Only 34% of Florida Democrats approve of DNC's stripping it of its delegates

[draft_mario_cuomo]

Hmmm...gee, aren't these exactly the people we need to keep motivated if we are to fight for Florida's 27 electoral votes (the holy states of IA and NH combine for 11).

==A new InsiderAdvantage/Majority Opinion statewide survey of 502 registered Democratic voters in Florida (conducted 8/27) finds:

* 56% are aware of "the Democratic national committees current position that no delegates to the national convention will be awarded to the winner of the January 29th Florida Democratic presidential primary;" 36% are not.

* 53% disapprove of "the Democratic national committees position of not awarding delegates to presidential candidates based on the results of the January 29th Florida Democratic presidential primary;" 34% approve==

http://www.pollster.com/blogs/poll_insideradvantage_florida.php

[madfloridian]

1. Propaganda works. It works well.

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[draft_mario_cuomo]

2. Regardless of why they feel this way they do and we need to recognize it

We can't cede 27 electoral votes in the biggest swing state because of the arrogance of IA and NH.

[madfloridian]

12. SO...now you blame IA and NH for Florida's arrogance.

Left and right meeting if going too far either way.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

13. I disagree with what FL did but FL voters deserve a vote

They should not be sacrificed on the altar of the royal status of IA and NH. If there were a way to turn back time and prevent this in the first place that would be great. Unfortunately, we have to deal with what has happened and it is a mistake to risk 27 electoral votes because of the longtime arrogance of IA and NH to demand they select the candidates for the rest of the nation.

[IndianaGreen]

3. A lot of Democrats, in and out of Florida, don't care for Iowa and New Hampshire always being first

I don't see how the DNC could win a lawsuit on this. Legislatures are the ones that set the primary dates, not the DNC. Florida is a sovereign state and as such it can decide to have primaries or not, and if so, when.

[draft_mario_cuomo]

6. If only 1/3 of Florida Dems agree with this what kind of turnout and volunteer effort can we expect?

Why should people work their tails off for a party that stripped them of their right to vote in the primaries? This could cost us Florida, which in turn may cost us the election. Is the royal status of NH and IA worth 4 more years of Republican rule?

I agree. I am from NJ and I am annoyed that no prez candidate ever comes here while they are in NH and IA 23/7, with a few stops in SC and NV sprinkled in.

[madfloridian]

4. The duo....the centrists and the Greens.

together again.

[Kagemusha]

5. So let's fire Dean, purge the DNC and... what then?

What's the plan after that?

[IndianaGreen]

7. Don't punish the voters, which is what the DNC is doing.

Why don't you just ban all the superdelegates? They are the office holders and party officials that get an automatic seat at the convention, but keep the delegates elected by the voters in the primary.

The DNC is disenfranchising the Democratic rank-and-file!

[draft_mario_cuomo]

8. Great solution IG! nt

[Kagemusha]

9. What about the labor superdelegates?

Them too?

[madfloridian]

10. The superdelegates are the ones threatening Dean and the DNC

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[madfloridian]

11. If you go far to the left and far to the right....you meet.

That has happened now at DU.

It is an unbeatable partnership.

[IndianaGreen]

14. Florida Dems Fire Back at DNC

MEDIA RELEASE
Tuesday, Aug. 28, 2007

Contact:
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David Goldenberg ( Hastings )
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Florida lawmakers unanimous in vow to support voters' rights

WASHINGTON, D.C. - Members of Florida's Democratic congressional delegation unanimously declared Tuesday they'll support voters' rights to have their ballots count in a Jan. 29 statewide presidential primary, in lieu of a later caucus of candidates' supporters as just ordered by the Democratic National Committee (DNC).

"We cannot go along with anything but the state-run primary set for next January," the 10 Democratic lawmakers led by U.S. Sen. Bill Nelson said in a joint statement issued today. "We strongly encourage all Democrats to vote for their preferred nominee in that primary, regardless of whatever penalties the DNC might enact."

"The vote is going to matter - period," the lawmakers said.

Florida's Democratic congressional delegation is comprised of Nelson and U.S. Reps. Allen Boyd Jr. of Monticello, Corrine Brown of Jacksonville, Kathy Castor of Tampa, Alcee Hastings of Miramar, Ron Klein of Boca Raton, Tim Mahoney of Palm Beach Gardens, Kendrick Meek of Miami, Debbie Wasserman Schultz of Weston and Robert Wexler of Boca Raton.

Their statement comes after holding a conference call yesterday, and three days after the DNC under Chairman Howard Dean voted to strip the state of its delegates to the national convention if the Florida Democratic Party refuses to hold a caucus on Feb. 5 or later, instead of a binding primary on Jan. 29. The primary date is set by a new law passed recently by the Florida Legislature and signed by Gov. Charlie Crist.

The congressional delegation members also said they intend to mount a legal challenge aimed at blocking the DNC from banning Florida delegates - if it comes to that. Nelson, who has spoken with DNC leadership about the Saturday decision, said today, "I hope we're going to be able to work this out. The easy solution is for a few other states to move their primaries up before Florida's."

The DNC still has four weeks in which it can change its directive regarding Florida's delegates, but has yet to signal any intention of doing so. "We hope that over the next few weeks, the DNC and its chairman will show a willingness to work with us to find an equitable solution that is acceptable to all," the lawmakers said.

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/08/28/336259.aspx

[Mojorabbit]

15. I am one of the 34 percent

I am enraged that the state dems voted with the repubs to jump the primary up and put us into this position. This is the most important election of my lifetime and this is the last thing we need now, this juvenile squabbling. Change the dates for the election after this one for pete's sake. The entire focus should be on winning. Taking a chance on loosing the delegates this election is pure stupidity when I think of what is at stake for this country.