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illinoisprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 01:29 AM
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Another Reason Florida is wrong
If they push it so that Iowa ends up in December there could be some major problems with fundraising.
You think the money is obscene now? Just wait if this happens and this may be another reason for the state to get their act together and quit acting like a bunch of babies.

http://politicalwire.com/

"If Iowa pushes its presidential caucus into December of this year, could candidates tap old money veins all over again? The payoff could be millions of dollars of new, unanticipated cash," reports the AP. "The possibility is sending campaign finance teams to the law books. A wrinkle in federal law could open a tempting new money cycle for 2007 that would allow candidates to solicit donors who have already given the maximum."

"Under federal law, candidates can raise up to $2,300 from donors for primary elections and another $2,300 for the general election. Because the presidential nominating process requires numerous state primaries and caucuses, federal law states: 'All elections held in any calendar year for the office of the president of the United States (except for the general election for such office) shall be considered to be one election.'"

"In short, a strict reading of the law means the contribution limits apply only to primaries and caucuses held in 2008. If a state moves its primary or caucus to 2007, it could mean a whole new cycle."
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 01:44 AM
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1. Are we going to watch on TV the Florida delegates being denied seating at the Convention?
I want you to consider this carefully because that is exactly where this shit is heading to if it is not resolved soon.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 01:53 AM
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2. You really don't know the Florida Dems.
They are out for themselves, and no one else.
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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 02:05 AM
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3. And IA and NH aren't?
This whole situation is a big mess, but perpetual special status for these two states is inherently anti-democratic.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 02:09 AM
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4. Then let Florida have it, dissolve the DNC...
Fire Dean, get Harold Ford in there as Carville says to straighten things out.

Good idea.

Fire his ass. Fire all their asses. Let Florida be in control with CA second.

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LeftCoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 02:10 AM
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5. That'd make about as much sense as our present system.
:shrug:
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 02:17 AM
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6. Oh, since Florida said Dean was stealing their votes...get him out of there.
I hate to see our party come to this.

But Bill Nelson is an asshole threatening a good man with a lawsuit after he lied about him.
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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 02:31 AM
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9. Coming from the state with a gazillion electoral votes...
There are more than a handful of states, y'know.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 06:44 AM
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11. Maybe we should take this opportunity to state our case?
The info is out there. Break down those business organizations and semi-secret political-economic organizations where they rub elbows with Republicans.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 02:28 AM
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7. Oh hells bells, they're all acting like a bunch of whiney prima donnas.
Edited on Sun Aug-26-07 02:31 AM by acmavm
edit: pri·ma don·na a temperamental person; a person who takes adulation and privileged treatment as a right and reacts with petulance to criticism or inconvenience.
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jmp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 02:30 AM
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8. Not to worry. Howard Dean will simply impose ...
A fund raising limit at the wave of his hand. State and federal laws mean nothing compared to the will of the Godfather.

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Hobarticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-26-07 02:35 AM
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10. No, you'll "force" him to accept the delegates...remember?
How's that plan coming along?
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