i hate to bring this up but

[dontstopthere]

(and i like Edwards too) this is the reason that Edwards is not a better candidate than Kerry to go into the general election.

this article is from today's Wilmington Star News:

VOTERS DECIEVED

EDITOR: The writer of the Feb. 9 "Sen. No-Show" hit the nail on the ehad regarding our not-so-distinguished senior senator. He could have gone even further. In my opinion, the senator, aka Sen. M.T. Suit, should, were it an option, be charged with fraud for the disenfranchisement of thousands of voters who elected him to represent them - and all North Carolinians - and conduct their business for six years. Instead...off he goes to run for higher office. The time and money of many were wasted and, more important, our vote hase been negated. The deception of his constituency seems to have been his intention from the inception. As an American, a law enforcement office for nearly 30 years, and a combat veteran, I am disheartened - in fact, frightened - to see how many are drawn to this cosmetically enhanced overly ambitious void.

*****

Edwards has no hope in NC.

[MsUnderstood]

1. What are you talking about?

[dontstopthere]

2. people in north carolina hate John Edwards n/t

[KoKo]

3. Not all, but most feel about him the way this letter writer does. Where

has he been since he became NC Senator? Running for President, missing votes and barely visible here, unless to attend a fund raiser.

[spooky3]

8. no, that is your opinion, but it is not shared by the majority of those in

NC. See my post below and search for other posts if you want the link to the real evidence rather than anecdotes.

[Kahuna]

45. What accomplishments are Edwards running on?

I don't know. Can you help me out?

[AP]

47. One big one is enfranchising thousands of NC'ians disenfranchised by

Helms Machine.

Remember how much we cared about Black voters in FL2000? Well, Edwards has a track record of giving them a voice.

[Lex]

26. Pure speculation by you.

The facts and numbers point to a different conclusion.

See AP's post #19 in this thread.

[jmoss]

41. I strongly DISAGREE with thread...

First, I live in North Carolina. My entire family and I are very proud of a North Carolinian with the potential to become President. He will do more for this State in that role, than he EVER could in multiple terms as a 1/100th of the Senate.

Second, He has a broad appeal. Please don't fault him for that. Al Gore was strongly considering him for VP in only Edwards' 2nd year in office. If you feel this strongly about your Senator, than the Erskine Bowles campaign could REALLY use you!! :-)

Lastly, John Edwards has a better voting participation record this term and last then does John Kerry and Joe Lieberman. Check your facts!!

[citizen snips]

6. I am from N.C. and I don't hate Edwards.

n/t

[HuskerDem]

22. Hate is too strong a word

But his re-election polls were in the toilet before he started running for Prez. He wasn't going to make it to a second term so he decided to shoot the moon instead.

I lived in Willow Spring for 8 years and still know many there. None of the people I know in NC are happy with Edwards or support his bid. Their view is he couldn't do the job at home so why would they want him in the White House?

[citizen snips]

33. Wait a minute.

I am from N.C. and I think Edwards has done a great job. See post #15.

[HuskerDem]

39. I'm just reporting the impressions of the people I know

We have 8 families we keep up with in the Raleigh/Durham area, mostly in Wake County. 1 are shameless republicans the other 7 are divided between (formerly) Clark, Dean and 1 Kucinich family but oddly enough no Edwards supporters. Those are the people I know.

[AP]

18. Only the ones who loved helms, the corporatocracy and pig farming.

[AP]

31. From the Edwards blog today:

Visitors Beware!
Posted by Betty in NC
Tuesday February 17, @12:38PM

If anyone has come to this web log to learn about John Edwards, please be aware that supporters of other candidates, or of pres. Bush, are very active on this page today. In my state of NC, John Edwards upset a lot of diehard Republicans when he beat the Jesse Helms political machine and was elected to the senate. (We also elected a Democrat as governor as a result!) When you see a negative comment posted here, please see it for what it is and just scroll through it! I think everyone who supports other candidates should go to their own candidates weblog and post positive comments for their man there!

[bowens43]

36. Nonsense.

My neighbors, coworkers and friends, all North Carolinians , think quite highly of the Senator.

[jmoss]

42. I respectfully DISAGREE.......

First, I live in North Carolina. My entire family and I are very proud of a North Carolinian with the potential to become President. He will do more for this State in that role, than he EVER could in multiple terms as a 1/100th of the Senate.

Second, He has a broad appeal. Please don't fault him for that. Al Gore was strongly considering him for VP in only Edwards' 2nd year in office. If you feel this strongly about your Senator, than the Erskine Bowles campaign could REALLY use you!! :-)

Lastly, John Edwards has a better voting participation record this session and last then does John Kerry and Joe Lieberman. Check your facts!!

[glarius]

38. Edwards was not so charming on CBC in an interview I saw with Evan

Soloman, a hard questioning journalist...It was a couple of months ago and I don't remember what they said exactly, but when Evan asked him something he didn't like, rather than the charming smile and smooth answer he gives on Amrican TV, he was quite snippy and cool...I think he thought it would never be seen on USA TV, so he didn't have to watch himself....

[jmoss]

43. get your facts straight, please

Please don't post negative comments about candidates with phrases like, "I don't remember what they said exactly, but.....quite snippy and cold.

This leaves me to believe that it was a possibly offensive question that a foreign press person had no qualms about asking.

..leave it alone!

[glarius]

49. Sorry you feel this way....I posted this at the time it happened and an

American DU member had seen it and agreed with what I said at that time...Soloman is a very professional, fair journalist...It wasn't an offensive question, but pertinent, I do remember that...Offensive is not Soloman's style....Perhaps you think I shouldn't give my opinion, since I'm not American...but we in Canada are GREATLY effected by who you have as president...No offence meant...:)

[mmonk]

4. A radio station disc jockey

here in NC awhile back read the headline from the paper here on the air, "Edwards in Unfamiliar Territory" and then said, "no they aren't talking about North Carolina, they were talking about Wisconsin." That's pretty much what alot of people here think regardless of what his supporters here (in NC) may say. Is it fair? Probably not, but that's the impression Edwards would have to contend with here.

[spooky3]

5. Polls show that 93% of NC Democrats and 55% NC overall approve of JE's

run for President. This was reported in the Charlotte News-Observer and has been linked several times on DU previously.

So this letter writer and those folks on DU who like to beat this drum are in the minority.

I am sure it would not be difficult to find people who angrily disapprove of every one of our candidates in their home states, particularly if they are from a red state.

[mmonk]

14. he "might" win this state

but has pronounced liabilities in that area. Approval for the run doesn't necessarily translate to votes. He is NOT hated by the majority, but is not as steady in support as other NC congressional reps either Rep or Dem. He could still win possibly though.

[Lex]

30. Edwards won his Senate seat in a RED state

and there are still plenty of people here in NC who are still pissed about it.

I wonder why people feel the need to repeat utter BS about Edwards here at DU.

Most people here in NC do support Edwards' run for the Presidency. The N&O article is link below in AP's post.

[rucky]

7. The Congresspeople in this campaign must've known their recent votes

(or lack thereof) would be an issue in their campaigns. So they're faced with a problem: voting to represent their state/district, voting for popularity, or - when there's a schedule conflict, political conflict, etc... just not voting.

FYI: Dennis Kucinich has not missed a single vote during his campaign. If you're going to chastize the other candidates for doing so (Kerry no better than Edwards), you gotta give Dennis credit for this. Too bad he's "unelectable" :eyes: .

[spooky3]

9. I believe someone posted earlier that DK HAS missed votes

but he has missed the fewest of all the candidates.

[dontstopthere]

11. i love dennis. his only actual flaw

is that it looks like his hair is dyed pretty black (just kidding, dennis is awesome...the real deal, if you will)

[rucky]

28. ....as an Eastern European with an unruly black mane

I resemble that remark!

:)

[seaglass]

16. Smart people know that any candidate running for office

does make sure they vote if the vote will make a difference between a bill passing or not. Smart people know that the party leaders in Congress communicate with candidates when the vote count suggests that their vote is needed.

We just need to educate those who don't understand this.

[rucky]

24. Smart people know that the people wouldn't care

even if they were "educated" on it.

Call me a dumbass, but elected officials should do the job they're getting paid for.

[HuskerDem]

32. Rucky you dumbass!

JOKE......... JOKE JOKE JOKE JOKE JOKE! I'm sorry I just had to Rucky! You asked!

Mods: please don't send me to hell for this?

I agree with you Rucky. If a person is not doing their job the honorable thing to do is step aside or at the very least return your salary.

[patricia92243]

10. It's because NC is basically a Republican state. If a Pub did the very,....

exact same thing - it would be wonderful, great, ad nauseum

[citizen snips]

12. N.C. Gov. Mike Easley supports John Edwards.

n/t.

[dontstopthere]

13. i have a question, cuz ive only been here a year

is Easley slated to win again?
and does Bowles have any chance?

[mmonk]

17. Both are capable of winning

[citizen snips]

21. I don't know what office Bowles is winning for.

But Easley I think will most likely will win again. There has never been a repuke gov. in N.C.

[mmonk]

25. There has been two

that I know of. Bowles for Edwards' senate seat.

[Toronto Ron]

46. Bowles has a very good chance

The DNC feels very good about this race, more so than the other Senate races in the south. Bowles lost by 9 points to Liddy (wife of Limpy) Dole in 2002, which sounds like a lot, but really isn't, given the bitch's name recognition and strong support of the "war president", not to mention poor Dem turnout in '02 in general. Bowles is an excellent candidate and a very nice guy (my wife chatted with him a couple of weeks ago); I will be working hard to ensure he gets Edwards' seat.

[AP]

15. This is a minority opinion. 93% of NC'ians approve of Edward's run.

Edwards' N.C. support up

...The wider acceptance is due in large part to warmer feelings among fellow Tar Heel Democrats: 93 percent now approve of Edwards' run, compared with 67 percent a year ago, according to the survey by Research 2000 of Rockville, Md

http://www.newsobserver.com/edwards/polls/story/3207866p-2878099c.html

[Lex]

19. Yep. His detractors are

FULL of it about him having no support in North Carolina.

It's just pure BS.

It is clear, particularly when you read the N & O article you linked, that Edwards has PLENTY of support in NC.

Why people keep printing BS about Edwards' support in NC is beyond me. I guess it makes them happy inside for some reason.

[mmonk]

20. NC could actually be a swing state

that could swing the election for Dems.

[AP]

29. It's worth 15 EVs this year. Another thing about NC is that so many

people have friends who've moved there, people from all over the country feel connected to it.

[citizen snips]

34. Yes we do support Edwards.

And we are proud of it.

[HFishbine]

40. The North Carolinian came to support Edwards presidential bid

when he announced that he would not also strive to keep his senate seat. This means we may now have a responsive democratic senator for a change.

[Lex]

23. You might want to check

your facts.

See AP's post and N&O link below. Post #19 in this thread.

[Cuban_Liberal]

27. You can't call candidates by alternate names.

"...the senator, aka Sen. M.T. Suit....". Doesn't matter if it's a direct quote, either, it still violates the rules.

[bowens43]

35. Being a North Carolinian I can safely say

that this is a bunch of crap and that Edwards will do very well here.
The writer is obviously a bushbot. I do agree that Kerry is the better candidate but this editorial is bullshit.

[citizen snips]

37. Exactly.

The article dose not represent every North Carolinian's opinion.

[A-Schwarzenegger]

44. Why do you "hate to bring this up"?

[dontstopthere]

48. sorry.

"You can't call candidates by alternate names.

'...the senator, aka Sen. M.T. Suit....'. Doesn't matter if it's a direct quote, either, it still violates the rules."

sorry.

the only reason I posted this is because it is a concern. I know many a-people here and most of them dislike Edwards. I'm terribly sorry to have offended anyone or to have misrepresented the facts, that's just the impression that I got and this article represented that sentiment.

i don't want to make any enemies here, but what I say is not complete BS you know. I think we are all in this together and we all want what is best for the country, so please don't hate me.

and in response to why i brought it up. everyone wonders what each person will bring to the ticket and I was concerned that Edwards may not be able to take NC in the general election.