Is there any more news on the Utah Mine disaster at all? Does no one care anymore?

[saracat]

[Joe the Revelator]

1. The last hole they drilled found no livable space...

...what more would you like them to do?

[saracat]

2. Keep drilling, and report back. The families are at least entitled to the bodies.

And Murray should be in jail!

[Joe the Revelator]

15. Even at the cost of many more dead men?

Just how many bodies do you want to bring out of the mine?

[panader0]

3. The six miners are almost certainly dead

Asshole owner should be held accountable for "retreat" mining, and bush for scraping mine safety regulations. The relatives of the miners want the bodies back, but won't they just be buried anyway? I say close off the mine and make it a memorial to the dead. Any future rescue attempts may result in more unnecessary deaths. I was surprized that they didn't use robots early on instead of just drilling holes with limited views.

[saracat]

4. I would want the bodiers back.And I would want to know when they died or if they survived.

If they survived and Murray left them to die I would want him held accountable.He should be held accountable for their deaths in any event.

[mentalsolstice]

5. You would want the bodies back at what cost?

What if more people are killed trying to recover the bodies? How many more deaths before it's time to give up?

[saracat]

6. I would proceed with caution, but I would proceed. That is what the families want

and damned sraight what I would want if it were my loved one.Murray wants to seal it off and go right back to retreat mining using the same people that would work the rescue/recovery. So danger must not be the issue but money is.If they can resume mining, they can resume digging for the bodies.

[seriousstan]

12. Good. get a shovel and proceed. your lack of knowledge of mine instability is astounding.

[saracat]

19. I didn't say risk lives .I said continue drilling. if it is safe enough to continue retreat mining

as Murray intends it must be safe enough to drill! Or isn't it? Educate me as to the differnce.I would think the mining is more dangerous.

[Joe the Revelator]

16. So you want to just keep adding to the death toll to prove a point?

Come on.

[saracat]

20. Why add to the death toll? Drill with machines and use cameras.I didn't say send people down.

[AtomicKitten]

7. This country is on fire and unfortunately these disasters --

are lost in the chaos. Too bad really, because this is yet another example of this administration's incompetence and cronyism that should be shouted down. Maybe then the PTB would muster some decency and bring all the miners out so their families can have some closure.

[democrat2thecore]

8. Non-Union Mine

This is exactly what happens in a non-union mine. If this had been a UMWA site, (well, first of all they wouldn't have been mining there in the first place), there would be some serious accountability demanded by the families through the union. But, being non-union, it's all one to one and no organized procedures, in writing and signed, by Murray and the union.

[elfin]

10. Excellent point -

Thom Hartmann (Air America) said that it would never have happened in Canada due to the fact that their mines are unionized and have demanded and received stricter safety rules.

[democrat2thecore]

11. Absolutely! Hartmann is right. -nt

[seriousstan]

14. Westray Mine disaster, Plymouth, Nova Scotia, Canada (May 9, 1992) 26 killed.

[democrat2thecore]

17. Yep!

The union kept screaming about the unsafe conditions. But....a lot of good came from that disaster. Those miners did not die in vain. The aftermath was a model for a disaster shaping future policy regarding corporations and their accountability. Let's hope Murray Energy is held to task and similar legislation can come about so THESE miners didn't die in vain!

[elfin]

9. Good point - the news at this point

needs to be on the industry's corporate structure and their influence over Bush etc.

They are gone due to safety malfeasance by the company sanctioned by this administration.

At the very least, their familes should be astromically rewarded to head off the lawsuits. Hope they have a John Edwards or his ilk as their lawyer and the patience to stick it out.

I don't think anyone died making solar panels or windmills ---- let's change to give these workers better and safer energy producing work.

[roxnev]

13. If people in Utah

Would wake up, it was a Republican a$$ hole, who created the problem, so other than to tell them to vote Democratic, what can you do, for People who want to self destruct, for a one dollar a week tax cut. I voted for a Democrat.

[burrowowl]

18. Drill holes to send in cameras

if they are alive try to do something about.
But sending people into the mine, NO! The retreat mining has so unstablized the mine, unless they know exactly where the six miners are and dig a new direct shaft, only more deaths will occur. The owners and the Bu$h maladministration should be PROSECUTED!

[saracat]

21. That is what I think they should do! Or at least have the cameras locate the bodies!

[BlueIris]

22. Kick.

[saracat]

23. Thank you. I wish people cared more. I guess the story is over

and no one is interested anymore and yet those poor families continue to suffer and Murray wants to go right back to retreat mining!

[Judi Lynn]

24. Was thinking about it this morning. It's so sad. I guess they just stopped talking about it.

The last thing I heard was that some of the volunteer rescue workers said that they were trying to keep going, and had been "yelled at" by the mine officials.

If they mine officials were getting rude to the voluteers it means they just don't give a ####, and don't really care any more what anyone thinks.

Apparently, once the bright lights were gone, and the reporters faded away, it was business as usual immediately, as if this has never happened. I haven't heard a word since the report I mentioned.

[saracat]

25. Yeah.No cameras for Murray to cry crocadile tears into! It sickens me what a

ruch he was in to close down rescue opps and begin retreat mining the rest of the coal.If this is as dangerous as it appears, that mine needs to be shut down.If it is too dangerous for them to look for the trapped miners, and it may be, the mine needs to be shut dowm. Apparently they can't risk lives to save lives but they can risk lives to make Murray money!

[Judi Lynn]

26. Search for 6 Utah Miners Is Suspended

Search for 6 Utah Miners Is Suspended
By JENNIFER DOBNER 09.01.07, 2:02 AM ET

SALT LAKE CITY - The search for six men trapped in a coal mine during a cave-in nearly four weeks ago is effectively over, after a robotic camera failed to provide any useful information, a federal mine official said Friday.

"We talked with the families and we basically told them we're pretty much out of options," said Rich Kulczewski, spokesman for the federal Mine Safety and Health Administration.

Mining officials told the families that the robotic camera was successfully dropped down the fourth of seven holes bored into the mountain, but that it quickly became stuck in the mud as it moved over piles of debris, Kulczewski said.

Officials also could not retrieve the camera and had to leave it stuck about 50 feet from the surface, he said.

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Very sad news, saracat.