Drawing Thunderous Applause, Senator Clinton Maps Agenda

[Alamom]

(edited for copyright purposes - proud patriot Moderator Democratic Underground)


http://www.mvgazette.com/news/2007/08/28/hillary_clinton.php


Drawing Thunderous Applause, Senator Clinton Maps Agenda

By LAUREN MARTIN
8/28/07

Presidential candidate Hillary Clinton on Saturday called the Bush administration incompetent, the federal Katrina response an embarrassment and the national health care crisis a moral imperative. She called on the crowd's support to "take our country back." But the occasion of her speech ­­ - an old-style political stump with over 2,000 Vineyard people at the Tabernacle in Oak Bluffs - she called an overwhelming homecoming.

"As many of you know we have been coming to this magical Island as a family for 14 years," she said, nodding to her daughter Chelsea and her husband, former President Bill Clinton, who were with her. "No matter what was going on in the world, we always felt so welcome and so great and so supported."

And so it was on Saturday.

The late afternoon sun streaming through the stained glass above Mrs. Clinton was punctuated with flashes and the glow of cell phone cameras trying to capture her image. Everyone rose to their feet to greet her, the front-running contender in the Democratic primary race to become president of the United States in 2008. Oh, and to see Bill, whose appeal was evidently still intact.

Outside on the Camp Ground, behind the yellow ropes circling the Tabernacle, another few hundred spectators unwilling or unable to pay the $50 admission price (the event was sold out and then some) had set up lawn chairs and spread out blankets from the middle of the afternoon. Meanwhile in the checkout aisles at Reliable Market and other Circuit avenue shops, Islanders asked each other if they were headed for the event billed as "Make History with Hillary Clinton." A girl of about nine wore a Hillary sticker on her T-shirt and told anyone who was interested she was going to see the woman who would be the first woman president.

[Darth_Kitten]

1. I'm getting a warm, fuzzy feeling.

n/t

[Tellurian]

2. As Obama's support dwindles, Hillary's support resonates with Americans..

and the crowds are there showing their approval of the first woman president.

GO HILLARY!

[BeyondGeography]

3. Yep. Obama rallies have been like virtual graveyards lately

We can always count on you to ruin a warm fuzzy feeling, can't we?

And, here I was, actually smiling at the thought of that little 9-year-old with the Hillary t-shirt on.

[Laurab]

17. I'm still waiting for a link about his dwindling support

from that same poster, I believe - I was so happy to see a thread posted actually about Hillary from her supporters, rather than an attack thread on another candidate - it's so very rare, but somehow, even then Obama bashing shows up right away.

[goclark]

20. Ditto ~ I'm glad to hear Hillary speak out

She is saying the same thing Obama,and others, have been saying all along.

[Tellurian]

28. Hillary is inittowin...and her numbers reflect her resolve!

and her experience in running a campaign.

[superkia]

35. I think its a reflection of the MSM.

The media could have people standing in line for the newest $300 phone or whatever else they want to brainwash people with. Yes she has her supporters but I think you guys and gals underestimate the media in all of this!

[BeyondGeography]

24. Real enthusiasm for any of our candidates is a good thing

There's something exciting about 2,000 people showing up to cheer a Democrat, even if you're rooting for someone else.

[Tellurian]

27. Here a link fromyesterday mentioning his flagging numbers and support..

In the hopes of changing his strategy by NOT appearing in debates where his gaffes are live, he may still have some time to resurrect his failing campaign.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/hunter/530622,CST-NWS-hunter28.article

[Laurab]

34. I guess it's all in the way you read an article

but, it's nice to see an actual answer, anyway. Toward the end of the article, it does say that at the Iowa debate the next day, in an ABC poll, Obama was ahead of Hillary and Edwards but maybe you didn't read that far...

I'd go searching for anti-Hillary articles, but really, I don't see what it adds to anything. It was just so nice to see a Hillary supporter post something about HILLARY instead of the regular attacks on the other candidates, especially Obama, who must really worry you for you to spend so much time berating him.

[zulchzulu]

6. Nice, classless snip at Obama to pollute an otherwise nice post

:crazy:

[jgraz]

19. Who needs class when you're inevitable?

or courage, or vision, or core principles, or progressive values or or or ....

[jgraz]

22. "showing their approval of the first woman president"

Whoa -- Chelsea was there?

:P

[Armstead]

4. Matha's Vineyard is Home??!!!!

That's the problem.

Aside from it being added to the long list of Clinton "favorite homes" it shows how the Clinton's have lost touch with the real America.

[CTyankee]

5. Oak Bluffs has been a favorite vacation spot for black families who are not rich

for several generations, in case you were unaware that that was where clinton was speaking and to whom she was speaking.

I have been going to the Vineyard since 1999 and often catch the ferry that goes to Oak Bluffs. It is not like the chi chi areas you find around Edgartown and toward the center and west of the island. Generally, the island tends to attract liberals (I think of Nantucket as being more Republican, excepting of course, John Kerry's estate there).

So there is more to this than you think. Obama also held a fundraiser in Oak Bluffs this month.

I think Martha's Vineyard is somewhat magical, too. I love going there and spending time on the magnificent South Beach with my granddaughters. I will always remember it also as a sad place. My first visit was on the exact same weekend that John Kennedy, Jr. was lost flying to the island. I remember seeing a Coast Guard helipcopter flying over us early in the morning and I took my grandbaby out to see it and then hearing the news.

[Alamom]

7. Thank you for clarity and I'm sorry to hear you were there when *John-John was lost.

So many loses for one family to endure.......


* a term of endearment, since I'm old enough to remember the (Kennedy) children
....... the unforgetable salute....

[CTyankee]

16. Yes, and if there is one thing I'll never forgive Rush Limbaugh for it was

after John, Jr.'s plane was found. Rush had the indecency to speculate on the condition of John Jr.'s body after hitting the water. I remember thinking "What kind of person does this?" but then remembering that Rush was always a tub of blubber and John had been so wonderfully handsome.

[FormerDittoHead]

13. FWIW, (resident) tour guide there said it didn't really boom until the Clintons started vacationing

[Nedsdag]

15. Exactly!

My parents owned a home in Oak Bluffs for 22 years and before 1993 it WAS magical.

That all changed when the Clintons decided to make Martha's Vineyard their vacation spot. After they came, taxes rose, the clientele changed, more people bought property and built roads and streets where virgin land was, many established businesses either sold out or went out of business. The Vineyard's whole mystique changed for the worse. It's too bad because it was a beautiful place. It still is; however, it became more like the Hamptons than any place else.

FYI, I was also on the island the weekend JFK Jr.'s plane crashed. I even covered a portion of the story for my local paper at home.

[CTyankee]

18. Were you in Oak Bluffs at the time? I was in Matakeeset (sp?)

where my family rents a condo each year.

I remember walking on South Beach that fateful weekend, almost afraid of walking in the surf since we had just heard that John's sister in law's luggage had just been found washed up on the beach near Gay Head (I guess it's called Menemsha now).

I still have my Black Dog 1999 T shirt from that visit...

[Nedsdag]

23. I most certainly was.

I would go up there on the weekends to see the folks who were there for the summer. My mother woke me from a deep sleep to tell me what happened and I called the newspaper where I was working at that time to ask if they needed someone to cover some aspects of the story. They did and I was there for almost a week covering a portion of the story.

Gay Head is now called Aquinnah.

[CTyankee]

25. Yep it is Aquinnah. We go to a nice seafood restaurant there and then to the little ice cream stand

across from it. There's also a little T shirt shop nearby which is where I got a Menemsha Blues T shirt for my husband. My son in law, Bostonian that he is, will not buy a Black Dog T shirt but will buy the Menemsha Blues T shirt with the fish on the front. He thinks the Black Dog thing is too touristy, which it is.

Even tho it is always as crowded as hell when we go (early July)I am very fond of Edgartown. I once stayed at the Shiretown Inn and it was lovely, altho tiny and expensive. I got the shuttle over to Mattakeeset (I can't spell the thing!)to go to the beach with the grandkids...

BTW, is there a better ferry option than Woods Hole? I have taken the catamaran fast ferry from Quonset, RI a couple of times but it is extremely rough going. Woods Hole is a good 3 hours from New Haven. I hope New London gets another ferry at some point. It's only about an hour from me on I95.

[Nedsdag]

32. You just named all the car ferry options.

There are walk on ferries from New Bedford and Hyannis. Your next option is flying but I'm not a big fan of small planes.

[CTyankee]

33. I don't take a car. And actually, Quonset is not a car option. Parking is expensive

but it is right there, unlike the Woods Hole lots/shuttles arrangement. My last trip from Quonset, tho, was pretty awful. I should have realized that when I saw that they sold dramamine on board the ferry!

[MadHound]

8. This coming from the woman who voted for the IWR,

Continued to support the war via funding and words, has stated that she'll keep troops in Iraq, bungled her first chance at a universal health care plan, become way to cozy with Big Pharma and Corporate Health, and who has done absolutely nothing of substance to change America over from an oil based economy to renewable energy resources.

Why should I believe her now?

[AlGore-08.com]

9. Regardless of the candidate, this article is another example of the death of journalism

The headline states that a leading candidate for the Dem nomination mapped out her agenda. The OP has included the first four paragraphs and they include absolutely nothing about her agenda.

If the rest of the post contains more of the same article, it's not until paragraph 14 that the article includes part of her agenda. Then it only says Clinton has a "goal" of "quality affordable health care for every single American". Nothing in the article about how she plans to meet that goal, when she expects to achieve that goal, how much the plan should cost and how it will be paid for. (And that didn't have to be included in the speech - - the writer could have gotten it from the campaign later.) Also, what does "affordable" mean in the context, what does "quality" mean?

Finally, the focus on the audience reaction is questionable - - again, regardless of the candidate. Is it remotely meaningful that a candidate's supporters applaud their candidate with enthusiasm? Is it remotely meaningful what a candidate chooses as their campaign's background music? (I say "no" unless they haven't gotten permission to use the music - - or the lyrics include hate speech.)

Journalism is dead.

[Broke Dad]

10. Bashing Bush is the easy part . . .

I want to hear what she will do different and better than Bill. The cult of personality will not solve the big problems facing this country.

Cue the Obama "1984" commercial.

We can do better!

ABC!

ABC!

ABC!

[ryanus]

11. b b but, there was "thunderous applause"

how inspiring. Our Leader.

[smiley_glad_hands]

12. If I've got to vote for her, I will.

However, I'm in the Edwards camp right now.

[John Q. Citizen]

14. Misleading headline. I looked through the article and found no agenda, except perhaps,

her agenda to be president.

I like mom, apple pie, and a cool mountain stream.

But to call blue sky an agenda doesn't quite cut it.

[jgraz]

21. "except perhaps, her agenda to be president"

So, really, the article was dead-on accurate.

[William769]

26. K&R!

Thats our girl! :)

[Tom Joad]

29. every little thing she does is magic? Like supporting a genocidal war? like supporting unfair trade

laws? supporting media monopolies? corporate welfare "reform"? Opposing "hasty" retreats from Iraq?

seems more tragic than magic.

That little girl might have been equally impressed that we now have the first Black Woman Secretary of State... but there is the matter of substance of their policies we have to consider as well.

[bvar22]

30. "Senator Clinton Maps Agenda"??

So, where's the agenda? :shrug:

*"I'm going to be a president who gets back to setting big goals."
I would really like to know what these goals are before casting my vote. Bush set some pretty big goals too (converting the ME to Christian Capitalism).
Hillary certainly set some BIG fund raising goals, and achieved them. Too bad she hasn't set Withdrawal from Iraq, or REAL Universal HealthCare (single payer) as "goals".


*"quality affordable health care for every single American"
If she has a good plan, why won't she tell us about it?
She has been nauseatingly coy withholding info about her "plan". Like her previous plan, I fully expect that Hillary's new plan will divert taxpayer money into the pockets of the richest CEOs in history through some type of subsidy program for the working poor. Looking at her contributors, there is NO WAY she will do anything to disrupt the obscene gravy train of FOR PROFIT HealthCare.

Every other Democratic Candidate has given us the details of their plan. This leads me to believe that Hillary is keeping hers secret because she knows the Working Class won't like it.
The CEOS of the FOR PROFIT system have funneled $MILLIONS into Hillary's pockets, and the Clintons have a history of licking the hand that feeds them.

*"She promised universal pre-kindergarten"
What does this mean? Does she mean Universal FREE pre-kindergarten?
I could get behind this as a way to open the door to Universal FREE Child Care.
I doubt that Hillary supports Universal FREE pre-kindergarten, simply because if IT doesn't make money for their Corporate friends, a Clinton won't waste their time.


Hillary has been frustratingly tight with ANY details about her BIG PLANS. She just delivers the applause line and moves on.

"Affordable HealthCare" is NOT Universal HealthCare.
It is a step AWAY from Universal HealthCare.


People who let themselves be led like sheep deserve a sheep's fate.

[GeorgeGist]

31. The Republicans have been taking America back for decades.

Call me crazy, but how about a candidate who wants to take America forward.

[Imagevision]

36. Personally IO believe Obama was right stating Hillary would be "Bushlite" doesn't she sound so

wonderful with her positive goals for restoring sound leadership to the USA, (heavy sigh) and get prepared to hear the never ending saga of, "it's going to take another 4 more years to undo all the wrong that Bush has done and poof! - she'll be gone too...