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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 01:51 PM
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Edwards, Obama only Ds w more favorable than unfavorable
...Obama is tops among the Democratic candidates—50% favorable and 43% unfavorable.

Edwards and Thompson are the only other candidates with more favorable reviews than unfavorable. Edwards is plus four—48% favorable, 44% unfavorable...

Clinton, the best known of all the candidates, is viewed favorably by 47% of all voters and unfavorably by 50%. Opinions about Clinton are more strongly held than about any other candidate.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/daily_presidential_tracking_poll__1

Implications on electability?
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 01:59 PM
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1. 43% hard core Dem haters
That's what these polls mean. Do the world's hard core conservatives all move here or what?? It's just wrong that a small percentage of the world's population can literally destroy the planet everybody has to share.
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 02:02 PM
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2. LOL. Thompson's favorables have gone down and he isn't even campaigning.
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 02:03 PM
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3. ...on Rasmussen.
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durrrty libby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 02:34 PM
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4. Since Dems elect a dem nominee, how about going by those #'s
"Clinton is viewed favorably by 77% of Democrats, including 43% with a Very Favorable opinion. Twenty-one percent (21%) have an unfavorable view. Obama’s numbers among Democrats are also very strong—74% favorable and 24% unfavorable. These figures include 34% with a Very Favorable opinion of the Illinois Senator. Edwards is viewed favorably by 67% of Democrats and unfavorably by 28%."


Among Democrats, Clinton has the highest favorables

"Implications on electability?" I would say quite good. What is your point?
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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 02:43 PM
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5. Because the whole country elects the President. We just elect our nominee.
I have a lot of trepidation about Hillary in a GE. No matter who wins the Dem nomination, their favorable ratings are going to jump within the Democratic Party after they get the nod. Dems will rally behind their candidate, for the most part. Hillary's unfavorable ratings will hurt us in a general election. I am not saying that is a reason NOT to vote for her in the primaries, but it is true and ignoring it isn't going to make it go away.
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 03:19 PM
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6. What's the MOE?
We're talking about at most a 7% swing here.

Notice also the difference in undecideds. When you've been one of the top three smear targets for the last 15 years, a lot of peopl are going to dislike you. Luckily, she has an eight-digit sum sitting there waiting to change people's minds.

Meanwhile Obama and Edwards have suffered much less attack doggery, and yet still have unfav's within MOE most likely?

Again there is an absolute floor of 40% unfav for any Dem by the time the GE rolls around. Whoever the candidate is will be loathed by just under half our fellow citizens, guaranteed. The usual handwringing here about Hillary's negatives constantly ignores how close the negatives of the other candidates already are, and how much closer still they will end up after a year of swiftboating. The meme of hordes of right wingers who will rush out to vote against Hillary conveniently ignores that the same will be true of ANY nominee we could think of - up to and including God Almighty - by the time the votes matter.

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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 03:24 PM
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8. I am thinking maybe not.
I honestly don't think all of the Dem nominees will be equally hated by slightly less than half the country. My totally anecdotal and personal experience is that the Republicans in my family and of my personal acquaintance don't seem to get too excited about hating Edwards or Obama. They do have a built in and waiting to be tapped dislike of Hillary, however.
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 04:14 PM
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9. Wait
I bet they didn't viscerally hate Kerry in the Summer of 03 either, but the smear machine did a fine job.

Hillary is already pre-smeared. That's the only difference. Frankly I see it as more of an advantage than a disadvantage for her, as anything that comes out now will be discarded as ho-hum not that again unless they can find any new dirt on her (which considering how much effort has been spent trying to nail the Clintons for the last decade and a half would be a minor miracle).

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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 04:17 PM
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10. In the summer of '03, they were not disenfranchised. n/t
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 04:29 PM
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12. OK I'm lost....
Republicans and those who listen to the smear machine are dienfranchised now?

Hillary has done this to them?

I'm not sure where you're going here. All I'm saying is once anybody gets to be our nominee the RW attack dogs will make them out, non stop, to be a cross between Stalin and de Sade. An absolute minimum of 40% and probably closer to 50% of the electorate will believe them. They are very good at it. The meme that Hillary will energize the RW base to vote because she is more hated just means she's already received the treatment. The RW base WILL be energized to vote, and to vote against the Dem nominee. It's a guarantee, and who the nominee is makes no damn difference.

If Hillary is nominated and loses the general, which is certainly possible, it will be because she could not energize the far left, not because she energized the far right.

However given that likely primary voters are generally further to the extremes than GE voters, and given her stable and even growing lead in polls of likely Dem primary voters, maybe that's just a left leaning blogosphere phenomenon not duplicated in the real world.

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renie408 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 04:44 PM
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13. Sorry
I am trying to say that I think it will be harder to fire up people in the Republican party to vote 'against' an Edwards and an Obama this time around. Again, this is based purely on people I know (family and friends) who have said that they would either think about voting for Edwards or Obama or that they were sitting this one out. These same people find Hillary distasteful. And these same people were much more positive about Bush in '03 than they are about any of the GOP choices this time around.
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elizm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 04:28 PM
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11. No...Implications on nomination.....NOT electability.
...So your candidate wins the nomination and loses in the general election. What is it that you want anyway????????
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AtomicKitten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-27-07 03:21 PM
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7. good news
thanks
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 10:01 AM
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14. "Clinton is viewed favorably by 77% of Democrats," Nice link! Thanks!
You wonder: "Implications on electability?"
I answer: "Diet Dr. Pepper in twelve can fridge packs."
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 10:03 AM
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15. Which means she has a good chance of single-handedly blowing this election for Dems. (nt)
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 10:17 AM
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16. Thanks for the John Edwards Supporter opinion!
Edited on Tue Aug-28-07 10:19 AM by MethuenProgressive
:eyes:

"Clinton is viewed favorably by 77% of Democrats, including 43% with a Very Favorable opinion. Twenty-one percent (21%) have an unfavorable view. Obama’s numbers among Democrats are also very strong—74% favorable and 24% unfavorable. These figures include 34% with a Very Favorable opinion of the Illinois Senator. Edwards is viewed favorably by 67% of Democrats and unfavorably by 28%."

So, her 77% is the end of the world as we know it, but Edwards' 67% is the second coming?
Interesting math.
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