Maybe Obama didn't know about Senator Coburn's hateful comments?

[ecstatic]

:shrug:
Obama was put in the awkward position of naming a few republican friends. He probably didn't have the luxury of googling up quotes just to stay on the safe side. He may not have known the extent of Coburn's bigotry... After all, these guys act totally different when on Capitol Hill.

Wouldn't it be more effective to confront Obama directly about this issue, rather than jump to conclusions or guilt by association?

[snowbear]

1. My Gawd the anti-Obama crowd is DESPERATE !!!

Not you Truth, I have no idea who you support.

But if you don't drop in here daily, it's so laughable to see the same 5 or 6 people sending out one after another slam against Senator Obama.

If they weren't worried about him, they wouldn't be on this constant tirade.

Now... what was it you were saying about the company one keeps?

[Fearless]

5. Exactly.

I've stopped clicking on suspect links myself. Not just on Obama, but on all the candidates. This is not helping us at all.

[Bluebear]

11. So Obama deserves no scrutiny then? Else it's 'desperate' or bashing?

OK.

[killbotfactory]

2. NEVER!

"Wouldn't it be more effective to confront Obama directly about this issue, rather than jump to conclusions or guilt by association?"

Where's the fun in that?

[draft_mario_cuomo]

3. So he doesn't know about the bigoted views of a friend/co-worker of his?

To believe what you are saying Obama must have been lying about being friends with Coburn. Obama surely reads the newspaper. Coburn's comments were big news and occurred in the same year that Obama was running for the senate.

[ecstatic]

4. The word "friend" barely has meaning anymore. Hell, he has like half a million "friends"

on Myspace. He was using the term loosely, of course. What in the world would they have in common outside of the Senate halls?

[draft_mario_cuomo]

6. How do you know what he was "really" saying or what kind of relationship they have?

There are numerous examples of politicians being friends even though they disagreed with each other on most issues.

==What in the world would they have in common outside of the Senate halls?==

#1, they are two of 100 senators. That gives them something very important in common. #2 they were both freshman senators in 2005. That is another important thing that they have in common. #3, think of the numerous traits and interests people have. Maybe they like to get together to watch the big game? Maybe they have a similar sense of humor? Maybe they share an interest in a particular movie genre? And so on.

[Jim Sagle]

7. So now that he knows, what will he conclude?

[draft_mario_cuomo]

8. Great point. Will he denounce his friend's remarks?

You and I both know the answer... Even if he somehow did not know of Coburn's specific comments he likely had to know of his bigotry, since they are friends. Moreover, they are co-workers. What do you think Coburn says when GLBT issues come up in the senate? Is Obama MIA each time Coburn speaks on GLBT issues? I doubt it.

[snowbear]

9. Your obsesssion is becoming borderline..... twisted.

You are literally OBSESSED with tearing down Senator Obama; calling his DU supporters "brownshirts" and refusing to explain what you mean by it ---- and it doesn't matter when a person logs on here or how long they're gone ---

You are here 24/7 and nothing but hatred spews from your mouth about this sitting senator and presidential candidate.

This is as sad as it gets at DU folks.. And you have to ask yourselves..

WHY??

So tell us d_m_c -- why do you call Senator Obama supporters "brownshirts"?

[draft_mario_cuomo]

10. I made that comment about 2 months ago and specifically said why

The answer? They, meaning a segment of Obama supporters here, seek to enforce a rigid adherence to the Official Story on Obama and go after anyone who dares to even questions, let alone criticize Obama. They apparently got StudentsMustUniteNow and MalloyLiberal banned during the intervening period. For what? The audacity of asking questions.

You are a good example. What did I say to attack Obama in this thread? Like a typical Obama supporter you do not respond to the actual argument made (i.e. that he likely is actually friends with Coburn, almost certainly knew of Coburn's bigotry) and opt to attack the messenger. You are not one of the "brownshirts" but part of the Obama thought police. The difference is a matter of degree in how aggressive Obama's shock troops are in trying to stifle dissent. The very same people who angrily cry foul when Obama is questioned or criticized are silent regarding the same things being done to other candidates--or supportive, or even guilty of doing the same thing so long as it is regarding someone other than His Majesty. We have two great examples here on the frontpage. Notice those bitterly whining about my thread on Obama's experience have no objections to the prior similar thread on Clinton? That thread received 12 recs and some of the faux outrage whiners were likely among that 12.

Speaking of "obsession", why do you remember an obscure comment I made 2 months ago?

[snowbear]

12. D-m-C

First of all, unlike you ...a supposed Edwards supporter (God help the Senator if this is the type of assistance he's getting - ) .. I have not declared my support for any candidate, and have said countless times that there's a big fat permanent dividend (oil) check going to whoever wins the Democratic nomination.

How can anyone here forget those disgusting brownshirt comments? I still recall how upset it made DU'er RufusDog.


Answer me this -------->>>

If Senator Obama is nominated, will you be on here supporting him to the bitter end??

[draft_mario_cuomo]

18. That poster is a confirmed hypocrite, like 99% of the Obama thought police

Ever see these people whine about posts criticizing people other than Obama? Some of they very people who whine the loudest are guilty of doing the same themselves...One guy once posted the first 2 paragraphs of an article on Edwards to make him look anti-union. He omitted the third paragraph because that disproved his attack. Another once claimed Edwards saying his southern and rural roots made him the most electable was him saying him being a white male made him more electable. This person not only did not condemn Obama and Axlerod when they claimed him being black makes him the most electable, this person vigorously defending those comments! A third big whiner routinely attacks HRC--without any evidence, calls her a neocon, Republican, etc. There are numerous other examples...

Come back and talk to me when you get consistent on your "outrage"...

[MonkeyFunk]

15. Nonsense

they support their candidate and defend him against stupid attacks, just like the supporters of any other candidates. Calling that being a "brownshirt" is bullshit.

[ecstatic]

17. So Seinfeld knew about Michael Richard's views?

Hmmm...

[countmyvote4real]

13. Are we herding cats or what?

I have no idea what the basis for this discussion is supposed to be about. What are you people talking about?

I'm an Edwards supportor if I ever live to vote for them. :)

[snowbear]

14. I'm an Edwards supporter too CMY4real... And an Obama supporter... and

..... a supporter of whoever ultimately wins our parties nomination.

~~ But yes, I do believe some of our candidates are much more electable than others.

I still think Edwards may pick up the needed steam he needs once the Iowa caucus takes place though..

We shall see!

[wyldwolf]

16. maybe he'll blame it on his staff

[papau]

19. LOL - a low blow - but funny In any case "friends" failings are not yours so no real problem IMO

[Freddie Stubbs]

20. Maybe he does know, but believes that he can work with him on issues they agree on

Ted Kennedy and Orin Hatch work together, despite their differences on many issues.

[Inuca]

21. Absolutely!

All this is nonsense. Obama did not in any way endorse Coburn's crazy and bigited ideas, they simply cooperated on something they agreed on, and what they did was a pretty cool idea I might add.