress will only come from political reconciliation and compromise from the Iraqis themselves. Given that reality, the President’s escalation strategy is not succeeding.

Our military has performed magnificently in Iraq but ultimately the future of Iraq will be decided by the Iraqis themselves. Rather than continue an escalation policy that is not fostering political progress in Iraq, we need to send a message to Iraq's leaders that the lack of political progress is unacceptable. Our best hope of fostering political progress in Iraq is to begin the immediate withdrawal of U.S. troops.”
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surely, this must be some rovian triple-reverse mind trick, or something...
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sailor65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 01:50 PM
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1. Kinda like Michigan Weather
Give her a few minutes, she'll shift.
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RufusTFirefly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 01:53 PM
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2. "tough political decisions" is shorthand for...
"Give us your oil!"
Maliki isn't rolling over and coughing up Iraq's oil wealth to American companies.
That can be somewhat problematic if you're a neo-con corporatist.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 01:54 PM
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3. "Any way the wind blows...doesn't really matter...to MEEEEEE"
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:16 PM
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10. Ok, thank you for embedding THAT song in my head for the day
NOT

Mama mia,mama mia,mama mia let me go



:banghead:
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HeraldSquare212 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 01:54 PM
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4. penalized five yards for unnecessary pot-stirring.
that's a different statement than the one that caused the ruckus.
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 01:58 PM
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5. That is because there was a GOP nod fromWarner. He spoke first
and then her rhetoric changed. Hillary is the perfect political animal.And one can almost admire the swiftness of her response to shifting winds and audiences.However, that may have been the politics of yesteryear and has to be matched with an engaging personality to work.Unforatntely, this is not the case with Sen.Clinton.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:08 PM
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6. She got called on her pandering
and changed her tone. No surprise there.

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ProSense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:13 PM
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7. Hillary develops Foot in Mouth Disease on Dumping al-Maliki
Edited on Fri Aug-24-07 02:13 PM by ProSense
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:15 PM
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8. Hey -- Hillary IS NOT "a corporatist, bush-cheney-lite hawk that pushed bloody conflict for sport"!!
She pushed it to further her political career. Just wanted to get that straight.



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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-24-07 02:15 PM
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9. If it's Friday, she says bring the troops home.
If it's Monday ........
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