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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 12:09 PM
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I support Bill Richardson... for VP no joke.
Edited on Sat Aug-25-07 12:11 PM by LeviathanCrumbling
Considering the vastly expanded powers of the Vice Presidency he is the best choice for the next person to run our country. No really I'm not joking.

Think about it, what are the chances that the new powers of the office of the VP will be curtailed anytime soon? Unless congress decides to step in (don't count on it) then it would be up to president, and it unlikely that the president would do it either.

The Ted Nugent's of the world might also think twice before they shoot at Obama or Clinton if Bill Richardson was the VP.

After 8 years of Cheney, 8 years of Richardson is just what we need.

I know this sounds like a joke, but once again I am serious, think about it.
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daninthemoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 12:14 PM
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1. I like it. I like Richardson so much in the abstract for his experience,
but he has been very weak in the "debates", and keeps putting his foot in his mouth, which of course the msm jumps all over in their headlong rush for an Obama v Clinton showdown.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 12:17 PM
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2. Let one of the pretty ones win the popularity contest,
then let Richardson get to work.
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Colobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 12:20 PM
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3. Richardson has what it takes, he just projects himself the wrong way.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 12:26 PM
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4. If Cheney can become VP then with the right person on the top of the ticket
Richardson would be no problem.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 12:45 PM
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5. Then stop, please.
He's said he doesn't want the job. I think he would be wasted in that job.

If you want to support him for something besides President, please support him for Secretary of State. At least his considerable talent would be put to good use in that position.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 01:05 PM
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11. First of all have you ever seen a primary before?
No one running for President ever admits that they would accept a VP seat (but Gore and Edwards both changed their tune when called upon to serve.)

Second of all where have you been for the last 8 years? The OVP runs the show! The POTUS may be the decider but the OVP gives him the options.

Do you really think the Cheney isn't in charge?

And just as a side note I don't care how he feels about it. If he is called to serve he should answer, because he is the best suited for the job that needs to be done.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 01:17 PM
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12. Few candidates talk about being VP, at all
Richardson has, and at the very beginning of his campaign when he announced his bid for the presidency. He's made himself very clear.

As for being in charge behind the scenes, I think you have confused your parties. The party of the ventriloquist's dummy is over there on the right.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 01:47 PM
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13. It isn't about left right, it is about the expanded powers of the OVP
Edited on Sat Aug-25-07 01:50 PM by LeviathanCrumbling
the Genie is already out of the bottle.

Edit: Obama, Biden, Edwards, Gore and Bradley have all talked about not looking for the VP slot while running and all for the same reason, seems that reporters just love that question.

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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 12:48 PM
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6. I wholeheartedly agree.
He is very qualified for the Vice Presidency. I would like to see an Obama/Richardson ticket, or, failing that, Edwards/Richardson.
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PBass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 12:50 PM
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7. I'm luke warm on Richardson as president,
and if he isn't a great potential president then I don't see any point in putting him in the "on deck" (VP) slot. Ideally, after two terms of (?) the Democratic VP runs for two terms (and wins) :)

Personally, I hope that whoever wins the Democratic nomination picks another Democratic frontrunner for VP. I think Senator Clinton would make a great VP, and the same goes for Obama and Edwards. I think any combination of those three would be a terrific ticket, and a winner at the polls.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 12:50 PM
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8. I'm intrigued...
but I need more. What qualities exactly bring you to that conclusion? (I can think of a few, but I want to hear yours first.) :D
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ToeBot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 12:55 PM
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9. After 8 years of Cheney, the powers of the VP should be vastly reduced, by legal mandate.
I'd have no problem with Richardson as Vice President then, he can man a broom at the Capitol building.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 12:57 PM
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10. The powers of the VP should be curtailed, but there is a lot of things
that we should do that we don't, and I have a feeling that this will end up on that list.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 01:53 PM
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14. Richardson would be an excellent choice for VP
and would help the Dems in the western states (and Alaska), I am sure.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 01:59 PM
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16. It would put the southwest into play like never before.
As long as McCain isn't resurrected it could even make the difference in AZ.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 02:02 PM
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18. He'd be great for both energy and the environment. n/t
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 01:56 PM
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15. Richardson's position on the ticket in September '08 may surprise you
Don't be so sure he won't end up with the nomination.

He's got all the right pieces , it's only his actual campaign that isn't running on all cylinders yet.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 02:00 PM
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17. Agreed!
:hi:
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 02:05 PM
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19. I just don't see it, in fact it might be a waste, let a pretty one with
a heap of cash do the heavy lifting for a few months, then repeat in four years. (ok that time I was joking... a little)
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 02:10 PM
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20. Go to one of his appearances. You'll like him
I was fortunate enough to spend some time with him as we waited in the wings for him to appear at a Progressive Caucus dinner at the Democratic Convention in San Diego.
I was REALLY impressed by him. He gave a kick ass speech as well. His "people" are young and enthusiastic. I looked at his advance people and said " you know, I was you, once" LOL
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 02:20 PM
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22. Oh I like him a lot, I just don't think he can win a popularity contest
in a country where most of the voters are asleep a the wheel.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 02:10 PM
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21. I think in the general election, head-to-head against ANY
Edited on Sat Aug-25-07 02:14 PM by Blue_In_AK
of the Republicans, Richardson's common sense and down-to-earthness, plus his wide-ranging experience, would win over many Independents and even moderate Republicans. None of the Republican candidates even come close.

As I said in another post this week, I'm tired of the bombast. I LIKE that Richardson doesn't get in our faces, but instead quietly puts forth good ideas -- like not leaving a permanent American presence in Iraq, like encouraging diplomacy and cooperation between the nations, like revisiting marijuana laws, etc. For the most part, I like the way he thinks.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 03:18 PM
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23. Have you seen this yet?
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 04:21 PM
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24. No, I hadn't seen that yet,
but it reaffirms my position that he would probably do well in Alaska, given our large Native population.
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janx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 04:24 PM
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25. Yup!
Notice that Gravel attended...I'm amazed that the other candidates weren't there. Dean was there.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 04:48 PM
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26. Gravel's going to be up here speaking
somewhere this coming week. If it doesn't cost an arm and a leg to get in, I might check him out just for fun. I always get such a kick out of him at the debates, plus he was my senator for a while.
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Fly by night Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 05:38 PM
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27. Gore/Richardson '08 -- Intelligence, empathy, experience, energy, earth-friendly
Sounds like a winner to me.
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Exultant Democracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-25-07 06:49 PM
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28. Well the clock is starting to run out on Gore for this race.
At the most he has 5 more weeks, after September is just to late.
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