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EV_Ares Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 08:33 AM
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Big Source of Clinton's Cash Is an Unlikely Address
Edited on Tue Aug-28-07 08:39 AM by EV_Ares
Family's donations closely track those Of Top Fund-Raiser
By BRODY MULLINS
August 28, 2007; Page A3 of WSJ -- snips from the article.

DALY CITY, Calif. -- One of the biggest sources of political donations to Hillary Rodham Clinton is a tiny, lime-green bungalow that lies under the flight path from San Francisco International Airport.

Six members of the Paw family, each listing the house at 41 Shelbourne Ave. as their residence, have donated a combined $45,000 to the Democratic senator from New York since 2005, for her presidential campaign, her Senate re-election last year and her political action committee. In all, the six Paws have donated a total of $200,000 to Democratic candidates since 2005, election records show.

That total ranks the house with residences in Greenwich, Conn., and Manhattan's Upper East Side among the top addresses to donate to the Democratic presidential front-runner over the past two years, according to an analysis by The Wall Street Journal of donations listed with the Federal Election Commission.

The Paws' political donations closely track donations made by Norman Hsu, a wealthy New York businessman in the apparel industry who once listed the Paw home as his address, according to public records. Mr. Hsu is one of the top fund-raisers for Mrs. Clinton's presidential campaign. He has hosted or co-hosted some of her most prominent money-raising events.

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http://www.netscape.com/viewstory/2007/08/28/big-source-of-clintons-cash-is-an-unlikely-address/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fonline.wsj.com%2Farticle%2FSB118826947048110677.html%3Fmod%3Dhpp_us_whats_news&frame=true




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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 08:57 AM
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1. This may embarrass Senator Clinton, and cause some bad press,
but she in no way is responsible for any of this, if anything is proved illegal. She, nor any of the candidates, can be expected to police activity like this or to even be aware of it. This will not have any great effect on her campaign, but it will be a small spike of bad press...
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NoFederales Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 09:26 AM
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2. Strange goings-on at the little lime green abode. Doesn't whomever who
watches the donation lists have a duty to alert someone about the 2002 law maybe being violated? I'll file this one away as another example of how election reform is broken and needs attention.

I don't expect Candidates to do mea culpas for these events, but I sure wish they would affirm a stance on how money is corrupting the election process, and vow to work on fixing the problem.

NoFederales
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Rydz777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 09:46 AM
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3. Exactly right. Our electoral process has become a long and
dreary exercise in money raising and sound bites. We'd better fix it soon - not just a tune up but a real overhaul.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 09:53 AM
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4. OMG, it's the nefarious apparel-industrial-complex at work!
The very nexus of corruption and secret agendas at work, right there under the flight path of the San Francisco International Airport. Somebody DO SOMETHING! BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE !!
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 10:08 AM
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5. Expect Rush Limbaugh to lead with this story today.
Edited on Tue Aug-28-07 10:09 AM by MethuenProgressive
It's his kind of story.
Google Earth shows the "tiny house" is in an ocean side development. Ah, but "nice home in desirable area" wouldn't make it sound so evil, would it? :eyes:
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 12:53 PM
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8. his substitute did
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 10:14 AM
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6. Reminds me of the role of Jackson Stephens and Riady in Bill's '92 run
Edited on Tue Aug-28-07 10:47 AM by EVDebs
"Stephens and Riady bought a bank in Hong Kong. Later Stephens would invite Riady to invest in a Little Rock, Arkansas bank called Worthen as well. In the meantime, Stephens found a new buyer for Lance's NGB stock. In December, 1977, Stephens introduced Lance to Agha Hasan Abedi (the founder of the Bank of Credit and Commerce International -BCCI). According to the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, they discussed the possibility that Abedi purchase the stock of Financial General Bankshares (later called First American Bankshares) held by Lance, Stephens and others and concocted a plan to take over Lance's stock of the National Bank of Georgia U.S. SEC v Lance et. al.). The SEC found out about the plan and sought a restraining order to prevent a foreign bank from taking over a U.S. bank. Years later it would be revealed that Abedi and accomplise Gaith Pharoan went right ahead anyway succeeding with the takeover in 1982 (Corporate Crime Reporter, July 22, 1991). Abedi used frontman Gaith Pharoan to act as his intermediary, taking over Lance's stake in the National Bank of Georgia for BCCI. In 1990, BCCI was convicted of money laundering for the Columbian Cocaine Cartels in Miami. In 1991, BCCI collapsed and millions of investors in 73 countries lost their life savings. (A Full Service Bank, Adams & Frantz, 1992). According to the Wall Street Journal, "BCCI represents the biggest bank robbery in history... (January 18, 1994)." And that BCCI was a "$10 billion or so" heist. (Wall Street Journal, October 28, 1994.)"

Jackson Stephens: the Father of WTI
http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:5WxFlVpPYO0J:www.greenlink.org/grassroots/soc/wastenot/97i02784.html+bill+clinton+jackson+stephens+bcci+money+rachel+ehrenfeld&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a

Rachel Ehrenfeld's book Evil Money lists Stephen's donations to Bill, albeit via a BCCI Swiss front, as originating with BCCI; and apparently at the same time Stephens hedged his bets by making a similar 'investment' in G W Bush's Worthen Bank.

Besides, the CIA had invested heavily in BCCI in case you hadn't heard. Maybe Hil learned a few tricks about following the money during those Watergate hearings. Nixon's source for the money in the Mexican bank (see footnotes of All The President's Men by Woodward and Bernstein around page 32-40 paperback) were "Chilean investors". It's not hard to imagine that CIA money would return to Nixon from his anti-Allende operations in Chile via these unnamed "investors". And besides, Woodward and Bernstein didn't really follow the money all the way back; in fact, when Congress tried to follow the money, see Renata Adler's 'In Search Of The Real Nixon Scandal' in her book Canaries In The Mineshaft, you find that that House banking committee investigation was stonewalled and eventually shut down.

"Wright Patman's eponymous committee played an important role in the early days of the Watergate scandal that eventually brought down President Richard Nixon. The Patman Committee investigated the hundred dollar bills found on the Watergate "plumbers" upon their arrest, suspecting they could directly link them to CREEP, the president's re-election committee. This investigative course was on the money, as it ultimately proved to be Nixon's undoing, although Patman's Committee was stonewalled by both Nixon and his Vice-President Gerald Ford. <1>"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wright_Patman

Follow the money, indeed.

(BTW, looking back on the BCCI scandal, First American has a rather large database to mine re financial information on US citizens. Just an informative tidbit,

First American Becomes Largest Database In The World
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BNP/is_12_23/ai_n6357142

"The Data Tree image library, which is often leveraged in conjunction with other First American data sources to provide the most comprehensive real estate reports available, is backed by a state-of-the-art disaster recovery solution that asynchronously mirrors the 210 terabytes of data to a remote site in Dallas."

Combined with the offshore Global Information Group in the Bahamas,

Bahamas Firm Screens Personal Data To Assess Risk
Operation Avoids U.S. Privacy Rules
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A36853-2004Oct15?language=printer

and access via Stephen's Alltel phone lines, and voila. Even more data to mine if ChoicePoint's database is accessed offshore too.

This would tell you that the CIA would want to continue ties to such a powerhouse of data).



So you can see, I won't be supporting Hillary for President this time around.



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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 10:16 AM
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7. Breaking news: The sun rises in the east!
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rinsd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 12:59 PM
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9. WSJ smears Hillary. Not exactly man bites dog (nt)
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EVDebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Aug-28-07 08:08 PM
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10. Common Cause wants this investigated
for what it's worth, reported on KPIX CBS News Channel 5 in the SF Bay Area

http://www.commoncause.org/site/pp.asp?c=dkLNK1MQIwG&b=186966

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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 01:50 PM
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11. I understand that Clinton is giving the money to charity (nt)
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cyclezealot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 02:15 PM
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12. The question is who are the Paws and Hsu.?
Who are they and what do they want. ? That is what needs to be asked when looking at the history of campaign cash. Names are not enough. What is it, they are associated with. The Apparel industry. That all that was offshored.
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ChiciB1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-30-07 02:29 PM
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13. I Can't Recall.... OOOPS, I Don't Remember Where I Heard It, But It
must have been C-Span or Democracy Now because those are the ones I watch the most, but the "Asian" donations are coming up again. Was it China or Korea??

Sorry I don't have a link, but I'm sure it will be rolling out again! Smells like Red Rover again and I'm sure he's digging that hole to China to find ANYTHING negative on her! It's a forgone FACT IMHO!

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